Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

[Makai641001]

Enchant hellblaze is just the name it’s not different from normal hellblaze since it’s still destroyed type

I Also think « enchant » isn’t about it being enchantment type both destroyer type and enchanter type enchantments Can exist and as long as one Is composed of dark energy/darkness it should be regarded as Destroyer type (It cannot be enchanter anyway)

 

[Majinere566]

It is enchantment tho

 

[speedster352]

It is enchantment tho

Dude makai showed proof that hellblaze is dark energy or darkness. Anyway when byashura is free he can apply the upgrades and changes from makai crt.

 

[Majinere566]

Dude makai showed proof that hellblaze is dark energy or darkness.

So? Its not like I disagreed with it not being darkness

 

[Zezu1995]

tbh i feel we should say dark energy is just another power source which both hell blaze and darkness use

 

[Makai641001]

It is enchantment tho

Both are about the action of enchanting a weapon

Enchanting a weapon with enchanter type < Destroyer type

 

[Makai641001]

tbh i feel we should say dark energy is just another power source which both hell blaze and darkness use

In fact the exact japanese term Is Darkness for Both

Both the cage and flames are « darkness/darkness power »

 

[Majinere566]

Both are about the action of enchanting a weapon

Enchanting a weapon with enchanter type < Destroyer type

Darkness is destroyer type and iirc you can have more than 2 types

 

[Makai641001]

Darkness is destroyer type and iirc you can have more than 2 types

Yeah Therefore something that is made out of darkness Is destroyer type no matter what it’s name Is « enchant Hellblaze » isn’t enchanter type just cuz it’s name Is like this

 

[ByAsura]

Work was cancelled, so I'll try getting the stuff done.

Enchant hellblaze is just the name it’s not different from normal hellblaze since it’s still destroyed type

Who says it's just the name? It's called enchantment and gets imbued, so it's an enchanter.

 

[Makai641001]

Work was cancelled, so I'll try getting the stuff done.

Who says it's just the name? It's called enchantment and gets imbued, so it's an enchanter.

Hi, good news

Do you have the panels for Gelda’s sealing ?

 

[speedster352]

Work was cancelled, so I'll try getting the stuff done.

Who says it's just the name? It's called enchantment and gets imbued, so it's an enchanter.

The sandbox and the ap upgrades? And makai crt? It’s just the name it’s still just plane hellblaze.

 

[Majinere566]

Yeah Therefore something that is made out of darkness Is destroyer type no matter what it’s name Is « enchant Hellblaze » isn’t enchanter type just cuz it’s name Is like this

I don't know if I'm misunderstanding you or the other way around but what I'm saying that Enchant Hellblaze is Destroyer Type not Enchanter

 

[Makai641001]

Who says it's just the name? It's called enchantment and gets imbued, so it's an enchanter.

Enchanter type can’t use Darkness though iirc

 

[speedster352]

Work was cancelled, so I'll try getting the stuff done.

Who says it's just the name? It's called enchantment and gets imbued, so it's an enchanter.

How long would it take hypothetically to get everything done? The sooner it’s done the sooner I leave.

 

[ByAsura]

Do you have the panels for Gelda’s sealing ?

Zeldris, or Meliodas?

Here's a few for both.

The sandbox and the ap upgrades?

Yes.

And makai crt?

Later.

It’s just the name it’s still just plane hellblaze.

Not taking your word for that.

How long would it take hypothetically to get everything done? The sooner it’s done the sooner I leave.

Idk.

 

[Makai641001]

I don't know if I'm misunderstanding you or the other way around but what I'm saying that Enchant Hellblaze is Destroyer Type not Enchanter

I agree with you then

Zeldris, or Meliodas?

Here's a few for both.

Yes.

Later.

Not taking your word for that.

Idk.

thanks for the panels

 

[ByAsura]

Here's also Meliodas unsealing her from a cocoon.

 

[Zezu1995]

Here's also Meliodas unsealing her from a cocoon.

i really wish they used sealing more tbh

 

[speedster352]

Here's also Meliodas unsealing her from a cocoon.

Anyway can you show me the example? So hypothetically what would the scaling chain look like with enchantment multipliers.

 

[Makai641001]

i really wish they used sealing more tbh

Yeah it would be great

 

[ByAsura]

Anyway can you show me the example? So hypothetically what would the scaling chain look like with enchantment multipliers.

What example?

Edit: Oh right, the Hellblaze thing. I'll be a minute, I'm just looking for something else.

i really wish they used sealing more tbh

On this note, I always had this misconception that sealing wasn't combat applicable, but Zeldris almost certainly sealed the entire vampire clan without their consent.

 

[ByAsura]

This might work as an example (what he did to Ban, not the Dale thing).

 

[Makai641001]

What example?

Edit: Oh right, the Hellblaze thing. I'll be a minute, I'm just looking for something else.

On this note, I always had this misconception that sealing wasn't combat applicable, but Zeldris almost certainly sealed the entire vampire clan without their consent.

That’s what I said the last time non combat applicable sealing was brought up in a vs thread

 

[Makai641001]

This might work as an example (what he did to Ban, not the Dale thing).

If you have anything regarding Ark rotting away magic Go to the downgrade thread and talk about it
They said this Is talking about demon magic Not magic in general.

If We can’t find anything Ark will be downgraded to Limited Power Null (Only null demon magic)

 

[ByAsura]

Did you bring up that miasma technically isn't even magic?

Edit: You did, so I have nothing really to say.

 

[Makai641001]

Did you bring up that miasma technically isn't even magic?

Edit: You did, so I have nothing really to say.

I did cuz Im a genius muahahah
That’s mid that the author didn’t state anything about this.

I still think that the author stated Magic Not demon magic for a good reason

 

[Majinere566]

Question, are we not giving Corand Arc Assault Mode Meliodas High 6-B rating with Enchantment?

Actually might **** up the scaling like Original Demon being 6-A(would be nice tho)

 

[ByAsura]

With Destroyer.

It wouldn't, since OG Demon doesn't scale to Destroyer Mel without using Destroyer magic.

 

[Majinere566]

But how is the Meliodas that performed the enchantment feat not scaling to it?

 

[ByAsura]

I just said he does.

I'm not really getting your meaning here.

 

[Majinere566]

I swear I saw you just say only Prime Meliodas scales to this

I'm trippin my fault

 

[Majinere566]

If Prime Meliodas scales to it, then wouldn't True Body Ludociel and Elizabeth also scales since they have a statement of being equal to him?

If they do scale, then indura monspeet and derieri would scale since they dominated True body Ludociel. The Indura of favor might also scale since iirc there's a statement of it being the strongest indura.

 

[ByAsura]

Prime Assault Mode Meliodas scales to it, not 2nd Mark.

I don't think the statement actually suggests they're equal in raw power, since 2nd Mark and Elizabeth were demonstrably superior to Ludoshel.

 

[Majinere566]

Oh okay makes sense. Also sorry I've been busy and could not really complete the enchantment list

 

[ByAsura]

That's fine.

 

[Majinere566]

Why don't we scale Derrieri and Monspeet to Tarmiel?

 

[Zezu1995]

Why don't we scale Derrieri and Monspeet to Tarmiel?

truth be told only induras scale imo cuz tarmiel literally cant be harmed by physical power so we shouldnt include that BUT deri did overpower sariel so theres that part

 

[Majinere566]

truth be told only induras scale imo cuz tarmiel literally cant be harmed by physical power so we shouldnt include that BUT deri did overpower sariel so theres that part

Induras scale way above but when is it stated that he can't be harmed by physical power?

Also just to put this out here, derieri is also capable of bruising Goddess Elizabeth

 

[Zezu1995]

Induras scale way above but when is it stated that he can't be harmed by physical power?

Also just to put this out here, derieri is also capable of bruising Goddess Elizabeth

tarmiel has never been injured by physical power without hax.. everytime someone attacks him physically he reforms or liquifies . esta bypassed that via darkness making him tangible

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