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Most of the jojo supporters are mods, pretty sure one would have pointed out by now if 5D was wrong
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(GRACE) Peak Hax in DBH vs Peak Hax in JJBA
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Saying I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.
Not when what is being mentioned is literally objective events happening in a written series, and literally can't be documented subjectively. You saying that wiki's aren't fully accurate 100% of the time is also an irrelevant fact. The same thing applies to Vs Battles Wiki. At the end of the day, there was nothing I could find on Vs Battles Wiki, so I looked on another wiki, now you're just arguing continuously for no reason.
Anyways, I'm not arguing about this with you, because it's just ridiculous at this point. You're basically just saying "well you're wrong" repeatedly over literally irrelevant things.
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Accepted by who? Where is the CRT that talked about it? Like it or not, No CRT=not valid for argument, this is how it works here.
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Where 5-D was accepted ?!??????? Which CRT?! Which stuffs?!?
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Accepted from who? Any Jojo supporter, and someone who's not hasn't the right to say otherwise because is not their verse.
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Thats my question too
Accepted by who?!?
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That first link is just your thread about making a profile for Beyond, which hasn't been accepted, and is filled with a lot of vague claims or arguments, the second is a random versus thread that I saw a long time ago and don't want to read through again, and is irrelevant to this discussion. None of that is evidence for Kars understanding Beyond.
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So you're basically saying "Jojo is 5D because I said so and you have no right to doubt it since you're not a supporter" and you expect me to believe you?
Lol
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Wdym by "someone who's not hasn't right to say otherwise because its not their verse"
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Lol I think his argument is just "Well you're not the author and I think it's true so you have no position to claim it's wrong".
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He means that we have no right to doubt it since we are not the supporter of the verse.
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We do so with lots of abilities which are treated as Higher-D/Passive despite the profiles doesen't say so and now with Jojo we do such because why not? I see some double-standards here ngl.
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Strym. Literally one of the most basic, and important rules of Vs. Battles Wiki is that the only applicable things in versus battle threads are things actually on the wiki. Even if you're actually right, it is irrelevant to this specific thread, as you can only use what is put onto the profiles. Annoying Dog used to have Type 5 acausality, but it was still used even when its removal was planned, until it actually got removed.
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Lmao if that is the case
Then he has no Position to claim its right as well if I have no Position to claim its wrong
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Anyways, unless actual evidence that Kars can just understand and overcome Mechikabura under any circumstance arises, this thread should probably be closed as a stomp, as Kars would have no other wincons. I already covered why D4C is irrelevant, and I'm finding nothing about Kars actually understanding Beyond.
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Except they actually have the CRT that has been accepted. That's the difference between them and 5D Jojo.
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To make myself clear, the current arguments being discussed are irrelevant. This thread is about Mechikabura Vs. Novel Kars, and all we're doing is severely derailing the thread. Can we get back on track then close this once it is resolved? The rest of this can be handled in a separate thread.
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Tier 8 Umineko characters have 1-A+ hax despite is not stated in the profiles for example, so what you mean
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Didnt they have accepted CRT?!
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Can you write in a calmer way please?
Anyway, I don't recall such, and Beyond was always potrayed as 5D. You don't agree? Make a CRT, because as for now, it is 5D, and is not that some randoms can null it because they don't want to lol.
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How hard is it to understand?
If a stat or ability is on a character's profile, that means they have it, whether evidence is being shown on their profile or not. It can be removed later if a CRT is done, but until then, that's all there is to it. That's how Versus Threads work. It's literally in the rules. If you don't like that, take your opinion about it somewhere else. It doesn't change the rules of Versus Threads. If you want to argue this debate with what you think about JoJo character's, you would have to do that off-site. These are not biased double-standards to make JoJo character's weaker. This literally applies to any verse used in a Versus Thread.
In this thread, what we can or cannot use for debate are whatever is on either character's profile, period.
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Your opinion on Beyond is irrelevant when it doesn't even have a page to begin with. You're the one who needs it to get accepted via CRT, lmao.
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And again, you still have yet to show literally any implications whatsoever of Kars being able to understand Beyond, so this entire argument is pointless. Until you do, Mechikabura stomps Kars.
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So I can say some verse is High 1-A and since you're just some random user you have no right to doubt it.
I can play the same game, but I won't since I respect the system of this wiki.
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There are tons of people who scale from characters who have accepted feats but not a profile tho
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Then those profiles requires some adjustment if the feat was legit accepted in a CRT, simple as that.
Jojo has never, ever has any single CRT that says he verse is 5D.
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You are
I said regular wiki, which is different from one about vs matches, so false comparison
And you argue stuff that you cant support but still choose to do
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I'm not doing this anymore, it's a constant, meaningless back and forth argument of something literally irrelevant to the thread. You're all derailing severely and not even trying to get back to the point. And it's also getting late for me. I'm gonna go to bed now, hopefully this mess is finished when I'm back.
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You derailed it with your doubting on which you got proven wrong as well
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People complaining of a thing which was always used in threads because they don't want a character to be that strong lmao.
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People have the right to question the profile they thought have questionable stats, which this isn't actually the case since it never been accepted in the first place.
Should I remind you about when HA DIO was 2-A for the justification of erasing ONE person. Or the fact his goal has been misinterpreted which resulting his downgrade. Or back when people treated His timestop can stop a character with Infinite speed, when that never actually happened outside of gameplay.
Or when people believe Novel DIO blizting GER when what actually happened was the fact Giorno letting DIO to attack him and made no attempt to fight back.
This is not the first time Jojo profiles have quite questionable stats here.
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Then do a CRT or something, or better, ask to Chariot, since he's the Jojo guy in situations like this one.
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I don't need to make a crt when it never been accepted in the first place. It is YOU, who should make one.
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Woah, what happened here?
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Never accepted and yet always used as an argument in all the threads, hmmmm, explain this
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Because some people keeps forgetting/ignoring about the system here. I will give them the benefit of doubt and says they actually don't know that it never been accepted in a crt.
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One side is using an argument that never been accepted in a crt.
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Well I think I am pretty cool & u are very rude towards us because we are not agreeing with ur opinion
Again if it isnt accepted
U should make a CRT why he is 5D & ask for staff evaluation as well
Why I should make a CRT?! If its not accepted lol
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Talked with Chariot and he said that Kars can copy 4D things regardless, so he can copy Mechi's powers
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