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unless the info manipulation has feats of destroying a 4d object (DT, which is always 4d), then frisk soul can stilél come backRyuetsu said:
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Frisk vs. Suzumi Kuzu (Len'en Project)
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it did, it stated that it does, and the background becomes a black void, it is also stated so in therie pages, so you have to make a crt, and yes, exictence erasure can be resicted, which i would expect a guy with a dragon ball character as an immage would know., not immune, but the only real immunes are tier 0esDemonic Retribution2 said:
if you do not belive that, make a crt, and chara erased the timeline and frisk was fine, as the anomaly keeps them alive
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yes, reset is not an attack or ap feat, so it does not get nulled, same for paradox immunity
Frisk only showed Time Paradox Immunity in they 2-B form...
Frisk only showed Time Paradox Immunity in they 2-B form...
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dt alone gives that, and the only way for that to be a factor is far fetched and unrealisticAnonimoe7875 said:
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The highest feat of info manip ever is manipulating concepts. What I'm getting at here is that the highest form of info manipulation is "If they learn of it, they can alter it." Not entirely sure if Suzumi has that form of info manip, since JynX is so secretive about everything, even hiding other abilities that Suzumi has under a "Suzumi has a lot more abilities, but nobody remembers them."Ricsi-viragosi said:
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"The background becomes a black void" The black void was always there for some battles other than Asriel. The black void doesn't prove shit.
Are you judgeing me because I'm part of the DBZ fandom? If so then you must actually be an idiot.
When Chara erased the timeline that was a 4th wall moment. Chara was not actually talking to Frisk, Chara was talking to the player themself. Frisk was erased along with the game. May I also add that thr wind sound effect was heard during that part in Undertale? Not everything was erased.
How the hell is there people that are "real" immune to Existence Erasure? You're either immune or not immune, there is no in between.
Relying on facts in events that only occured when the 4th wall was broken doesn't combine with outside game characters. Please use evidence when replying again.
Are you judgeing me because I'm part of the DBZ fandom? If so then you must actually be an idiot.
When Chara erased the timeline that was a 4th wall moment. Chara was not actually talking to Frisk, Chara was talking to the player themself. Frisk was erased along with the game. May I also add that thr wind sound effect was heard during that part in Undertale? Not everything was erased.
How the hell is there people that are "real" immune to Existence Erasure? You're either immune or not immune, there is no in between.
Relying on facts in events that only occured when the 4th wall was broken doesn't combine with outside game characters. Please use evidence when replying again.
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firstly, it was stated so and acepted, and same happened with chara, if you dont like it then make a crt, and i wasent judging you, i pointed out that saying that eresure cant be resisted for a guy who watched a series where erasure is resisted s not realy logical, i wont judge somone for theire tastes
yes, but the anomaly still brings back frisk, game mechanic, as pointed out in EVERY thread that tried to point that out
hahahhahahahah, no. zeno can erase vegeta, but toppo cant.
there is 3d erasure, 4d erasure, 5d erasure etc, resicting one doesent mean resicting all, as that would be an nlf
dude, it was already accepted, go make a crt if you dont like it
yes, but the anomaly still brings back frisk, game mechanic, as pointed out in EVERY thread that tried to point that out
hahahhahahahah, no. zeno can erase vegeta, but toppo cant.
there is 3d erasure, 4d erasure, 5d erasure etc, resicting one doesent mean resicting all, as that would be an nlf
dude, it was already accepted, go make a crt if you dont like it
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highest info manipulation is 10D manipulation, as all of the omniverse is made out of information. but she does not have that.
and again, said theory pages were accepted, so unless you make a crt against them, they are counted
and again, said theory pages were accepted, so unless you make a crt against them, they are counted
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But that's just a theory... A GAME THEORY!!!
Look, no theories ever got confirmed and I don't want to be criticising the wiki as of now to get banned but some of these pages here are inaccurate at Hell. You don't simply confirm a theory yourself unless you have MASS amounts of evidence to do so.
Yeah the anomaly brought back frisk... AFTER Chara brought back the timeline in exchange of Frisk's soul. The soul was exchanged after Chara brought back everything because the player was powerless to screw over Chara, for there was no option to turn back after making the choice.
Stop relying on theories to "prove" your points.
Look, no theories ever got confirmed and I don't want to be criticising the wiki as of now to get banned but some of these pages here are inaccurate at Hell. You don't simply confirm a theory yourself unless you have MASS amounts of evidence to do so.
Yeah the anomaly brought back frisk... AFTER Chara brought back the timeline in exchange of Frisk's soul. The soul was exchanged after Chara brought back everything because the player was powerless to screw over Chara, for there was no option to turn back after making the choice.
Stop relying on theories to "prove" your points.
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Theories confirmed by Toby Fox himself? Go ahead. Site your sources. Theories may come to be accepted by the fanbase but it isn't official until Toby himself confirms it. And you can't just say "yeah he confirmed it." Bring out your sources and citations. I'll even bring out mine.
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the anomaly never died by charas hand, you are the anomaly, and both are capable of doing so.
then do so, because unless you make a crt, its not a valid point, i do not like the pages either (flowey being above chara for a statement done when he didnt even know who was chara for exemple), but unless you get them through your points are invalid, the fact that you claim that somone cant be immune to certain erasures while being affected by others doesent help you
then do so, because unless you make a crt, its not a valid point, i do not like the pages either (flowey being above chara for a statement done when he didnt even know who was chara for exemple), but unless you get them through your points are invalid, the fact that you claim that somone cant be immune to certain erasures while being affected by others doesent help you
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no, accepted, if you make a crt and it gets accepted ill be glad to change my reasoningRyuetsu said:
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Can you explain to me what the **** is a crt please? You're not proving that these theories are facts and I doubt that a crt would change that.
Moderator please close this thread.
Moderator please close this thread.
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a crt is a content revision, it was accepted on the wiki, as such , until its removed, it is used for an argument
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It's still a fan-made wiki. It's not completely canon, it's just accepted among the fanbase. What I'm looking for absolute, canonical evidence. Without canonical evidence that was written into the game BY Toby Fox himself, then it can be brushed off as a mere theory.Ricsi-viragosi said:
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R e g a r d l e s s
In reality that is not the ******* case. It may be allowed here but not allowed in public. Thus Frisk's win here would be entirely because of fanon abilities and wank.
Like I said, close this thread. Suzuki wins this.
In reality that is not the ******* case. It may be allowed here but not allowed in public. Thus Frisk's win here would be entirely because of fanon abilities and wank.
Like I said, close this thread. Suzuki wins this.
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it is accepted here, on the vs battle wiki, not the undertale one, and once again, she has still no way around reset.
seriusly, make a content revision thread or stop complaining
seriusly, make a content revision thread or stop complaining
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you still afiled to give a way for her to get around reset though, and that did affect objects that ere 4d
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Even so, this is still a fanmade server discussing power levels. Besides, Suzumi can manipulate information if she has the knowledge of it. Whether she can manipulate 4D objects or not, I dunno. It's up to JynX. We may even learn about it in Len'en 4.5 or 5. As for now, this fight is either a win for Suzumi, or inconclusive.
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If there is no ways around reset then this battle is a stalemate. Suzumi can endlessly beat Frisk. Their "Determination" can work as a double sided sword. Everything has to give up at some point.
Just because something is on a wiki doesn't mean it is a fact.
Just because something is on a wiki doesn't mean it is a fact.
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her data manipulation has not manipulated 4d objects, as such, we assume it cant, unless you wish to make a no limits fallacy
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Link the CRT or the statement on the wiki where it's been accepted, seeing as I can't find it, and you're spamming "it's been accepted" without providing any proof.
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just ask azzatoth the abbyssal idiot, and i gave you exemples of how reset is tier 3, and time paradoy immunity ia directly on frisks page, and the anomaly has its own page
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...I'll ask, but I shouldn't have to ask, to confirm your statements. The one bringing up the argument should be the one providing proof to back it up.
Also: Voting Inconclusive
Also: Voting Inconclusive
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its on theire pages...Sceptilespy said:
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again, its on tehire pages, and to get there it had to be accepted.Ryuetsu said:
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Boi! On the ******* description it says Tier 7 only! Don't give me that ******* shit!
Someone close this ******* thread already. This battle is either a Stalemate, Inconclusive, or a Win for Suzuki.
Unless someone provides evidence, this is a stalemate.
Someone close this ******* thread already. This battle is either a Stalemate, Inconclusive, or a Win for Suzuki.
Unless someone provides evidence, this is a stalemate.
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yes! and? frisk has reset on tier 7, and restricting abilities is against the rules.Demonic Retribution2 said:
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If you're so ******* bold on this then PROVIDE EVIDENCE!
I cannot ******* stress enough on this, if you're so safe claiming that these feats are on the CRT, then provide a link for us to see!
Stop telling us to see for ourselves and start giving us evidence for ALL of your claims above because you never provided evidence for any of them.
I cannot ******* stress enough on this, if you're so safe claiming that these feats are on the CRT, then provide a link for us to see!
Stop telling us to see for ourselves and start giving us evidence for ALL of your claims above because you never provided evidence for any of them.
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its on theire pages, and calm down. theire pages are closed, and all the abilities were put in after crt, as thats the rule,and eny exeption to this has to be removed.
they are on theire character page. unless you cant read, but if its too hard to find, heres frisk page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Frisk
they are on theire character page. unless you cant read, but if its too hard to find, heres frisk page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Frisk
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you cant vote, as the creator of the fightRyuetsu said:
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i would also ask to not qute multiple qutes, makes it hard for phone users to scroll down
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If he can't vote then I vote Inconclusive. In addition, we are talking about the damned CRT. Not the ******* character page. Are you going to show us the CRT or ******* not?
Can somebody PLEASE close this thread if he is not going to show evidence.
Can somebody PLEASE close this thread if he is not going to show evidence.
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again, stop swearing, as its against the rules, and as i already explained above, the pages are closed, and can only be edited after crts, and again, as i said above, go and ask azatoth the abyssal idiot if you wishfor it to be explainedDemonic Retribution2 said:
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