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Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

I'm not a fan of it in general for this arc, but I don't recall any contradictions.
 
Okay so let's say if Grey Demon Hendrickson is 5.8 Gigatons via upscaling from his enchantment and a 2× amp

Wouldn't it makes sense that Revenge Counter Meliodas would be at least 21.3 Gigatons via being 30× weaker than the one he used against The Ten Commandments?
 
He still has no reason to. Maybe the enchantment at best, but he's already more than 2x stronger anyway via statements and Gilthunder scaling.

No, because even base Unsealed Meliodas surpasses that value.

Honestly, the statement never made any sense.
  • The fodder skeletons the Sins could one-shot en masse during the Corand arc were far superior to Ban.
  • Our existing Demon multipliers would already make up a huge portion of the value, since base Meliodas/Galand >> Hendrickson, Matrona, King w/Form One.
  • Ban could effortlessly absorb power from Diane and Orlondi simultaneously, but was only a bit stronger than 1/2 Galand with over half his power + his own initial strength + strength from other characters.
  • Characters who are afraid of fighting the combined Ten Commandments change the balance of entire clans.
Like, when you stack this stuff together, it really doesn't make much sense that Holy Knights + the BoS Sins are even remotely close.
 
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ByAsura said:
Ban being able to absorb power from Diane and Orlondi simultaneously, but was only a bit stronger than 1/2 Galand with over half his power + his own initial strength + strength from other characters.
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Doesn't it was state that he can't absorb enemy that far stronger than himself more than 50% due his body capacity?
 
He can absorb the power of enemies far stronger than himself, like Meliodas.

My point was that the cap of just half Galand's power is so far superior to his own strength, despite him being one of the people in the Revenge Counter and scaling to a large portion of their strength.

Then, you stack that up with other multipliers and stuff.
 
ByAsura said:
He can absorb the power of enemies far stronger than himself, like Meliodas.

My point was that the cap of just half Galand's power is so far superior to his own strength, despite him being one of the people in the Revenge Counter and scaling to a large portion of their strength.

Then, you stack that up with other multipliers and stuff.
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How life any luck with the crt?
 
speedster352 said:
Arthur should get subjective reality since he can create things from his and other peoples thoughts and dreams(Jericho for example) chaos and cath too possibly
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I’ll wait for his power to be developped further to avoid wanks


speedster352 said:
Thoughts?
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Game mechanics but nice to see


ByAsura said:
Not saying he doesn't have Enchantment Hellblaze, I'm saying he didn't use Darkness amps.
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isn’t Hellblaze darkness based tho?


ByAsura said:
He still has no reason to. Maybe the enchantment at best, but he's already more than 2x stronger anyway via statements and Gilthunder scaling.

No, because even base Unsealed Meliodas surpasses that value.

Honestly, the statement never made any sense.
  • The fodder skeletons the Sins could one-shot en masse during the Corand arc were far superior to Ban.
  • Our existing Demon multipliers would already make up a huge portion of the value, since base Meliodas/Galand >> Hendrickson, Matrona, King w/Form One.
  • Ban could effortlessly absorb power from Diane and Orlondi simultaneously, but was only a bit stronger than 1/2 Galand with over half his power + his own initial strength + strength from other characters.
  • Characters who are afraid of fighting the combined Ten Commandments change the balance of entire clans.
Like, when you stack this stuff together, it really doesn't make much sense that Holy Knights + the BoS Sins are even remotely close.
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i like how you used a french word there for no reason 😹
 
soo first it was this in chapter 48, then the guy used a AOE attack inside perfect cube and asked why it didnt blow lance away.
edit- they said his fox form makes it hard to hit him but that dont make sense for perfect cube aoe
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then
 
ByAsura said:
Nothing suggests Hellblaze is darkness-related, and it's only shown as Enchanter.
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It’s demonic power of darkness
Hellblaze is a dark power connected to the darkness of the Demon Realm. It allows the user to generate and control black flames that cannot be extinguished. In addition to its immensely devastating power, the flames also nullify any regenerative abilities including that of an immortal.
 
ByAsura said:
That's just a copy-paste from the wiki, which is completely unsourced.

Give evidence that it's darkness.
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Ask makai and stuff it’s literally a dark power connected to the demon race.
Here are the sources
  1. Chapter 56 , Page 14
  2. ↑ Chapter 81 , Page 17
  3. ↑ Chapter 260 , Page 16
  4. ↑ Chapter 215 , Page 10
  5. ↑ Side Story 4, Question Corner Q209, page 27
  6. ↑ Chapter 297
  7. ↑ Chapter 71 (4KOA)
  8. ↑ Chapter 81
  9. ↑ Chapter 318 , Page 8
  10. ↑ Nanatsu no Taizai Movie: Cursed by Light
  11. ↑ Chapter 75 , Page 16-17
  12. ↑ Chapter 262 , Page 7-8
  13. ↑ Chapter 297 , Page 11
  14. ↑ Nanatsu no Taizai Movie: Cursed by Light
 
You're literally just copy-pasting the sources from the entire page that have nothing to do with the quote. I was saying that the claim you're talking about itself is unsourced.

Ok, @Makai64100 Speed is claiming that you have evidence of darkness being connected to Hellblaze. Is this true?
 
Waillo is weaker than Dreyfus physically, but stronger than Gilthunder/Hendrickson/Howzer, who are stronger Guila, who can withstand attacks from the Sins and put herself in a near-death state with a heart punch.

Basically, it doesn't surprise me that he could knock out Dreyfus, despite being a fair bit inferior (weaker than Ban).
 
Oh Clover btw according to KLOL, Parrying two simultaneous physical attacks will grant a 2x to LS instead. Does that apply to Licht or does the fact that he got disarmed in the process of blocking the attacks make him not to scale.
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No, it means that pushing against 2 equal people pushing at once will grant a 2x to LS, not countering AP with AP providing 2x lifting
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Does this applicable to Elizabeth 2x LS due pushing induras?

Also and for demon king, since his lifting strength (crushing) based on his magic stage and he evolving three stage by absorbing magic lake does that mean he will have 3 times LS multiplier?

Iirc some one piece character also does has multiplier LS
 
Majinere566 said:
Okay here's a list I complied for season 1. I avoided using Gilthunder due to inconsistency.


(Potentially)- A Knight from Slader's Group seems to encase his arrow with his magic although it looks like it loses it's enchantment after gowther catches it(chapter 54)


(Potentially)- Helbram receives an amp via link which then encases his body and sword with magic but after that it's not seen on his sword or body (chapter 74)

Hendrickson's Enchanted Sword in Chapter 80 and later backed up by it being called Enchant Hellblaze in chapter 81

Red Demon Blood Hendrickson infuses darkness to his blade (Chapter 88)


Season 2:

King uses a sacred treasure release (chapter 118)

Beserk Meliodas uses darkness on Lostvayne (chapter 121)

Don't know if this counts but I'll just put it in here(chapter 133)

King seems like he's encasing his increase with magic (chapter166)

Gloxina (chapter 172&175)

Estarossa (Chapter 177)

Zaratras (192)
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Updated the list
 
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