Grappler Baki: Making a Tier 7 verse Tier 7

[NikHelton]

I meant Shmeaty's version.

Shmeat offers a higher magnitude. It doesn't make much difference who does calc. We take the finished magnitude from the power chart

 

[NikHelton]

New version? If the mag 6 remains then the currect calc is used which is from clover dragon and that's what's used currently. No idea why a new calc was even brought up but it was by Nik in case we went for a lower magnitude to which I agree.

Yes, new calculation literally doesn't make sense, since the result will be the same

 

[NikHelton]

did they?

if they did, i conced the argument, yujiro is 7C

By the way, it would be a cool plot move. Send Yujiro to Africa to attack him with a nuclear bomb

 

[Passersby]

By the way, it would be a cool plot move. Send Yujiro to Africa to attack him with a nuclear bomb

the mfs seem smart enough to know that keeping him is far more beneficial than killing him considering he is a superhuman


also they're way too sacred of the guy, so that would be a character assassination if not done properly

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

So far Armor has no problem with the feat for tier 7-C, Therefir agrees only with mag 5, Andy agrees with tier 7-C, Maverick agress with tier 7-C, Qwased said possible to the tier 7-C, By Asura feels fine for anything between mag 5-6.

Furthermore of the cgm Dmua, Armor and Clover agree with the 7-C the calc made by clover. Therefir prefers mag 5 earthquake.

These are all the noteworthy votes.

 

[Twellas]

it makes all the statements look silly since they have no idea what they're talking about when the compare the 2

So the presidents of the united states don't know how powerful weapons are?

also this

Yes, they do know what they are talking about, they are the presidents of the united states, they OBVIOUSLY know how strong their weapons are.
Obama literally watches Yujiro's fights every time, so he's also knowledgeable about what he's capable of. Most of the statements are also given by the narrator, who doesn't have biases or incomplete knowledge. The narrator himself straight up says that there's "truth" to the notion of Yujiro being "far above all of the new weapons, missiles and tanks". So yeah, the statements are reliable

They don't need to drop a nuke on him to test it, what are they, ******* toddlers or something? The human mind is capable of drawing comparisons between things without needing visual evidence like that. Do you need to see an heavyweight boxer fight a flyweight in order to know that the former is stronger?

Fear? Do you think that throughout all of Yujiro's life, all the presidencies, nobody ever stopped to think "ok, is what we are doing here rational or is it just unwarranted fear"? You think the whole of the planet is just fine with the idea of their superpowers having to pledge allegiance to a guy just because "the president thinks he looks scary"? We know for a fact the US actively tries to kill Yujiro in all sorts of way, they even tried to give him AIDS and cancer ffs, to suggest the idea that the US is just "winging it" in regards to Yujiro's strength is ridiculous.

"even if a the statements provided aren't contradicted that doesn't automatically mean the information is right" no yeah, it really does lol.

that just supports the the information is based on pure fear interpretation

This is a statement from the literally disembodied narrator of the manga.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

So the presidents of the united states don't know how powerful weapons are?

Yes, they do know what they are talking about, they are the presidents of the united states, they OBVIOUSLY know how strong their weapons are.
Obama literally watches Yujiro's fights every time, so he's also knowledgeable about what he's capable of. Most of the statements are also given by the narrator, who doesn't have biases or incomplete knowledge. The narrator himself straight up says that there's "truth" to the notion of Yujiro being "far above all of the new weapons, missiles and tanks". So yeah, the statements are reliable

They don't need to drop a nuke on him to test it, what are they, ***** toddlers or something? The human mind is capable of drawing comparisons between things without needing visual evidence like that. Do you need to see an heavyweight boxer fight a flyweight in order to know that the former is stronger?

Fear? Do you think that throughout all of Yujiro's life, all the presidencies, nobody ever stopped to think "ok, is what we are doing here rational or is it just unwarranted fear"? You think the whole of the planet is just fine with the idea of their superpowers having to pledge allegiance to a guy just because "the president thinks he looks scary"? We know for a fact the US actively tries to kill Yujiro in all sorts of way, they even tried to give him AIDS and cancer ffs, to suggest the idea that the US is just "winging it" in regards to Yujiro's strength is ridiculous.

"even if a the statements provided aren't contradicted that doesn't automatically mean the information is right" no yeah, it really does lol.

This is a statement from the literally disembodied narrator of the manga.

I am tired of repeating myself. All for two people who just won't accept stuff.

 

[Passersby]

So the presidents of the united states don't know how powerful weapons are?

can you visualize how powerful 500 kilotons of tnt are?

figured as much, also, you addressed none of the questions

for example: In the manga, political leaders state that yujiro is as strong as nuclear war heads

sure he said that, but does he know what he is talking about? did he ever drop a nuke on yujiro and he managed to simply tank it? is the information provided accurate and not simply a byproduct of his fear? Does he know everything about yujiro's abilities and strenght? there are other questions to be answered as well.

Yes, they do know what they are talking about

evidence?

, they are the presidents of the united states, they OBVIOUSLY know how strong their weapons are.

already addressed

Obama literally watches Yujiro's fights every time, so he's also knowledgeable about what he's capable of.

fear is a thing, there is the fact that they never even tried it supporting me here so everything they state is pure specualtions

Most of the statements are also given by the narrator, who doesn't have biases or incomplete knowledge.

already addressed

even if a the statements provided aren't contradicted that doesnt automatically mean the information is right. statements can be wrong or right no matter if its contradicted or not,all the characters do within the fictional setting is provide the information/statements, its up for the us to see if what is being said is true or possible based on the feats seen in the story and then analyze the info provided based on the context.

there are also Guidebook statements, and people generally just take them at face value


however, guidebooks are just supplemental information that expands upon feats from a fictional work, If it's information is contradicted by the fictional work it's describing or isn't backed up by any evidence then its most likely false.

for example, if a guidebook describes a character's attack potency to be 5B but he consistenly shows 7C feats, then the guidebook statement will be ignored


This is why statements that are describing physical phenomenons like AP, speed etc have to be analyzed on a step by step basis. The feats are what shows the physical changes that occur and the statements are just conclusions that can be true or false, so they should not be taken as evidence for feats

that says nothing when there no feats to support it, that's just the equivalent of a narrator stating someone can destroy the world,or any character for that matter, which is worthless

The narrator himself straight up says that there's "truth" to the notion of Yujiro being "far above all of the new weapons, missiles and tanks". So yeah, the statements are reliable

those are quotation marks, you sure the narrator is the one saying that?

even then, already addressed

They don't need to drop a nuke on him to test it,

yes they do

what are they, ***** toddlers or something?

political leaders who suck up to a guy with tier 8 at best feats calling him above nuclear missiles

even then, the statement "above nuclear misslies" itself has a lot of interpreations, does that mean that even a nuke can't kill him?

sure, but how? will he run away with supersonic+ speed and survive?
will he tank a small fration of the explosion yeild and call it a day?

will just take it head on?

nothing can be said, since they never tried, and not a single nuclear missile was shown to be dropped on him in the entire series

you use whatever interpreation you would like

The human mind is capable of drawing comparisons between things without needing visual evidence like that. Do you need to see an heavyweight boxer fight a flyweight in order to know that the former is stronger?

fear inducement makes your argument pretty baseless considering everything you brought up simply gives him that

if they're so afraid of him they think even nukes won't work(as you said, they literally start with this assumption) when they don't even know his full strenght that's all there is to it

Fear? Do you think that throughout all of Yujiro's life, all the presidencies, nobody ever stopped to think "ok, is what we are doing here rational or is it just unwarranted fear"?

pretty potent fear inducement ig, since again they never even tried

You think the whole of the planet is just fine with the idea of their superpowers having to pledge allegiance to a guy just because "the president thinks he looks scary"?

yes, unless of course you bring evidence otherwise

We know for a fact the US actively tries to kill Yujiro in all sorts of way, they even tried to give him AIDS and cancer ffs

but never nukes?

if they think nukes and their potent radiation won't kill him but aids and cancer will then they're ******* idiots

, to suggest the idea that the US is just "winging it" in regards to Yujiro's strength is ridiculous.

the reason why is?

"even if a the statements provided aren't contradicted that doesn't automatically mean the information is right" no yeah, it really does lol.

i can fly but i will never choose to do so

prove that wrong then, it's never going to be contradicted so it's right based on your logic

 

[NikHelton]

So the presidents of the united states don't know how powerful weapons are?

Yes, they do know what they are talking about, they are the presidents of the united states, they OBVIOUSLY know how strong their weapons are.
Obama literally watches Yujiro's fights every time, so he's also knowledgeable about what he's capable of. Most of the statements are also given by the narrator, who doesn't have biases or incomplete knowledge. The narrator himself straight up says that there's "truth" to the notion of Yujiro being "far above all of the new weapons, missiles and tanks". So yeah, the statements are reliable

Yujiro has literally never shown anything that could be stronger than a nuclear weapon, if you exclude the feat of stopping an earthquake, which has already been rejected several times

They don't need to drop a nuke on him to test it, what are they, ***** toddlers or something? The human mind is capable of drawing comparisons between things without needing visual evidence like that. Do you need to see an heavyweight boxer fight a flyweight in order to know that the former is stronger?

Yujiro has an aura of fear. They simply do not understand what they are talking about. In place of Yujiro, there may be some Luther Strode with the same feats or an extra from Tokyo Ghoul, who is not taken by explosions and bullets. Obama might as well say that they are stronger than nuclear weapons.

Yujiro didn't demonstrate anything to convince them. Only scared on an instinctive level

Fear? Do you think that throughout all of Yujiro's life, all the presidencies, nobody ever stopped to think "ok, is what we are doing here rational or is it just unwarranted fear"? You think the whole of the planet is just fine with the idea of their superpowers having to pledge allegiance to a guy just because "the president thinks he looks scary"? We know for a fact the US actively tries to kill Yujiro in all sorts of way, they even tried to give him AIDS and cancer ffs, to suggest the idea that the US is just "winging it" in regards to Yujiro's strength is ridiculous.

Don't compare AIDS and cancer with nuclear weapons, please. Your AIDS couldn't kill Jim Carrey when he was playing a gay con artist. Cancer couldn't kill Walter White. Are they also stronger than nuclear weapons? This is a very stupid argument. Even if you assume that they used conventional artillery, other than that, the difference between a weapon with a nuclear projectile and without is colossal.


Yes, presidents are idiots and didn't think of it. Itagaki is literally an offended Japanese who tries to humiliate the US government and portray them as idiots when given the opportunity. And don't call it satire. Strong personalities who are responsible for the security of an entire country and are involved in resolving conflicts that could lead to a nuclear war suddenly start behaving like idiots and talking complete nonsense next to Yujiro.
They're just afraid of him because of the aura. Hell, they literally piss their pants every time they see him.

Do not make them combat analysts. In the manga, these are empty dummies that are exposed to an aura of fear

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Yeah okay you both are just arguing for the sake of it at this point.

Byasura please tag the people who have commented on the first pages like Andy, Dmua and Armor so that we can end this.

 

[Twellas]

can you visualize how powerful 500 kilotons of tnt are?

yes, very easily, we quite literally have video evidence of what nukes look like and what even hypothetical non-existent nukes (IE, hydrogen bombs for instance) would be able to do.

ven if a the statements provided aren't contradicted that doesnt automatically mean the information is right

and I already told you, this is a dumb ass statement lmao. Something not having a possible contradiction is basically the definition of being true, you're just looking for a way to handwave away statements you can't contradict by playing the incredulity card

that says nothing when there no feats to support it, that's just the equivalent of a narrator stating someone can destroy the world,or any character for that matter, which is worthless

the earthquake feat. And you don't require a physical feat to support a statement, ask that to Dragonball lmao

those are quotation marks, you sure the narrator is the one saying that?

yes, and no, you haven't addressed it as I've said

yes they do

no they don't. See? I can play this game too!

political leaders who suck up to a guy with tier 8 at best feats calling him above nuclear missiles

you are so ******* biased holy shit, what happened? Did you lose a debate against Yujiro? jesus this borders on being comedic lmao

if they're so afraid of him they think even nukes won't work(as you said, they literally start with this assumption) when they don't even know his full strenght that's all there is to it

narrator statements, statements confirmed by narrator. moot.

that says nothing when there no feats to support it, that's just the equivalent of a narrator stating someone can destroy the world,or any character for that matter, which is worthless

no it's ******* not, wtf? are you serious????

pretty potent fear inducement ig, since again they never even tried

narrator statements, statements confirmed by narrator. moot.

i can fly but i will never choose to do so

prove that wrong then, it's never going to be contradicted so it's right based on your logic

with this you pretty much showed you have no idea what you're talking about and are to be ignored

Yujiro has literally never shown anything that could be stronger than a nuclear weapon, if you exclude the feat of stopping an earthquake, which has already been rejected several times

"if you ignore the feat he has that's comparable to nukes, he doesn't have a feat that's comparable to nukes" do you even read what you're writing before posting it?

Yujiro has an aura of fear. They simply do not understand what they are talking about. In place of Yujiro, there may be some Luther Strode with the same feats or an extra from Tokyo Ghoul, who is not taken by explosions and bullets. Obama might as well say that they are stronger than nuclear weapons.

Yujiro didn't demonstrate anything to convince them. Only scared on an instinctive level

narrator statements, and the statements confirmed by narrator. moot.

Don't compare AIDS and cancer with nuclear weapons, please. Your AIDS couldn't kill Jim Carrey when he was playing a gay con artist. Cancer couldn't kill Walter White. Are they also stronger than nuclear weapons? This is a very stupid argument. Even if you assume that they used conventional artillery, other than that, the difference between a weapon with a nuclear projectile and without is colossal.

i never ******* compared nukes to ******* aids wtf? I just used those examples to show that it's not like the US saw Yujiro stroll in and took his word for it, they actually TRIED to kill him multiple times

Yes, presidents are idiots and didn't think of it. Itagaki is literally an offended Japanese who tries to humiliate the US government and portray them as idiots when given the opportunity. And don't call it satire. Strong personalities who are responsible for the security of an entire country and are involved in resolving conflicts that could lead to a nuclear war suddenly start behaving like idiots and talking complete nonsense next to Yujiro.
They're just afraid of him because of the aura. Hell, they literally piss their pants every time they see him.

you, young man are both illiterate and biased

 

[NikHelton]

@ByAsura, can you call Damage35 and Therefir too, please?

 

[Passersby]

Yeah okay you both are just arguing for the sake of it at this point.

some of my points were bad, but arguing is fun, so why not?

 

[NikHelton]

you, young man are both illiterate and biased

Explain my illiteracy, please. I literally use a translator to communicate with you.

What kind of bias are we talking about? Don't you see that Itagaki obviously makes the governments of the countries look like clowns?
Everyone behaves caricatured and pretentious, then abruptly urinate in their pants, swear an oath of allegiance, or, as in the case of Hilary, almost flow from the fact that they were threatened with rape.
Please do not ignore such obvious points

 

[Majinere566]

you, young man are both illiterate and biased

There's no need for this part.

 

[Passersby]

yes, very easily, we quite literally have video evidence of what nukes look like and what even hypothetical non-existent nukes (IE, hydrogen bombs for instance) would be able to do.

ignore that first one about visulization,

and yet again, you ignored all the questions my friend

and I already told you, this is a dumb ass statement lmao. Something not having a possible contradiction is basically the definition of being true, you're just looking for a way to handwave away statements you can't contradict by playing the incredulity card

i can fly but i will never choose to do so

the earthquake feat. And you don't require a physical feat to support a statement, ask that to Dragonball lmao

the outlier?

and you do in fact need a physical feat to support it, when the verse is full of tier 8 and tier 9 feats, those statements will be ignored

yes, and no, you haven't addressed it as I've said

...yes and no?
what is that supposed to mean?

the statements shwon were said by the narrator and he was simply quoting someone else's words?

and yes, it has been addressed, those statements don't really mean much and i've explained why above multiple times

no they don't. See? I can play this game too!

well, i suppose i should have said the burden of proof is on you to prove it ig, and they have to drop it on him to test it


a somewhat competent person will test his ego and state if you're so strong, try taking a nuke head on and just confirm it

too bad none of the politicians in baki are competent

you are so ***** biased holy shit, what happened? Did you lose a debate against Yujiro? jesus this borders on being comedic lmao

either way, moot point i guess, this says nothing

narrator statements, statements confirmed by narrator. moot.

no feats again

already addressed this

there are also Guidebook statements, and people generally just take them at face value


however, guidebooks are just supplemental information that expands upon feats from a fictional work, If it's information is contradicted by the fictional work it's describing or isn't backed up by any evidence then its most likely false.

for example, if a guidebook describes a character's attack potency to be 5B but he consistenly shows 7C feats, then the guidebook statement will be ignored


This is why statements that are describing physical phenomenons like AP, speed etc have to be analyzed on a step by step basis. The feats are what shows the physical changes that occur and the statements are just conclusions that can be true or false, so they should not be taken as evidence for feats

it doesn't matter how many times the narrator or any character for that matter says it as long as there are no feats to prove it and no evidence to support it, those will simply be ignored

no it's ***** not, wtf? are you serious????

...care to elaborate?

narrator statements, statements confirmed by narrator. moot.

already addressed

with this you pretty much showed you have no idea what you're talking about and are to be ignored

ad hominem fallacy ig

"if you ignore the feat he has that's comparable to nukes, he doesn't have a feat that's comparable to nukes" do you even read what you're writing before posting it?

a single one, then every other feat, even ones when he uses his full strenght with veins bulging out of his arms...is 8C

talking about inconsistent series, one 7C feat and that's it, that's weak as hell consiering not a single statement has shown to be reliable nor even from a trusted source

narrator statements, and the statements confirmed by narrator. moot.

already addressed

i never ***** compared nukes to ***** aids wtf? I just used those examples to show that it's not like the US saw Yujiro stroll in and took his word for it, they actually TRIED to kill him multiple times

and they're idiots if they think cancer can kill him but the radiation from nuclear bombs somehow can't, that argument really isn't helping you

you, young man are both illiterate and biased

ad hominem fallacy


i'd reccomend you take a break to calm down

 

[Passersby]

I literally use a translator to communicate with you.

wait, you use a translator?

what does that mean?

someone is translating this for you?

 

[NikHelton]

wait, you use a translator?

what does that mean?

someone is translating this for you?

Yeah, Google and Yandex translate, bro)

 

[Lonkitt]

Is there any update anyone can give me before I make a statement since this is 7 pages?

 

[Lonkitt]

Yeah, Google and Yandex translate, bro)

Use DeepL instead. Its far more reliable

 

[Passersby]

Yeah, Google and Yandex translate, bro)

your english seemed way too good to be MTLd,

that's nice

 

[Passersby]

Is there any update anyone can give me before I make a statement since this is 7 pages?

we're arguing about the validity of the statements and if this 7C feat is an outlier since every other feat is consistently tier 9 or 8 at best, since this will scale to literally everyone in the verse

..and that's it i guess

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Is there any update anyone can give me before I make a statement since this is 7 pages?

Basically the god tier of the verse stopped an earthquake. In a previous thread the feat was considered invalid and this thread aims to bring it back due to no reasons for shooting the feat down. Now it's more close to if the feat happened then how strong was the earthquake? The likely outcomes are mag 5, 5.5 and 6. Most people agree with 6. This is basically the feat:

And here is the feat in manga form:

Do you consider it legit and if yes agree with a magnitude 6 or lower?

 

[Passersby]

due to no reasons for shooting the feat down

it's physically impossible to perform, that was the reason it got dropped

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

it's physically impossible to perform, that was the reason it got dropped

Well various cgm one of which created the thread pretty much gave the ok because it can happen in Baki verse and that's the one we care about.

 

[Passersby]

Well various cgm one of which created the thread pretty much gave the ok because it can happen in Baki verse and that's the one we care about.

they stated it doesn't matter since we can just ignore the physical impossibility of the feat and use it, that's the only counterargument they used

might as well ignore all physical impossibility and state this earthquake has a magnitude of 1, since yk, even if it's physically impossible because of the showings of the earthquake baki makes no sens so it doesn't matter ig

 

[Passersby]

but anyways, let's just see what the general opinion of others for now

 

[NikHelton]

Use DeepL instead. Its far more reliable

Hmm, I'll try.
Thank you

 

[Lonkitt]

Seems like its in the 5 range. 6 seems too high

 

[NikHelton]

Is there any update anyone can give me before I make a statement since this is 7 pages?

In the last branch of the downgrade, the feat of stopping the earthquake was refuted by me, Therefir and Shmeat, since it is an outlier and we have no other 7 tier feats in the verse since that moment. The outlier is both the feat itself and its implementation, because there is no method of stopping an earthquake with a blow.
However, the members of the calculation group did not mind calculating it as an earthquake. Me and Therefir goes with a magnitude of 5 because there is no earthquake damage and it is more consistent for the verse. Other members of the calculation group go with a magnitude of 6.
The issue of the legality of statements that Yujiro is stronger than nuclear weapons is also being considered. The author of this statement immediately said that they couldn't verify it anyway. Considering that Yujiro has an aura of fear and people literally panic from his presence, I am inclined to believe that the statements were made under the pressure of fear and have no basis, given that Yujiro has never demonstrated Tier 7 skills, except for the earthquake feat, which is tier 7, only if you count it like the force of an earthquake, which is already a huge assumption.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Seems like its in the 5 range. 6 seems too high

Magnitude 5	NikHelton, Passerby,@ ByAsura, @HammerStrikes219
Magnitude 5.5	Shmeatywerbenmanjenson, SheevShezarrine, @ByAsura, @HammerStrikes219
Magnitude 6	CloverDragon03, Serlock_Holmes, SheevShezarrine, Shmeatywerbenmanjenson, Maverick_Zero_X, ByAsura

These are the current votes. The range 6 quake comes from the fact that Japan is one of the countries with the most intense seismic activity so anything that is considered big there would be at least in the 6 range.

 

[Lonkitt]

Magnitude 5	NikHelton, Passerby,@ ByAsura, @HammerStrikes219
Magnitude 5.5	Shmeatywerbenmanjenson, SheevShezarrine, @ByAsura, @HammerStrikes219
Magnitude 6	CloverDragon03, Serlock_Holmes, SheevShezarrine, Shmeatywerbenmanjenson, Maverick_Zero_X, ByAsura

These are the current votes. The range 6 quake comes from the fact that Japan is one of the countries with the most intense seismic activity so anything that is considered big there would be at least in the 6 range.

Ah, alright. I didn't consider that, but it does change my stance

Magnitude 6 is fine then

 

[NikHelton]

Magnitude 5	NikHelton, Passerby,@ ByAsura, @HammerStrikes219
Magnitude 5.5	Shmeatywerbenmanjenson, SheevShezarrine, @ByAsura, @HammerStrikes219
Magnitude 6	CloverDragon03, Serlock_Holmes, SheevShezarrine, Shmeatywerbenmanjenson, Maverick_Zero_X, ByAsura

These are the current votes. The range 6 quake comes from the fact that Japan is one of the countries with the most intense seismic activity so anything that is considered big there would be at least in the 6 range.

Write down Therefir in support of magnitude 5, please

 

[NikHelton]

Ah, alright. I didn't consider that, but it does change my stance

Magnitude 6 is fine then

The earthquake still left no damage. Visually, it looks like a magnitude 5 and all that tells us that this is a "big" earthquake are the words of one character

 

[NikHelton]

In the presence of earthquake damage, it would be possible to safely accept magnitude 6. However, due to their absence, magnitude 5 is the most confident we can give

 

[Lonkitt]

The earthquake still left no damage. Visually, it looks like a magnitude 5 and all that tells us that this is a "big" earthquake are the words of one character

TBF the earthquake was stopped pretty quickly. Its not like the surroundings would've had to instantly crumble for it to be magnitude 6

I've made my decision regarding the earthquake

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

TBF the earthquake was stopped pretty quickly. Its not like the surroundings would've had to instantly crumble for it to be magnitude 6

I've made my decision regarding the earthquake

Would you like me to link a previous postes post that went more in depth regarding that? Also thanks for you opinion. Here is the post I was talking about that goes more in depth.

Also one more thing to hammer home at least a 5 magnitude

All the characters are outside in this instance and are nowhere near any buildings

In most of the scales you can find online most point out that Magnitude 5 and above is the point where the shaking becomes noticeable OUTSIDE and not just notable in solid structures like buildings

Here are some examples

The Severity of an Earthquake

pubs.usgs.gov

Richter scale - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Earthquake Measurements: Magnitude vs Intensity

How do earthquakes get measured, and what's the difference between earthquake magnitude and intensity? Visit CEA to find out!

www.earthquakeauthority.com

Richter Magnitude

www.ux1.eiu.edu

Everyone behind Baki as well as Baki himself were struggling just to stand upright due to the strength of the earthquakes shaking
A magnitude less than 5 would not cause this kind of struggle as 5 and below are not even usually felt by everyone

Also note that these sources clarify that 5 magnitude is usually only "Moderate" shaking which is just more evidence pointing towards Mag 6 for this particular quake

I'm personally fine with anything 5 and above however I personally feel that 6 is the way to go

Magnitude 5	NikHelton, Passerby,@ ByAsura (voting rights), @HammerStrikes219, Therefir(voting rights),(cgm)
Magnitude 5.5	Shmeatywerbenmanjenson, SheevShezarrine, @ByAsura (voting rights), @HammerStrikes219
Magnitude 6	CloverDragon03(cgm), Serlock_Holmes, SheevShezarrine, Shmeatywerbenmanjenson, Maverick_Zero_X (voting rights), ByAsura (voting rights), Lonkitt (voting rights), TheRustyOne(cgm)

 

[NikHelton]

Would you like me to link a previous postes post that went more in depth regarding that? Also thanks for you opinion.

Magnitude 5	NikHelton, Passerby,@ ByAsura, @HammerStrikes219
Magnitude 5.5	Shmeatywerbenmanjenson, SheevShezarrine, @ByAsura, @HammerStrikes219, Therefir
Magnitude 6	CloverDragon03, Serlock_Holmes, SheevShezarrine, Shmeatywerbenmanjenson, Maverick_Zero_X, ByAsura, Lonkitt

Therefir for 5.0

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Therefir for 5.0

Okay fixed it and noted which votes count.

 

[CloverDragon03]

if that punch was 7C it should went trough and evaporated the rocks it was touching, that what should have happened

Attack Potency =/= Destructive Capacity