Ganon vs Medaka Box's best character

[Iceassassin25]

Sorry the only thing I remembered about ganon was that he could be cheesed with a fishing rod and that he seemed like a massive twat in every game he has been in

 

[TriforcePower1]

@Triforce Can you send me the BFR stuff? i need to see it.

It should be in his gallery.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Btw, Ganon's Resistance to sealing should prevent Book Maker anyway.

 

[Konaguna]

Link gets turned into a rabbit, people get turned into trees or monsters, Link can't use any items while a rabbit, not even Magic, plus it's said people in DW go Mad

Simple

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Btw, Ganon's Resistance to sealing should prevent Book Maker anyway.

Book Maker already works far better than regular sealing

 

[Konaguna]

He ain't even getting sealed by some normal shit, he often gets sealed by by very powerful sorcerers or mages

 

[TriforcePower1]

And Ganondorf constantly needs to be greatly weakened as otherwise any kind of sealing fails badly against him. We see this in BOTW where Zelda's sealing can barely contain Calamity Ganon in a Castle while his malice still works outside of it still fine.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

He ain't even getting sealed by some normal shit, he often gets sealed by by very powerful sorcerers or mages

Yes, and Book Maker is nowhere near normal shit, so don't worry about that

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

And Ganondorf constantly needs to be greatly weakened as otherwise any kind of sealing fails badly against him. We see this in BOTW where Zelda's sealing can barely contain Calamity Ganon in a Castle while his malice still works outside of it still fine.

Book Maker already works on a much greater level than normal sealing. He can seal minus who resist having their abilities sealed/nullified. Worse comes to worse, he uses multiple book Maker to drive it home

 

[TriforcePower1]

Bookmaker also won't work because the Triforce is a separate entity from Ganon, kind of a sentient (though not really) weapon. Nulling Ganondorf doesn't mean nulling the Triforce, with which Ganon can still BFR. As well as a ton of other stuff like mind manipulation in the thousands or 4-B RW

 

[Schnee_One]

Ganon is too stupid to use BFR after Bookmaker

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Bookmaker also won't work because the Triforce is a separate entity from Ganon, kind of a sentient (though not really) weapon. Nulling Ganondorf doesn't mean nulling the Triforce, with which Ganon can still BFR. As well as a ton of other stuff like mind manipulation in the thousands or 4-B RW

While he might be physically capable, he will be incapacitated already from the shock alone. He will also lose any tactical mind he had

 

[TriforcePower1]

Full Triforce contains the Triforce of Wisdom, which enhances, well, wisdom. Book Maker also doesn't make people that stupid, but instead it gives them Kumagawa's desperation which is generally able to break normal people. Resistance to mindhax and madness manipulation is going to be enough.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Full Triforce contains the Triforce of Wisdom, which enhances, well, wisdom. Book Maker also doesn't make people that stupid, but instead it gives them Kumagawa's desperation which is generally able to break normal people. Resistance to mindhax and madness manipulation is going to be enough.

I didn't mention wisdom. The main thing is the shock of being a minus. I don't know what his desperation has to do with incapacitation. Also, Book Maker is already leagues above normal empathic manipulation

 

[The_Causality]

Full Triforce contains the Triforce of Wisdom, which enhances, well, wisdom. Book Maker also doesn't make people that stupid, but instead it gives them Kumagawa's desperation which is generally able to break normal people. Resistance to mindhax and madness manipulation is going to be enough.

Actually it isn't really that, Bookm├╣aker turn the target at Kumagawa's level, technique, skill, intelligence, it's a Stats Equalizer in verse, It's Kumagawa's word which broke people's heart, not bookmaker (bookmaker do it in turning the target at Kuma's level)

 

[TriforcePower1]

Also, why are we assuming he would lead with erasing his time? He only did it once with the guys in his old high school. Maybe twice if you want to consider what he did with the 5 middle school girls erasing time instead of him just being fast enough to blitz them.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Nope, any time he does his blitz is him using erased time. Its one of his main openers, but it isn't his only one. You also completely missed him using it on Mogura, which is another example

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Having read MB (for the most part as I have two arcs left), Kumagawa does not lead with infinite blitz.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Ganondorf resists mindhax from having the Triforce of Courage, which lets Link resist having the memories and emotions of every person in a country dumped in his mind. So Bookmaker shock wouldn't be very effective.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

@Cal False. He lead with it against Mogura, Jakago's crew, and those are just the two off the top of my head.

Although the more important one is that he leads with book Maker spawn here

 

[PaChi2]

Having read MB (for the most part as I have two arcs left), Kumagawa does not lead with infinite blitz.

Having played most TLoZ games, Ganondorf does not lead with BFR.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Ganondorf resists mindhax from having the Triforce of Courage, which lets Link resist having the memories and emotions of every person in a country dumped in his mind. So Bookmaker shock wouldn't be very effective.

Nice, but Book Maker isn't mind hax. Its empathic manipulation that is leagues above normal empathic manipulation, on top of the sealing

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm certain those will be the only times he's used them as he didn't use them against the Loser Crew, Class 13, Zenkichi, Medaka, in his prequel stories, etc.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Yeah, but this particular incarnation of Ganon is only his ALTTP one, so what he does in his other keys doesn't matter.

 

[The_Causality]

Yes?

• Firstly against the Five student when he got bullied
• Secondly against his old friends when someone found the way to kill him infinitely
• And thirdly probably against Mogura

He use it when he has All Fiction + Bookmaker

 

[PaChi2]

I'm certain those will be the only times he's used them as he didn't use them against the Loser Crew, Class 13, Zenkichi, Medaka, in his prequel stories, etc.

He used it in his prequel.

He used it againat Class 13.

W0t.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I'm certain those will be the only times he's used them as he didn't use them against the Loser Crew, Class 13, Zenkichi, Medaka, in his prequel stories, etc.

You know it's not his only opener right? And not even the most important one for this match. The more important one is book Maker spawn

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Having played most TLoZ games, Ganondorf does not lead with BFR.

Seeet. Good thing this is a specific incarnation of Ganon in a single game where it's pretry much the only thing he's done instead of a character who has to be taken in his entirety.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I got an exam to do, I'll be back after

 

[PaChi2]

Yeah, but this particular incarnation of Ganon is only his ALTTP one, so what he does in his other keys doesn't matter.

So this is Gano and not Ganondorf?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Sticking screws in people =/= he used infinite speed to do so.

I'll take back what I said about the prequels tho

 

[TriforcePower1]

Nice, but Book Maker isn't mind hax. Its empathic manipulation that is leagues above normal empathic manipulation, on top of the sealing

Yeah, but Ganon kinda resists both. Empathic Manipulation is just a kind of mind manipulation, Ganon's empathic Manipulation still scales from basically having an entire countries worth of emotions dumped into your brain and constantly resists sealing, even those of holy nature which are his main weakness.

 

[The_Causality]

Sticking screws in people =/= he used infinite speed to do so.

He used the same tactic the three time tho

 

[TriforcePower1]

So this is Gano and not Ganondorf?

Yeah, my bad. I'm going to fix that in order to avoid confusion.

 

[PaChi2]

And asuming Ganon is already outside, in the Light World (free), he is very unlikely to BFR anyway.

 

[The_Causality]

Well, for now give my vote to the looser FRA

 

[TriforcePower1]

He used the same tactic the three time tho

But he never leads with it in all three cases. In the first he just messes around with them for a bit, in the second he only uses it only after being chained and they try to infinitely kill him and in the third he only does that at the end of the battle.

 

[PaChi2]

Having played most TLoZ games, Ganondorf does not lead with BFR.

Seeet. Good thing this is a specific incarnation of Ganon in a single game where it's pretry much the only thing he's done instead of a character who has to be taken in his entirety.

Ganon was in the Dark World, BFRing someone to where he is is not the same as taking people to the Dark World for ***** and giggles. In fact, its the opossite of BFR.

 

[The_Causality]

But he never leads with it in all three cases. In the first he just messes around with them for a bit, in the second he only uses it only after being chained and they try to infinitely kill him and in the third he only does that at the end of the battle.

The first Time, when he was going to fight, he used it right of the bat

The second case is the same, when he was going to fight, used it again

And thirdly is literally the same, during the whole fight, he waited that Zenkichi reject Emukae's confession and End this.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Tell that to Aghanim