Goku Vs. Dialga

[Bobsican]

As Xenoverse/Heroes is surprisingly high-end 2-B in sheer AP somehow, I think this is worth a try. This plays in the background.

Both at peak, speed equalized, battle takes place in Dialga´s realm.

The Time-Traveling Saiya: 11 (Schnee One, Quantu, FateAlbane, EmperorRorepme, Xtasyamphetamine, Calaca Vs, Rin The Dragon Empress, DragonEmperor23, ChosenOrDeath, Cueio 2020, DMB 1)

"Say Seaweed" in Spanish: 4 (Dragopentling, TheArsenal1212, Triforcepower1, ShadowWarrior1999)

Incon: 0


(Insert cry here)


C´mon!

 

[DMB_1]

So, either Dialga immediately tries to throw everything he can at Goku, or he gets thunder clapped to oblivion.

What does Dialga start with, exactly?

 

[Huesito88]

Why not Arceus

 

[DMB_1]

Because the last (couple of) times, it didn't go well

 

[Bobsican]

Why not Arceus

He haxstomps TBH.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

So what stops a one-shot in Goku's favour. Looks like he has the range to do so.

 

[Bobsican]

His transmutation can help, but the profile doesn´t say any details about it.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

This reminds me when Whis wins against haxxed af characters by just oneshotting them

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Dialga stomps

 

[DMB_1]

That might actually not be the case, because Candy Vegito exists.

How good is it though? does he start with it?

 

[DMB_1]

Dialga stomps

This isn't definitely the case.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

I mean this might be controversial but he might still function whilst transmuted scaling from Vegito. Then he can just summon Shenron and wish himself back to normal? Agreed? Or is this too much.

 

[Seventy96]

Can Goku take interaction with abstract being?

 

[DMB_1]

Dialga's Abstract Existence is nothing to worry about.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

This is at best a stalemate. Even if Goku kills Dialga, time is destroyed with Dialga, and Goku is frozen in time forever.

 

[Bobsican]

He doesn´t really lead with transmutation as far I know, but as he exists in the entirety of time, that means he can see the future, which means he can precog that Goku is about to one shot him, leading into Dialga just leading transmutation to him in lack of better options.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Not really as far I know, but as he exists in the entirety of time, that means he can see the future, which means he can precog that Goku is about to one shot him, leading into Dialga just leading transmutation into him in lack of better options.

He's omnipresent through time?

 

[Seventy96]

Dialga's Abstract Existence is nothing to worry about.

Why? I know, that Goku can hit non-corporeal, but abstract is something different.

 

[Bobsican]

He's omnipresent through time?

"Speed: Infinite in its avatar (Fought Palkia in shattered space-time), Nigh-Omnipresent in its true form (Exists throughout the entirety of time)"

 

[DMB_1]

Why? I know, that Goku can hit non-corporeal, but abstract is something different.

Dialga has only type 3 abstract existence, which is the weakest type.

@Bob i don't know, but through the revisions, Dilaga might be completely Ombnipresent in its own realm, but I don't know.

 

[The_Causality]

Wait, Goku can't live in place without Time? because if yes, if he kill dialga he can be incapacited

Can he IT in an universe where dialga doesn't have influence?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

So how's Goku dealing with temporal omnipresence?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

This is at best a stalemate. Even if Goku kills Dialga, time is destroyed with Dialga, and Goku is frozen in time forever.

Goku resists time stop though.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Dialga isn't abstract in the sense you have to interact with the concept of time to kill him.

 

[DMB_1]

So how's Goku dealing with temporal omnipresence?

The same way Zeno dealed with it by erasing Infinite Zamasu, or the same way Demigra was destroying the Multiverse.

It's not a big deal in this tier.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

If he has type 3 he can be killed and interacted with without having to destroy time.

 

[The_Causality]

Arceus Vs Goku isn't a Good idea

Demigra vs Arceus is

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Anyways Dialga just turns Goku into an old crippled man or takes his atoms apart.

 

[The_Causality]

Anyways Dialga just turns Goku into an old crippled man or takes his atoms apart.

Before or After he get One shot'd?

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

I mean this might be controversial but he might still function whilst transmuted scaling from Vegito. Then he can just summon Shenron and wish himself back to normal? Agreed? Or is this too much.

Someone refute this

 

[The_Causality]

^Impossible.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Anything is possible with the DBs

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Before or After he get One shot'd?

>One-shot.

>Because punching someone who is omnipresent through time is going to work.

Goku would have to bust the multiverse, and how is he gonna do that before Dialga lolhaxes?

 

[FateAlbane]

Wasn't the Dialga/Palkia being Omnipresent thing refuted to only be in their own timelines?

 

[DMB_1]

Yes, it will work, just like characters like Zeno and Demigra did, and the latter wanted to do it with raw AP.

Dilaga's no better than Infinite Zamasu here. You are heavily overestimating "Temporal omnipresence".

 

[DMB_1]

Wasn't the Dialga/Palkia being Omnipresent thing refuted to only be in their own timelines?

You mean their own realms?

 

[FateAlbane]

@DMB1 Yes. I think I heard frequent talk about that lately in one thread or another.

 

[The_Causality]

>One-shot.

>Because punching someone who is omnipresent through time is going to work.

Goku would have to bust the multiverse, and how is he gonna do that before Dialga lolhaxes?

Actually, Dialga need a body to fight, he can be punched and K.O'd via his physical body, we didn't even see dialga use ability in his "omnipresent form"

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

What about Info Analysis? He can see that he's going to get transmuted so he one-shots. Also how does the transmutation work? Is it thought based or blast based?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Zeno and Demigra were doing a multiverse bust.

Which is something that's not in-character for Goku.