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Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

Aether_ said:
I think could be at echanment level tristan,
If i was not wrong
Base tristan = vessel tarmiel (20.5 teratons)
Echanment type amp 3 times so (61.5 teratons)
But this even echanment type significantly still under demon mark tristan power
(123 teratons)

with recent chapter we know demon mark tristan can stomp snake melascula even meland. So definitely i think there's no way to put meland in same level demon mark tristan.

Meland definitely fodder at this time
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That was a rage amp demon mark Tristan and the demon clan get stronger with the rage.
 
speedster352 said:
Hendrickson commended Meliodas for surviving his dark nebula
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speedster352 said:
That's what durabilty is lol also How's life mate?
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It's durability, but it proves attacks twice as strong as Meliodas can severely injure him. You don't need durability as strong as someone's ap not to be killed by them.

He's just commending Meliodas for surviving. Not really grounds for 1:1 scaling.
 
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ByAsura said:
It's durability, but it proves attacks twice as strong as Meliodas can severely injure him. You don't need durability as strong as someone's ap not to be killed by them.

He's just commending Meliodas for surviving. Not really grounds for 1:1 scaling.
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Nah he still took hits from Demon Hendrickson and Hendrickson considered him a treat and proceeded to use full power. Also tomorrow is Sunday when is it dropping?
 
speedster352 said:
Nah he still took hits from Demon Hendrickson and Hendrickson considered him a treat and proceeded to use full power.
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That's a very half-assed response. The fact are that he was demonstrably far less durable and severely damaged until getting a rage amp (even then, he still took a ton of damage), at which point Hendrickson had already been blasted by holy magic.

Hendrickson literally didn't consider him a threat at ******* all, so I genuinely have no idea what you're on about. He didn't even think Meliodas had Full Counter, and none of the Sins (except Snatch and Demon Mark) could actually damage him.
speedster352 said:
Also tomorrow is Sunday when is it dropping?
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Idk the specific time.
 
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Why are you using 609 metres? There's literally trees and a house that show this can't possibly be more than like 20.

My calculation here is a far different example because there's nothing contradicting that size.
 
ByAsura said:
Why are you using 609 metres? There's literally trees and a house that show this can't possibly be more than like 20.
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they lived at the foot of the mountains to be able to farm, what the demon king compressed was the distant mountain behind them. even after compressed, the background really shows that it's completely empty after being destroyed behind the those tree
 
ByAsura said:
No he didn't. Look at the treeline, my guy. They live in an area with a ton of slopes and mountains well into the background.
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Doesn't it just same as i said?
ByAsura said:
Literally just look at the widths of the trees compared to the house.
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ByAsura said:
You can even see branches somewhat comparable in size to the entire crater.
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I mean before the calc showing result of crush mountain not size of circular.
It's more got supporting feats by the statement of the farmers the mountains was dissapear that mean it's further behind, kind a doesn't make if he state the mountain was gone but only his house and three behind was destroyed.
 
I wouldn't care even if he said 'th...the planet...!', I still wouldn't accept this. It's so insanely obvious that he only crushed the little tiny bit of land that their house was on, not anything the size of a mountain.

Genuinely just look at this panel. The couple are standing in front of a tiny little plot that's the exact same shape as the crater crush, and you can see the exact same trees.

You can even see tree roots inside the crater and tiny ass shrubbery besides it.
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Hell, in the next panel you can see flowers on the crater line.

Your calc is completely wrong, whether or not this can actually be considered a mountain. I'm sorry to say it, as I want Class P as well, but I don't want it via obviously wrong calculations.
 
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Btw btw, last before anything get clear
Do we have multiplier for every single commandment estarossa absorb?
I've seen it pretty consistent his power growing multiple times
Like
•Base estarossa/1 commandments = half power of both sariel and tarmiel that even can stomp him
•2 commandment estarossa already can harm of vessel sariel and tarmiel while before can't
•3 commandment starting can ovepowering both vessel and push back and comparable to their original form
•4 commandment already can one shot of sariel and tarmiel
 
3C scales to their true forms, so that's a 2x multiplier from before.

4C is just much stronger than them, and can one-shot their weakened states.
 
ByAsura said:
That's a very half-assed response. The fact are that he was demonstrably far less durable and severely damaged until getting a rage amp (even then, he still took a ton of damage), at which point Hendrickson had already been blasted by holy magic.

Hendrickson literally didn't consider him a threat at ******* all, so I genuinely have no idea what you're on about. He didn't even think Meliodas had Full Counter, and none of the Sins (except Snatch and Demon Mark) could actually damage him.

Idk the specific time.
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Hendrickson said that while preparing to kill Meliodas with dead end
 
He called him a dangerous entity, before outright preparing to one-shot Meliodas after crippling him to the point of collapse.

Hendy never said Meliodas was a threat, and this scene outright proves that Meliodas is far inferior to him.
 
ByAsura said:
He called him a dangerous entity, before outright preparing to one-shot Meliodas after crippling him to the point of collapse.

Hendy never said Meliodas was a threat, and this scene outright proves that Meliodas is far inferior to him.
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www.merriam-webster.com

Definition of DANGEROUS

involving possible injury, pain, harm, or loss : characterized by danger; able or likely to inflict injury or harm… See the full definition
www.merriam-webster.com www.merriam-webster.com
 
Yeah, I know the definition of dangerous. The thing is that calling someone a dangerous person doesn't actually have to mean (and usually doesn't) that they endanger you personally.
 
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ByAsura said:
That's a very half-assed response. The fact are that he was demonstrably far less durable and severely damaged until getting a rage amp (even then, he still took a ton of damage), at which point Hendrickson had already been blasted by holy magic.

Hendrickson literally didn't consider him a threat at ******* all, so I genuinely have no idea what you're on about. He didn't even think Meliodas had Full Counter, and none of the Sins (except Snatch and Demon Mark) could actually damage him.

Idk the specific time.
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Why are you getting worked up? Are you temperamental? Anyway how's life?
 
ByAsura said:
Yeah, I know the definition of dangerous. The thing is that calling someone a dangerous person doesn't actually have to mean (and usually doesn't) that they endanger you personally.
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Who else was he referring to? Also Meliodas still took hits from Hendrickson way better than the holy knights and survived full power Hendrickson dark nebula which oneshotted everyone.
 
speedster352 said:
Who else was he referring to?
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The fact that he's stronger than literally 99% of characters in the series by that point.
speedster352 said:
Also Meliodas still took hits from Hendrickson way better than the holy knights
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Who are mostly fodder. Plus, Gilthunder was already knocked out.
speedster352 said:
and survived full power Hendrickson dark nebula which oneshotted everyone.
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A) for the last time, not getting killed by something doesn't make him equal to it.

B) Meliodas was at the very edge of the blast range (after Hendrickson literally tossed him away with his peck muscle alone, mind you). Only his back got hit.
 
ByAsura said:
The fact that he's stronger than literally 99% of characters in the series by that point.

Who are mostly fodder. Plus, Gilthunder was already knocked out.

A) for the last time, not getting killed by something doesn't make him equal to it.

B) Meliodas was at the very edge of the blast range (after Hendrickson literally tossed him away with his peck muscle alone, mind you). Only his back got hit.
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Hendrickson still commended him and called him dangerous at this point just put likely higher for his durability
 
You're just repeating yourself.

Anyway, let's just review the logical conclusion of your claims here. Meliodas is a danger to Hendrickson by being durable?
 
Firstly, that's not durability. That's endurance.

Secondly, it's explicitly mentioned that Meliodas became good as new after the punch.

Why do you even want this rating so bad. It literally does nothing. Is this for versus matches?
 
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Way weaker as in 1/2th Meliodas.

Speaking of trolling, something kind of popped up. I literally have to go to another city until Wednesday morning in just a few hours.

I won't even be on the internet, let alone VSBW, so the scaling chain + the destroyer enchanter stuff + some other new shit will have to wait until then.

Good night.
 
ByAsura said:
Way weaker as in 1/2th Meliodas.

Speaking of trolling, I literally have to go to another city until Wednesday morning in just a few hours.

I won't even be on the internet, let alone VSBW, so the scaling chain + the destroyer enchanter stuff + some other new shit will have to wait until then.

Good night.
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So it's not dropping today? cliche I was just trying to make sense of Meliodas scaling to albion for taking hits from taking hits from Hendricksons
 
ByAsura said:
Way weaker as in 1/2th Meliodas.

Speaking of trolling, something kind of popped up. I literally have to go to another city until Wednesday morning in just a few hours.

I won't even be on the internet, let alone VSBW, so the scaling chain + the destroyer enchanter stuff + some other new shit will have to wait until then.

Good night.
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Also I lost my trust and support in you
 
speedster352 said:
So it's not dropping today? cliche I was just trying to make sense of Meliodas scaling to albion for taking hits from taking hits from Hendricksons
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I was just trying to tell you that there doesn't need to be any sense made of it.
speedster352 said:
I was literally asking a question Any byashura delays the scaling chain on purpose and I am the one trolling?
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It's not actually trolling, bruh. It's literally 'I have to go to another city at random. I won't even be on the internet'.
speedster352 said:
Also I lost my trust and support in you
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From the way you've spoken to me for months, I sincerely doubt that just happened now.

Also, this is a wiki and we don't really know each other, so I really never had any trust and support in you. This doesn't affect me at all.
 
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speedster352 said:
Can you stop with that? I was literally asking a question Any byashura delays the scaling chain on purpose and I am the one trolling?
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speedster352 said:
Also I lost my trust and support in you
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Lmao

Good job losing your trust on literally the only person that is helping to get what you want 😭

And yes I am inclined to believe you are trolling the way you purposefully ignore arguments and rinse and repeat your already defeated arguments
 
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