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Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

Sub-Relativistic (via being twice his normal Demon Mark speed, which can keep up with True Vessel Tarmiel level characters), possibly FTL Combat Speed and with Ominous Nebula (Doubles his previous speed. Ludoshel suggested his Ominous Nebula may surpass Flash)
 
Doesn't it's like this?
Sub-Relativistic (via being twice his normal Demon Mark speed, which can keep up with True Vessel Tarmiel level characters), Relativistic (with second demon mark) possibly FTL Combat Speed and with Ominous Nebula (Doubles his previous speed. Ludoshel suggested his Ominous Nebula may surpass Flash)
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ByAsura said:
Sub-Relativistic (via being twice his normal Demon Mark speed, which can keep up with True Vessel Tarmiel level characters), possibly FTL Combat Speed and with Ominous Nebula (Doubles his previous speed. Ludoshel suggested his Ominous Nebula may surpass Flash)
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Any other challenges with the sand box?
 
No. Here, let me explain.

Massively Hypersonic+, possibly Relativistic+ Combat Speed (Kept up with Ludoshel's Flash, though he was being overwhelmed) and Ominous Nebula (Half as fast as his 2nd Demon mark) | Sub-Relativistic (via being twice his normal Demon Mark speed, which can keep up with True Vessel Tarmiel level characters), possibly FTL Combat Speed and with Ominous Nebula (Doubles his previous speed. Ludoshel suggested his Ominous Nebula may surpass Flash)

1st Mark | 2nd Mark
 
tell me if my scaling decent for FLASH
flash - SOL (possibly more in true body)
zeldris ON- SOL- FTL at max power
dolar - Magic was able to outpace true body ludo from killing monspeet,deri
glox- scaling to dolar ( but this also scales melidoas after he got his powers back)
chandler- fought dolar/glox and was tired/damaged
sins- found dk
mael- fought zeldris and his magic speed could counter ON before it fully started (shouldnt be weaker than one escanor with the grace)
tarmiel/sariel -?? tbh not sure about them
 
Zeldris wouldn't be SoL with 1 Mark. There's nothing suggesting that ON rivals Ludoshel normally.

No, we have no reason to assume Drole's magic outmoved Flash, and it doesn't make sense with scaling.

Demon Meliodas outsped Gloxinia to the point where he couldn't see him, and blitzed his reactions. He could also react to First Form, but not avoid it from moderate range.

Mael didn't destroy Zeldris' blade before ON fully started. Even Merlin was still casting her spell.

Tarmiel and Sariel wouldn't remotely scale. Ludoshel is way stronger already, and Flash is made to move at massive speeds.
 
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i agree with everything but drole, the magic did outpace him.. he tried blitzing pass mel to kill deri/monspeet no reason he wouldnt be using flash and drole magic outpaced that also in that fight... sariel/tarmiel regen bypassed purgatory regen negation

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I know what instance you're talking about. When he uses flash, he's shown to move as if he's teleporting. Also, Drole is slower than guys Ludoshel has gone up against.

Ludo using Flash/Drole being faster just doesn't make sense.
 
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ByAsura said:
I know what instance you're talking about. When he uses flash, he's shown to move as if he's teleporting. Also, Drole is slower than guys Ludoshel has gone up against.

Ludo using Flash/Drole being faster just doesn't make sense.
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i 100% get u but that same drole and glox gave chanlder a hard fight so why do we low ball him?
 
I'm not low-balling him. All Chandler could do is outpace a weakened Ludoshel, and was outsped normally. This just proves my point.
 
2nd Demon Mark Zeldris was able to keep up with King's Spear better than OG Demon, so at least Massively Hypersonic+ makes the most sense for Cusack and Chandler individually.
 
Acutally, I still believe that purgatory was created by Chaos. First, Merlin stated it's a land of chaos, I don't think she means a chaotic place or something, she could mean it belong to Chaos and created by him due to the fact that Merlin is very knowledge about Chaos. Second, that is every monster's born (Purgatory Creatures) from Chaos even other living things
 
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