Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

[ByAsura]

Sure.

 

[Majinere566]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/meliodas-vs-ji-ning.132907/#post-4562441 calling all nnt supporters

Can we just refrain from battles until all the revisions are done?

 

[Zezu1995]

question... do we not multiply deri ap by her combo star? i think 53 was the highest vs demon hawk.. wait how much did she use against mael? then again it did say each hit was 200k extra of power

https://gyazo.com/9a110621399ade288dfb468f5069002c

 

[Majinere566]

question... do we not multiply deri ap by her combo star? i think 53 was the highest vs demon hawk.. wait how much did she use against mael? then again it did say each hit was 200k extra of power

https://gyazo.com/9a110621399ade288dfb468f5069002c

I thought it was more like an add on?

 

[Zezu1995]

I thought it was more like an add on?

it is, each hit does 200k more damage but she scales to island-large possibly more with indura so cant we scale her ap to the highest combo star? which would scale durability like mel and mael and dmeon hawk

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

question... do we not multiply deri ap by her combo star? i think 53 was the highest vs demon hawk.. wait how much did she use against mael? then again it did say each hit was 200k extra of power

https://gyazo.com/9a110621399ade288dfb468f5069002c

It's not a Multiplier though? It's just stack damage.

 

[Majinere566]

it is, each hit does 200k more damage but she scales to island-large possibly more with indura so cant we scale her ap to the highest combo star? which would scale durability like mel and mael and dmeon hawk

So Like Demon Mark is for example I think 18 gigatons and assuming each combo star is 18 gigatons and adding 54 of those would be like 72 gigatons

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

assuming each combo star is 18 gigatons and adding 54 of those would be like 72 gigatons

Did you mean 1 Gigaton and not 18?

1 Combo Star = 1 Gigaton

54 Combo Stars = 54 Gigatons

 

[Majinere566]

Did you mean 1 Gigaton and not 18?

1 Combo Star = 1 Gigaton

54 Combo Stars = 54 Gigatons

No I mean like a combo star should be 18 gigatons scaling(maybe) to Demon Meliodas

 

[GroundX1]

NNT has no multiplier?

 

[GroundX1]

In terms of speed

 

[Majinere566]

NNT has no multiplier?

Only 1 I know off( Ominous nebula amp)

 

[Le'garde273]

Only 1 I know off( Ominous nebula amp)

indirectly he amplifies it with demon mark 2, so we can assume meliodas mark also has amp?

 

[Majinere566]

indirectly he amplifies it with demon mark 2, so we can assume meliodas mark also has amp?

That would actually he cool but I don't know

 

[GroundX1]

I was curious how the speed scale would look using the ryudoshel Sol, so I thought if the back had a multiplier, because if it has the God Tiers they could be high scale FTL or FTL+, Obviously this depends on the level of the multiplier so I asked

 

[Majinere566]

It would be cool if Demon Mark was a speed amp, he would've been reaching Relativistic in like season 2 or 3

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

No I mean like a combo star should be 18 gigatons scaling(maybe) to Demon Meliodas

Then what's this all about:

each combo star is 18 gigatons adding 54 of those would be 72 gigatons

"Add 54 of those (Combo Stars. 1 Combo Star = 18 Gigatons) would be 72 Gigatons"

Are you implying that 4 Combo Stars = 54 Gigatons?

 

[Majinere566]

Then what's this all about:


"Add 54 of those (Combo Stars. 1 Combo Star = 18 Gigatons) would be 72 Gigatons"

Are you implying that 4 Combo Stars = 54 Gigatons?

No it's simple addition

18+54 is all what I did

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

No it's simple addition

18+54 is all what I did

Where does the 54 Gigatons come from then?

 

[Majinere566]

Where does the 54 Gigatons come from then?

I said 54(referring to combo stars)

 

[ByAsura]

Derieri isn't 18 gigatons. She's like 6.7.

question... do we not multiply deri ap by her combo star? i think 53 was the highest vs demon hawk.. wait how much did she use against mael? then again it did say each hit was 200k extra of power

Even the first punch draws blood. It's unknown how many he took in total.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I said 54(referring to combo stars)

You realize what you're implying right?

Earlier you basically said "what if 1 Combo Star = 18 Gigatons"

"But 54 Combo Stars = 72 Gigatons"

Via the reasoning 18 Gigatons (1 Combo Star) + 54 Combo Stars = 72 Gigatons

That's what you've been implying.

 

[Majinere566]

You realize what you're implying right?

Earlier you basically said "what if 1 Combo Star = 18 Gigatons"

"But 54 Combo Stars = 72 Gigatons"

Via the reasoning 18 Gigatons (1 Combo Star) + 54 Combo Stars = 72 Gigatons

That's what you've been implying.

Thats basically what I said I don't see why you're dragging this

 

[Majinere566]

Derieri isn't 18 gigatons. She's like 6.7.

How strong is Demon Mark Meliodas?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Thats basically what I said I don't see why you're dragging this

Because of how you structured what you said?

If you had said that Base Derieri ~ DM Meliodas (18 Gigatons) in your example and that 1 Combo Star = 1 Gigaton then what you had previously said would have made more sense because:

Base Derieri (18 Gigatons) + 54 Combo Stars (54 Gigatons) = 72 Gigatons

 

[ByAsura]

How strong is Demon Mark Meliodas?

6.7.

 

[Zezu1995]

Derieri isn't 18 gigatons. She's like 6.7.

Even the first punch draws blood. It's unknown how many he took in total.

meh i say we scale as much she did to mel and hawk both was over 50 which they both tanked. and when i say mel i mean meliodas . but you right about mael they didnt show a number. Either way this is a good way to scale them via derieri

 

[ByAsura]

This is assuming each adds 1 gigaton in the first place. We have no reason to assume that, and it's against the wiki's rules (especially since it's partially calc stacking).

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

This is assuming each adds 1 gigaton in the first place. We have no reason to assume that, and it's against the wiki's rules (especially since it's partially calc stacking).

How much is 200,000 pounds of force × 54 in K/M/G-Tons?

 

[ByAsura]

There was a method, IIRC, where you convert pound-force to newtons (889644.32 N, in this case) and divide by the length of their arm.

If we assume 0.7 metres, each hit adds the equivalent of 0.00030375727 Tons of TNT per hit.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

So basically nothing worth more than a "Higher With"

 

[Zezu1995]

This is assuming each adds 1 gigaton in the first place. We have no reason to assume that, and it's against the wiki's rules (especially since it's partially calc stacking).

hmm i guess but thats how her powers work.. so we just gonna ignore it? xd

 

[Majinere566]

Wait how are add ons calc stacking?

 

[Majinere566]

I'm trying to learn when horizon calculator are useful. Can I use it for this?

 

[ByAsura]

hmm i guess but thats how her powers work.. so we just gonna ignore it? xd

I doesn't add on one gigaton. It adds on an unknown amount of strength.

Wait how are add ons calc stacking?

Because it doesn't add on one gigaton. You're just downscaling from a calculation.

I'm trying to learn when horizon calculator are useful. Can I use it for this?

We can't even see the horizon, so no.

 

[Zezu1995]

asura how come no1 tried using a super lowball of 1 million years (since he can survive purgatory) for DK creation feat to scale to his AP?

 

[ByAsura]

Probably because that isn't stated.

It doesn't make sense, either, because time isn't accelerated in the Demon World.

 

[Rabbit2002]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/nnt-crt-part-2.132982/

 

[Le'garde273]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/nnt-crt-part-2.132982/

Don't you add the movie scene one?

 

[Rabbit2002]

Don't you add the movie scene one?

I added a scene you give