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General DC Comics Discussion Thread

@Lloydblitzed I'm not sure if I agree about Darkest Knight as because as explained in these two videos, he wasn't real and made up by Darkseid





OK, I had to stop watching when he said "Vandal Savage projected the Great Darkness out of a Gold Lantern Ring"

That's....blatantly out of context.

It's not THE Great Darkness/GEB, that was sealed away, etc that Vandal Savage created. The Great Darkness they are talking about is the future threat the Legion called The Great Darkness that was the attacking the future. Same name, different entity. Simply reading the comic would have shown this

Second, the interview he claimed says was one canon fabricated by Vandal Savage doesn't say anything like that.

I ALSO can't find any evidence of his claim it was supposed to tie into Dark Crisis, so.......Yeah. His first major claim has more holes in it than Swiss Cheese.
 
Darkest knight is threat to the hands (who destroyed trillions of multiverses as per chronicler. )
Crisis energy perpetua welds birthed the multiverse from void including 1A realms like deep space and gallery of moments etc.

Not sure what we are arguing about
 
Im going on a quest rn to add scans to profiles who needs it and add bold text to older profiles. So far, I've fixed Post Flashpoint Clayface, Brainiac and Bizarro
 
I'll be trying to pull a fight for classic Constantine but took a time to read the profile for the Post-FP one and...

Weaknesses: Suffers from lung cancer now that his Demon Blood has been removed. [...]
  • In Justice League Dark Vol 2 3, John lost access to his Demon Blood, which allowed him to ignore some of the cost of his spells. In future appearances, however, he hasn't been shown to struggle more than before with his magic. As this leaves it uncertain whether he could use the great majority of his abilities, thus making it impossible to know how he might perform in any certain fight, it is advised to give John access to his Demon Blood in VS Threads.
So he has the Demon Blood or not? Or is it up to interpretation/matchmaking? Also how can someone decide if he has or not something when...

Standard Equipment: A lighter and far too many packs of cigarettes, his usual clothes which are covered in magic protections, holy water.

  • Optional Equipment: Key of Houdini, Moonblade, axes and guns among other weaponry, The House of Mystery (Formerly)
...it is not in his equipment or separating keys off of him?
 
Why this scan not used in the cosmology blog? I think it would be useful to complement more dimensions in the individual universes.

Countdown: Arena #4
 
I'll be trying to pull a fight for classic Constantine but took a time to read the profile for the Post-FP one and...


So he has the Demon Blood or not? Or is it up to interpretation/matchmaking? Also how can someone decide if he has or not something when...


...it is not in his equipment or separating keys off of him?
Bump(?)
 
 
There's some stuff I don't understand

In Death Metal #1, it was stated that the energies were born from both the Presence and the Source, indirectly affirming their unity. Yet, some readers argue that they are distinct entities.
This needs a scan, and being born from 2 guys doesn't equate to Unity at all?

Yeah that can just be them talking about 2 different guys in the same sentence. Its also stated the Source is simply a manifestation of the Presence's power which is supported here
 
There's some stuff I don't understand


This needs a scan, and being born from 2 guys doesn't equate to Unity at all?


Yeah that can just be them talking about 2 different guys in the same sentence. Its also stated the Source is simply a manifestation of the Presence's power which is supported here
what's that then?

As I already wrote in thread that, connective energy came from both Source and Presence, not only at all, they even shared same functionalities, as true form and as manifestations. Scott Snyder affirmed that case like twice. I don't think this actually need factual evidence.

The Source itself isn't the godwave. It was generated after new gods died when manifestation of the source get split in half. The Godwave also might be the power of Source too.
 
what's that then?

As I already wrote in thread that, connective energy came from both Source and Presence,
yeah bc Source is a manifestation of the Presence which makes sense
not only at all, they even shared same functionalities, as true form and as manifestations. Scott Snyder affirmed that case like twice. I don't think this actually need factual evidence.
Im being honest that sounds like saying Apple = Banana bc they are both fruits
 
This needs a scan, and being born from 2 guys doesn't equate to Unity at all?


Yeah that can just be them talking about 2 different guys in the same sentence. Its also stated the Source is simply a manifestation of the Presence's power which is supported here
OK, in the first one, the sentence is constructed less like two people and more like from two titles for one person

"Born from the Source, from the Presence" works more like it's one person, two titles being clarified.

Imagine if someone said, say Stayne, was born "From the Omega. From Darkseid". See how that one works?
 
@Lloydblitzed

Hey, great work on this physiology page so far, what are you plans with it? (e.g. are you taking from every era of DC, N52-Infinite Frontier etc. Any cool abilities you plan to put on it that aren't the typical "heat vision, cold breath, enhances senses" etc?)

I got the motivation to continue this page I def didn't forget about now😭
 
yeah bc Source is a manifestation of the Presence which makes sense

Im being honest that sounds like saying Apple = Banana bc they are both fruits
Well it's vague to claim that so, I won't blame but there's no factual evidence but it can only make sense between evidences like, they shared same functionality as manifestations, even in their true forms.

it's unlike what u thought of. I've already provided the functions of Source and Presence almost being same, esepcially both of them dispatching Perpetua to created multiverse,manifesting themselves into multiverse to keep balance and sitting as the highest being of the greater omniverse.
 
Yeah that can just be them talking about 2 different guys in the same sentence. Its also stated the Source is simply a manifestation of the Presence's power which is supported here
The Highfather scan doesn’t mention the Presence. It just refers to a “creator” which doesn’t automatically equate to the Presence at all. Also the power in that story was the Godwave, which is a byproduct of the Source, and not the Source itself. The Godwave is what created the Gods basically and also gave rise to super powers in the universe. The Presence was said in that story to have the highest concentration of the Godwave making his power more than that of the other Gods who had lesser portions, hence why Chronus wanted to steal it. So this scan would just lend credence to the idea that the Presence is a byproduct of the Source and not the other way around.
 
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Looking at both of the top 15 threads, I'm surprised Pralaya (Avatar) isn't on either of the lists. Isn't she the strongest High 1-A currently for DC? I'm not sure how the High 1-A+ stuff works, in regard to smurfs, but if it's allowed. Shouldn't she be like number one or two? I haven't been keeping up with the recent tier changes to DC, admittedly.
 
Looking at both of the top 15 threads, I'm surprised Pralaya (Avatar) isn't on either of the lists. Isn't she the strongest High 1-A currently for DC? I'm not sure how the High 1-A+ stuff works, in regard to smurfs, but if it's allowed. Shouldn't she be like number one or two? I haven't been keeping up with the recent tier changes to DC, admittedly.
Yeah, her avatar as I mentioned previously is infinite layers into High 1-A.
 
The Highfather scan doesn’t mention the Presence. It just refers to a “creator” which doesn’t automatically equate to the Presence at all. Also the power in that story was the Godwave, which is a byproduct of the Source, and not the Source itself. The Godwave is what created the Gods basically and also gave rise to super powers in the universe. The Presence was said in that story to have the highest concentration of the Godwave making his power more than that of the other Gods who had lesser portions, hence why Chronus wanted to steal it. So this scan would just lend credence to the idea that the Presence is a byproduct of the Source and not the other way around.
It does not at all elude that the Presence was a byproduct of the Source. Cool headcanon which doesn’t live up to the current understanding. However, prior to Cronus taking power everything was a theory about the nature of the Presence including the understanding that it had the highest concentration of Godwave. In the end, we see that the Presence was all, sees all, and beyond all. Since you make the claim it would be a byproduct of the Source. I will make the statement it contains the Source as well.
 
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