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General DC Comics Discussion Thread

All of the descriptions were for 1-B realms: Skyland, New Genesis, and the Speed Force Wall all did not extend beyond the edge of the Monitor Sphere, so I don't think they had enough qualifications to be 1-A overall. As for the tweet about being as strong as Perpetua, I think that's more of a neutral comparison.
 
All of the descriptions were for 1-B realms: Skyland, New Genesis, and the Speed Force Wall all did not extend beyond the edge of the Monitor Sphere, so I don't think they had enough qualifications to be 1-A overall. As for the tweet about being as strong as Perpetua, I think that's more of a neutral comparison.
She's said to be capable of ending everything in Creation and the Perpetua thing shouldn't be a "neutral comparison" bc WOG said she should be above Presence as well
 
It's very ambiguous for 1-A. It's a statement that many characters say. shouldn't be 1-A?
She says it herself as well, and also add context on the "It's a statement that many characters say." part
It's obviously an exaggeration, but I'll wait for the DC experts' opinions first.
How is it exaggerated? Its clearly not a hyperbole
 
I realized that we can't use some of the scans due to how time and space are treated. However, there's a relatively good scan to use for a hierarchy though:

Such as this
Also, something cool about time and space being at the edge of the Cosmos(Monitor Sphere, most likely). Cool to use for 5th Dimension and 6th Dimension being above those concepts.

Justice League America Vol.1 #74
Arion, Lord of Atlantis Vol.1 #1
Worlds within worlds, thoughts within thoughts, dreams within dreams, realities within realities.

Is this some statement for R>F ?
 
I wonder if i could use the Time Cube and Hypercube Time from The Return of Bruce Wayne to upgrade Hypertime to 1-A eventually despite the issue with the Divine Continuum since there are direct statements of R>F? I need more inputs from knowledgeable members.

This information may be too outdated to use since it was mentioned once in one story.
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Input would be appreciated. 🙏
 
Half the internet has heard by now, but here's a look at the Sonic x DC crossover. The clashing style is intentional and solely for the cover.

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/849403169800192050/1321065977311400016/DCXSonic1Main.png?ex=676be211&is=676a9091&hm=bb610601bd161027615e548df3e7615caf0b4f19d70a510dae96b663e2823e8e&

Here are the partnerships, which were revealed from the original teasers:
  • Sonic and Flash
  • Shadow and Batman
  • Amy Rose and Wonder Woman
  • Knuckles and Superman
  • Tails and Cyborg
  • Silver and Green Lantern
Here's to hoping this crossover brings out beautiful character interactions between the two series. Here's the synopsis.
  • "The monstrous Darkseid crosses dimensions to invade the world of Sonic the Hedgehog, seeking the ultimate power. Sonic and his friends have faced everything from mad scientists to ancient spirits, but the forces of Apokolips may be too much for them. Thankfully, the full heroic might of the Justice League arrives to back them up!"
Gonna run from March 2025 to some time in 2026.
 
What is/are the creative team/teams for that crossover?
 
What is/are the creative team/teams for that crossover?
The story is being written by Ian Flynn, who has written plenty of Sonic media for Archie, IDW and mainline Sonic games like Sonic Frontiers, the rewrite of Sonic Generations, and Shadow Generations. And the art is being done by a guy named Adam Bryce Thomas, who also has experience doing art for Archie Sonic and the IDW Sonic comics.
 
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Okay. I have heard good things about Ian Flynn. 🙏
Yeah, he's a really damn good writer that has a clear passion for the Sonic series and deeply respects the lore and characters surrounding it.

So if you're worried about him potentially mischaracterizing the DC heroes or something then I wouldn't worry, he cares about the characters he writes and he's more interested in telling good stories than having some sort of message to say.
 
Okay. I have heard good things about Ian Flynn. 🙏
He's very good, his main issue comes from not knowing how to handle OP characters. But he prioritizes characterization, making stories with him at the helm enjoyable. Edit: You Ninja'd me this time, Warrior lol

If I remember right, there will be 5 "main" issues that allow writers and artists from both franchises to come together. I'm truly excited for it, I crave seeing DC artists draw Sonic and vice versa.
 
with the release of Goku vs Superman 3, one of the main researcher has released his research for the ep (which he apparently gone through every single piece of Superman media for)

Mainline Stuff

Other Incarnations
This will probably help cover superman's powers
Bumping this so superman and Supergirl's profiles can get fixed and become better
 
Bumping this so superman and Supergirl's profiles can get fixed and become better
I haven't got the scans (and I forgot to note the issues...) but I went through and added all the abilities to a sandbox here


Aside from some potency things, some hax layers and a couple resistances, most of the key stuff is already on the PC and Rebirth profiles.

I somehow posted this in the Bleach General thread, but meant to post it here o_O
 
I'd prefer more input from more experts before excepting 1-A, but "Reality within realities" could be an indicator. It almost reaches the "Circle is larger with each being more real than the last." But I'm unsure if it quite reaches that aside from the former just being baseline at best and the latter being many layers above that.
 
I'd prefer more input from more experts before excepting 1-A, but "Reality within realities" could be an indicator. It almost reaches the "Circle is larger with each being more real than the last." But I'm unsure if it quite reaches that aside from the former just being baseline at best and the latter being many layers above that.
That's why I wasn't sure for 1-A, but given the statement it's very possible. Perhaps a second piece of evidence might help.
 
Did perpetua created godsphere and heaven? As far as I know she only created the Multiverse . Sphere of gods and other realms are simply higher planes of existence beyond it.

Who created monitor sphere?
 
Did perpetua created godsphere and heaven? As far as I know she only created the Multiverse . Sphere of gods and other realms are simply higher planes of existence beyond it.
Sphere was naturally occurring as the Multiverse was surrounded by raw possibilities.
Who created monitor sphere?
It came as the universal structure after the supposed death of Mar Novu when he splintered across many monitors.
 
Doomsday should get massive upgrade. He pretty much seems unkillable
Depends on how you scale Time Trapper and Superman. I can see 1-A, but the problem with that is how DC treats beings on a dimensional level to actively engage with conceptual beings and realms.

It kinda works for both ways. Superman can interact with higher beings yet how is he? This could both play as a qualifier for him and a disqualifier with whom he interacts.

Time and time again he started to be deathless in that he could not permanently die not even by the concept of death itself. He has faced beings on at least a Low 1-A level and can access things like going to the Source Wall, the 5th and 6th Dimensions. Obviously, if he is 1-A then Doomsday gets upgraded to that level. I think the Sphere of the Gods should be Low 1-A, which at the very least both could get that.
 
Doesn't DC Comics officially have a system of that when higher beings, such as the Monitor brothers, manifest in lower levels of reality, these manifestations are vastly depowered, which explains why regular superheroes can affect them? 🙏
 
Doesn't DC Comics officially have a system of that when higher beings, such as the Monitor brothers, manifest in lower levels of reality, these manifestations are vastly depowered, which explains why regular superheroes can affect them? 🙏
Yes.
 
I don't want to upgrade Superman for now unless they receive from massive power ups in the storylines . Doomsday on the other hand can regenerate from mind and killing time trapper Doomsday would only make evolve by becoming god of all space and time.

We still have to wait for more issues
 
Okay. Then that seems to significantly lessen the validity of upgrading Superman to Low 1-A or above. 🙏
Well. We have seen Superman punching the World Forger in the Sixth Dimension but this was only possible because he went through an unspecified amounts of suns, and Superman fought Mandrakk but the latter was defeated by Neon the Unknown and the Alden Quench managed to hurt him.
 
Also, Mandrakk should have a depowered key in his profile because his powers also decrease on lower planes. He was killed by some of Green Lanterns.
 
Well. We have seen Superman punching the World Forger in the Sixth Dimension but this was only possible because he went through an unspecified amounts of suns, and Superman fought Mandrakk but the latter was defeated by Neon the Unknown and the Alden Quench managed to hurt him.
But it has the opposite issue too; in addition to the numerous sun dips; Superman also needed to be size amped by Mr Mxyzptlk in order to even enter the 6th dimension in the first place. Not to mention, literally anyone becomes that tier if they are buffed by him to enter it.
 
But it has the opposite issue too; in addition to the numerous sun dips; Superman also needed to be size amped by Mr Mxyzptlk in order to even enter the 6th dimension in the first place. Not to mention, literally anyone becomes that tier if they are buffed by him to enter it.
Yes. Though The World Forger altered Mister Mxyzptlk's portal so that the Justice League could enter the Sixth Dimension.
 
Well. We have seen Superman punching the World Forger in the Sixth Dimension but this was only possible because he went through an unspecified amounts of suns
And Superman was also elevated to a much higher level of existence (the Sixth Dimension) at the time.
and Superman fought Mandrakk
Well, he used the Thought Robot armor to fight Mandrakk. He could not remotely do so on his own.
but the latter was defeated by Neon the Unknown and the Alden Quench managed to hurt him.
Yes, that story made even less sense than usual for DC Comics.
 
I agree with your suggestion. 🙏
 
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