Giorno tries to get revenge on his terrible father.

[The_Smashor]

Abandoning him, transforming him into him, killing him, Giorno is sick of this by now.

Rules: Speed equalized if necessary. Both are at their peak (GER and Beyond). Otherwise SBA.



Giorno Giovanna

Giorno Giovanna: 3 (The God Of Procrastinatio, IvoryAS, Sir Ovens)
Dio Brando (JORGE JOESTAR):

Inconclusive: 1 (EmperorDoom25)

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

The Beyond makes it so that Dio wins

Requiem returns that to zero, and kills Dio forever

Giorno.

 

[Genericstickman]

Giorno can't actually kill him due to regen and durability

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Willpower, then.

 

[The_Smashor]

Bump

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Bump.

 

[IvoryAS]

Inconclusive FRA?

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

The only argument so far is for GioGio winning.

 

[IvoryAS]

If DIO has a win con GioGio FRA

 

[Genericstickman]

bump

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

With this spell, I shall resurrect this post! NECROBUMP!

 

[The_Smashor]

Oh hey I posted that onto the wiki. Fun.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

There is a vote to add.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

GioGio dabs on Dio passively for the reasons above.

 

[Genericstickman]

Beyond whips that passive out of existence

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Beyond whips that passive out of existence

Gold Experience Requiem returns that to zero, and it isn't passive.

 

[The_Smashor]

I heard that Beyond is 5D due to being beyond time and space or something like that.

 

[Ogbunabali]

How does Giorno actually win?

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

By giving Dio no will to fight.

 

[Ogbunabali]

Yeah but that's the will of the attack, not the will to fight.

 

[Reploiid]

Dio FRA.

 

[The_Smashor]

There are no reasons above for Dio.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Dio can't attack if he's passively getting nulled.

 

[Ogbunabali]

This is an inconclusive. Dio can't do anything because he's getting reset, unless we assume that the Beyond is going to make him win which is a stretch. And Giorno can't kill him.

 

[Genericstickman]

I mean Beyond won't be effected by GER's hax due to being 5-D and Giorno doesn't resist 5-D Plot/Fate Manipulation

 

[Ogbunabali]

Yeah, except Dio's plot/fate hax doesn't work like that. It took him 100 years of planning with the Passion, Beyond's gift, to become the ultimate lifeform and take over the world, and he still failed.

The Beyond is more like if you really wish for something and strive towards it, you'll be more lucky in succeeding with it.

 

[IvoryAS]

Inconclusive FRA

 

[Genericstickman]

Yeah, except Dio's plot/fate hax doesn't work like that. It took him 100 years of planning with the Passion, Beyond's gift, to become the ultimate lifeform and take over the world, and he still failed.
The Beyond is more like if you really wish for something and strive towards it, you'll be more lucky in succeeding with it.

I thought he lost because he stopped believing in his Beyond rather then it not working


I haven't actually red it so I might be wrong

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Incon FRA

 

[Genericstickman]

Bump

 

[Sir_Ovens]

According to SBA this should be a victory for Giorno. While he can't hard Dio, he already incapacitates him from the start.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

*Hurt.

 

[Maxnumb231]

In the novel, dio beat GER and was not affected by GERs ability.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Novel GER did not have passive willpower manip.

 

[Maxnumb231]

Novel GER did not have passive willpower manip.

Ok and? That doesnt matter because DIO was completely immuned to his Causality manipulation, and the fact he got soeed blitzed by DIO results of that.

 

[The_Smashor]

Novel GER actually does have willpower manip, Dio's just too much of an arrogant arse to care

 

[Genericstickman]

So Dio resists?

 

[The_Smashor]

That was a joke.