Genie (Disney), Jafar (Disney), and Chaos (Disney) Downgrade

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

That seems very low for being the size of a large planet and spinning the Earth on his finger.

That's what I thought

Then again, proportionally a human can't break a rock that can fit inside the palm of their hand

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, but the Genie is more muscular and far stronger than a regular human when at his regular size as well.

 

[Bobsican]

That still wouldn't be that much of a reason to think of a far higher tier just out of what it looks like.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I mean if he spun the world very fast, that's like 5-A right there

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

The earth spins with 5-C levels of KE naturally; and he spins the Earth very fast. So I don't see him being any weaker than 5-A yeah.

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Mitch and Medeus.

 

[Antvasima]

Jason suggested a new calculation in the blog that would give a High 5-A result.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Jason suggested a new calculation in the blog that would give a High 5-A result.

I have added said method to the blog

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. It is very appreciated.

Disney's Aladdin: Genie is big

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@Therefir @Damage3245 @TheRustyOne @Ugarik @Wokistan @Mr._Bambu

Would any of you be willing to evaluate the calculations in the blog linked above and then tell us here please?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Honestly what is it with Cartoon Characters getting these easy high feats and yet most Shonen Anime that are all about fighting hardly reach this level...

 

[Starbrand_Fan]

Honestly what is it with Cartoon Characters getting these easy high feats and yet most Shonen Anime that are all about fighting hardly reach this level...

That’s a damn good question XD

 

[Antvasima]

I previously replied with a too freespoken answer about the overall trend, that I removed quickly to avoid controversy, but generally speaking, Japan and other Asian cultures still tend to try to encourage healthy striving for self-improvement and hard work in their fiction, whereas western literature generally... does not, in a more generally applied sense.

I think that this is likely one of the main reasons why manga is selling much better than western superhero comicbooks nowadays.

The best manga encourage true heroism in a relatable form in terms of the attitude that is required for it, whereas modern western superhero comicbooks... do not, and I should probably leave it at that.

 

[Antvasima]

@DontTalkDT @Executor_N0 @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Mr._Bambu @Therefir @Ugarik @DMUA @Damage3245 @KGiffoni @Wokistan

I would still appreciate if any of you would be willing to evaluate Mitch's blog and Jason's calculation within it.

 

[Bobsican]

I previously replied with a too freespoken answer about the overall trend, that I removed quickly to avoid controversy, but generally speaking, Japan and other Asian cultures still tend to try to encourage healthy striving for self-improvement and hard work in their fiction, whereas western literature generally... does not, in a more generally applied sense.

I think that this is likely one of the main reasons why manga is selling much better than western superhero comicbooks nowadays.

The best manga encourage true heroism in a relatable form in terms of the attitude that is required for it, whereas modern western superhero comicbooks... do not, and I should probably leave it at that.

Ant, this isn't a Marvel/DC CRT, don't worry about controversy, although thanks for keeping certain aspects to yourself to stay safe.

Anyways, it seems that all that's left is to evaluate the calculation then change the tiering accordingly.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. That is correct. Thank you.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I am unable to comment on the blog (and other blogs too) for some reason. I don't know if it's related but I also can't comment on message walls. My profile page says "blocked", but I see nothing in my ban log for the reason I am banned or if I am banned at all. I can edit pages though, so it seems that I am not banned.

 

[Antvasima]

That is not good. You should politely ask Fandom to try to fix the problem for you:

Submit a request – Fandom

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[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Seems fine now, are evaluations still needed?

 

[Antvasima]

It seems like DMUA has already accepted the Dwarf Star level KE result, but you can comment as well if you wish.

Is somebody willing to apply the new statistics to Genie, Jafar, and the other characters that scale from them?

 

[Antvasima]

Bump.

I would still greatly appreciate if somebody who knows how to edit properly would be willing to apply these statistics changes.

 

[Antvasima]

@Bobsican @PlozAlcachaz @GiverOfThePeace @DarkDragonMedeus

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

My hands are tied at the moment, but perhaps I could

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem. Thanks anyway.

 

[Bobsican]

I'm also too busy as well with school right now, sorry.

 

[TheShieldToronto76]

@Bobsican @PlozAlcachaz @GiverOfThePeace @DarkDragonMedeus

Ploz left............

 

[Antvasima]

Right. I forgot. My apologies. That is obviously not good at all.

 

[GiverOfThePeace]

I'm assuming I need to change all their statistics to Dwarf Star and that's it?

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, along with the tier categories, and you need to link to the calculation for Genie as well.

Thanks a lot for helping out.

 

[GiverOfThePeace]

Can you link the following profiles that need to be changed?

 

[Antvasima]

Genie, Jafar, Mirage, and Chaos, I think. Chaos is enormously more powerful though.

Aladdin

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[GiverOfThePeace]

Chaos needs to be unlocked, I edited the other ones.

 

[GiverOfThePeace]

Whoever this is messed with the edits

Genie (Disney)

What would you wish of me? The ever-impressive, the long-contained, the often imitated, but never duplicated...Genie of the Lamp!Genie Genie is a major character and the tritagonist of Disney's 1992 animated feature film, Aladdin. He is a powerful spirit residing in a magical oil lamp hidden...

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Genie (Disney)

What would you wish of me? The ever-impressive, the long-contained, the often imitated, but never duplicated...Genie of the Lamp!Genie Genie is a major character and the tritagonist of Disney's 1992 animated feature film, Aladdin. He is a powerful spirit residing in a magical oil lamp hidden...

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Genie (Disney)

What would you wish of me? The ever-impressive, the long-contained, the often imitated, but never duplicated...Genie of the Lamp!Genie Genie is a major character and the tritagonist of Disney's 1992 animated feature film, Aladdin. He is a powerful spirit residing in a magical oil lamp hidden...

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[Antvasima]

I have unlocked Chaos.

LIFE_OF_KING made a mistake and changed things back afterwards.

Genie performed the High 5-A feat in his freed state. His imprisoned state and Jafar should probably get "At least High 5-A" for being stronger.

Mirage created a magic monolith that Genie could not break, so she should probably be stronger than him. I am not sure if an "At least" rating is warranted though.

Chaos is enormously more powerful than everybody else in the series with the exception of Fate, who was never shown in person. "Likely far higher" seems warranted.

 

[GiverOfThePeace]

So to make sure I got this right
Genie: At least High 5-A | High 5-A
Jafar: At least High 5-A
Mirage: High 5-A
Chaos: At least High 5-A, likely far higher
Is this correct? Don't want to make any mistakes.

 

[GiverOfThePeace]

Made the updates, lemme know if anything looks wrong.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I checked them, and I think they look good.

 

[Antvasima]

That is correct, yes. Thanks a lot for helping out.

 

[GiverOfThePeace]

Alright, then I think this thread is resolved?

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. I will close it. Thanks again.