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He meant early Kabuto's genjutsu, which mindhaxed many shinobi during Chuunin Exams. And Itachi is, hilariously more powerful than that.
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Its both. and it depends on the genjutsu. tsukuyomi is definitely mind manipulation for example.Ogbunabali said:Also genjutsu is Perception Manipulation not Mind Manipulation, it's an important difference.
That's wrong. He didn't do that because of her ability to oxygen people. He can just erase abilities. The only reason he even bothered checking her ability is to see whether she would be a good match against Ajimu. He doesn't need that against Itachi.Raito Utopia said:@Fire
He knew about her oxygen manipulation so he erased time and KO her before she killed him more times.On the other hand, he doesn't have any information about itachi, doesn't know about Tsukuyomi, Totsuka Blade ... There is no 100% guarantee he will erase the time and book maker as you said. Misogi also often let his opponent take action first to consider the ability of the enemy
Yes, but the one he did against Kakashi is the one that wouldn't work. It's just trauma which can get AF-d.Rocker1189 said:Its both. and it depends on the genjutsu. tsukuyomi is definitely mind manipulation for example.Ogbunabali said:Also genjutsu is Perception Manipulation not Mind Manipulation, it's an important difference.
Its not "just" trauma lmfao. Dude it is on the level of, it can kill someone. And yet again, AF wont work once he is under a genjutsu, anything he tries would just happen in the genjutsu world, whcih is not real.Firephoenixearl said:Yes, but the one he did against Kakashi is the one that wouldn't work. It's just trauma which can get AF-d.
Not to mention i have HEAVY doubts he would be able to show Misogi something that would break him down. Considering for most of the show he literally lacks emotions and "a heart". I doubt he'd be able to break him down with illusions.
The illusion lasts for how long Itachi wants it to last irl. He just compresses time for it to last shorter, either way a couple of seconds is enough for totsuka blade. Thats cool but it wont matter, incap is incape, he might recover quickly but he wont recover in time for it to not be a loss. what Itachi did to Kakashi was simpy to keep him out of the fight considering he can kill people with it by literally breaking their minds, even if it does not kill Misogi his mind would be broken.Firephoenixearl said:I mean it does work like that. And the illusion didn't last for that much. The trauma lasted. Kakashi suffered so much damage from that torture that he went into a coma for several days. The same wouldn't happen as Misogi can just recover from that stuff.
Yes none of those will work on someone who stabs his own head and brain for fun.
I am assuming that the ability to control everything in that world means that he would be able to make kumagawa feel as tortured as he wants him to. This is ignoring a bunch of other things that Itachi can force him to feel besides just being stabbed.Firephoenixearl said:I forgot to say what can Itachi do against Misogi crushing him emotionally?
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Yes but they can't be too long cus the longer it takes, the more chakra it needs. The usual lasts very little. Couple of seconds is enough for a totsuka blade. That's assuming he would use, you know...Susano, a completely OOC move. Yes but as i said, Kumagawa won't be out for that long as he can just erase the effects.
Ok, but again, you're assuming that showing visions of getting stabbed would work on someone who enjoys stabbing himself
he is stated to be able to control everything in that world. For Sasuke it was the killing of parents and stuff because that is Sasuke's trauma. He also gave sasuke illusions of pulling out his eyeballs in the fight in shipudden. And showed what he saw as a good future of the village to his father.Firephoenixearl said:Pretty sure itachi can't do that. He always does a specific nightmare to people. Against Sasuke killing his parents or stealing his sharingan, aganst kakashi getting stabbed. I don't think he ever showed a case of controling other people's feelings.
Itachi will be in line of sight via SBA.Rocker1189 said:He has no ESP so I doubt he would know where Itachi is, if he does use clones.
So he has only endured eye bleeding, yeah that cant compare.
It is a valid argument. How will Kumagawa even know where he is, or even if he erased a clone or not in the first place? He knows nothing about Itachi or Naruto's world. For all he knows, he killed a random dude.Firephoenixearl said:@Og
That's not a valid argument and you know it. Even if he sends a clone, the real itachi will still be there. So he'll just screw spam both. Not to mention Misogi's negativity from so much as speaking.
You forget that ninja in line of sight create clones without the other person seeing that they have moved somewhere else and have the clones act in their place.Firephoenixearl said:Itachi will be in line of sight via SBA.
And it's not like he'll have time to do any clone shenanigans before Kumagawa erases time.
No a knife that stabbed his eye and hit the brain. A massive screw that went completley through his head etc.
No he won't be. He'll be 4km apart in Central Park, New York City. Kumagawa won't see a thing.Firephoenixearl said:Itachi will be in line of sight via SBA.
There's no such thing as "broken". Compatibility is a main in most fights. Medaka Box are known for being rather strong 3D reality warpers but they are extremely weak against 2 things in particular, and that is Mind Hax and Soul Hax.Wrath Of Itachi said:Isnt this dude suppose to be extremely broken?