Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

[Arnoldstone18]

Not fully i agree with Asura read what he said

Tag it

 

[Majinere566]

He doesn’t have to say FC it’s been explained.

He quite literally doesn't say full counter

Nvm I read this wrong. Don't care if it's been explained or not. I am saying that he never mentions it as a note

 

[Makai641001]

Using darkness in many ways is magic. Even the healing ability is referred to as dark magic.

Meliodas/Chandler can also FC Diane's rocks, King's attacks and the elements used by Holy Knights, so it's because they're based on magic.

I agree about darkness eventually being magic for some uses but not being for others I think we might have to check on a case to case basis

 

[Zezu1995]

its literally both, its not but can be.

 

[Makai641001]

Guys Imma eat for a bit then i’ll keep adding the abilities from my CRT I’m almost finished for the already accepted NNT abilities

 

[Arnoldstone18]

I agree about darkness eventually being magic for some uses but not being for others I think we might have to check on a case to case basis

Yes but you need to be specific. I’m sensing you will still twist this logic somehow.

Do you agree with the following statement:

“Darkness is negative energy or forces that demons and the demon realm generate. However, when demons attack or enhance with darkness it becomes magic.”

Yes or No.

 

[Makai641001]

Yes but you need to be specific. I’m sensing you will still twist this logic somehow.

Do you agree with the following statement:

“Darkness is negative energy or forces that demons and the demon realm generate. However, when demons attack or enhance with darkness it becomes magic.”

Yes or No.

Not all demons attacks would be magic imo how would I twist something we will check on a case by case basis ?

 

[Arnoldstone18]

how would I twist

Not all demons attacks would be magic imo

we will check on a case by case basis

Idk what you take me for.

 

[Majinere566]

A simple yes or no....

 

[Majinere566]

Spoiler: Leaks

 

[speedster352]

Spoiler: Leaks

Meliodas wasted no time that’s why Tristian was born when Elizabeth was around 17 maybe 18

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Your next

You’re*

 

[Deceived3596]

Elizabeth was around 17 maybe 18

Real

 

[Makai641001]

Idk what you take me for.

It’s just my opinion that won’t decide what we will agree for during these case by case analysis

 

[Makai641001]

Spoiler: Leaks

LMAO ain’t she sick asl ????

Finished the editing for NNT yaaaay now i’ll wait for the other abilities to turn green

 

[Makai641001]

Real

Btw when will these other threads come out ?

 

[Zezu1995]

kinda looks like she put on weight

 

[Arnoldstone18]

It’s just my opinion that won’t decide what we will agree for during these case by case analysis

You're probably going to force my hand someday cuz, in the end, opinions won't matter if that time comes. sayonara.

 

[Makai641001]

You're probably going to force my hand someday cuz, in the end, opinions won't matter if that time comes. sayonara.

I would only force you to send feets tho

As we said our opinions won’t matter facts will.

Adieu

 

[speedster352]

LMAO ain’t she sick asl ????

Finished the editing for NNT yaaaay now i’ll wait for the other abilities to turn green

Which ones are added?

 

[Makai641001]

Which ones are added?

Chaos
Meliodas
Gelda
Izraf
Ganne
Mod
Orlondi
Ren
Nanashi
Jenna
Zaneri
Dreyfus

Waiting for the 4KOTA keys to add the 4KOTA abilities etc…

 

[speedster352]

Chaos
Meliodas
Gelda
Izraf
Ganne
Mod
Orlondi
Ren
Nanashi
Jenna
Zaneri
Dreyfus

Waiting for the 4KOTA keys to add the 4KOTA abilities etc…

What about the abilities for high ranking demons? It has enough input.

Spoiler: Leaks

if we calc AM Meliodas using kami chigrir in under 0.7 seconds would that be an upgrade? Are there other impressive speed or ap feat in nnt?

 

[Majinere566]

if we calc AM Meliodas using kami chigrir in under 0.7 seconds would that be an upgrade? Are there other impressive speed or ap feat in nnt?

It's not even scratching subsonic

 

[speedster352]

It's not even scratching subsonic

But he does 1000 slashes what about Escanor reaction speed

 

[Majinere566]

But he does 1000 slashes what about Escanor reaction speed

It's not cracking MHS even

 

[speedster352]

Here problem solved even Zeldris beloved that Meliodas can beat him when the DK was in his body

 

[speedster352]

Here problem solved even Zeldris beloved that Meliodas can beat him when the DK was in his body

Thoughts

It's not cracking MHS even

Chaos
Meliodas
Gelda
Izraf
Ganne
Mod
Orlondi
Ren
Nanashi
Jenna
Zaneri
Dreyfus

Waiting for the 4KOTA keys to add the 4KOTA abilities etc…

You're probably going to force my hand someday cuz, in the end, opinions won't matter if that time comes. sayonara.

Real

kinda looks like she put on weight

 

[Arnoldstone18]

What you tagging me for fam?

I ain't know what the hell is going on.

 

[speedster352]

Helbram stuff isn't accepted yet.

Any updates? Any new calcs and stuff?

 

[Zezu1995]

i dont think we need new calcs tbh, just more to add on to our already huge pile.

 

[Majinere566]

i dont think we need new calcs tbh, just more to add on to our already huge pile.

Yeah we just need to flesh out feats

Like we have 2 6-B calcs
2 7-B feats
One 6-C feat
3 MHS+ feats
1 Sub Relativistic feat
possibly 1 Relativistic feat

 

[speedster352]

Yeah we just need to flesh out feats

Like we have 2 6-B calcs
2 7-B feats
One 6-C feat
3 MHS+ feats
1 Sub Relativistic feat
possibly 1 Relativistic feat

What is the other 6b calc? Have you found anything impressive in nnt or 4koa?

 

[speedster352]

Yeah we just need to flesh out feats

Like we have 2 6-B calcs
2 7-B feats
One 6-C feat
3 MHS+ feats
1 Sub Relativistic feat
possibly 1 Relativistic feat

Thoughts on this calc?

 

[speedster352]

Yeah we just need to flesh out feats

Like we have 2 6-B calcs
2 7-B feats
One 6-C feat
3 MHS+ feats
1 Sub Relativistic feat
possibly 1 Relativistic feat

Let's use 1,000 m as a lower bound and 2,000 m as a higher bound, with 1,500 m as a mid-end. For each possible altitude, I'll assume Estarossa was dropped into the middle of the Ocean, as they are clearly not at the edge of the dimension. I will also be assuming the ocean is a square, and for depth I will use the average depth of the ocean IRL, which according to google is 12,100 feet or 3,688 meters.

VALUES/CALCULATORS



1 cubic meter = 1,000,000 cubic centimeters

Density of salt water: 1.027 g/cm3

: 18 g/mol

285830 J/mol



Not exactly gonna use proper sig figs for everything but the end result isn't affected because the scale is so big.

LOW END

Horizon Calculator for 1,000 m altitude gives the distance to horizon 112.9 km.

Multiply by two assuming Estarossa dropped into the middle of the Ocean:

Volume of ocean = 225800m * 225800m * 3688m = 1.88e14 cubic meters

Volume of ocean = 1.88e20 cubic centimeters

Mass = (1.88e20 cm3)(1.027 g/cm3) = 1.93e20 g

Moles = (1.93e20 g)/(18 g/mol) = 1.07e19 mol

Joules = (1.07e19 mol)(285800 J/mol) = 3.06e24 J

3.06e24 J = 731,357,552,581,262 tons of tnt = 731 teratons

LOW END ASSUMING ESTAROSSA IS AT THE EDGE: Divide the end result by 4, which gives ~183 teratons

MID END

Horizon Calculator for 1,500 m altitude gives the distance to horizon 138.3 km.

Multiply by two assuming Estarossa dropped into the middle of the Ocean:

Volume of ocean = 276600m * 276600m * 3688m = 2.82e14 cubic meters

Volume of ocean = 2.82e20 cubic centimeters

Mass = (2.82e20 cm3)(1.027 g/cm3) = 2.90e20 g

Moles = (2.90e20 g)/(18 g/mol) = 1.61e19 mol

Joules = (1.61e19 mol)(285800 J/mol) = 4.60e24 J

4.60e24 J = 1,099,426,386,233,269.5 tons of tnt = 1.1 petatons

MID END ASSUMING ESTAROSSA IS AT THE EDGE: ~275 teratons

HIGH END

Horizon Calculator for 2,000 m altitude gives the distance to horizon 159.7 km.

Multiply by two assuming Estarossa dropped into the middle of the Ocean:

Volume of ocean = 319400m * 319400m * 3688m = 3.76e14 cubic meters

Volume of ocean = 3.76e20 cubic centimeters

Mass = (3.76e20 cm3)(1.027 g/cm3) = 3.86e20 g

Moles = (3.86e20 g)/(18 g/mol) = 2.15e19 mol

Joules = (2.15e19 mol)(285800 J/mol) = 6.13e24 J

6.13e24 J = 1,465,105,162,523,900.5 tons of tnt = 1.47 petatons

HIGH END ASSUMING ESTAROSSA IS AT THE EDGE: ~368 teratons

 

[Majinere566]

What is the other 6b calc? Have you found anything impressive in nnt or 4koa?

King's Sunflower

Impressive speed feats in 4kota. No Good ap feats so far

 

[Majinere566]

Bruh

 

[speedster352]

King's Sunflower

Impressive speed feats in 4kota. No Good ap feats so far

Can you link it?

 

[Majinere566]

Can you link it?

King's Sunflower Recalculation

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[speedster352]

King's Sunflower Recalculation

vsbattles.fandom.com

Not really impressive did you find anything else impressive in nnt and 4koa?

 

[ByAsura]

Thoughts on this calc?

This was debunked a long time ago.