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Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread
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speedster352
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What about a hundred then?
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It's probably still not country level and i don't think that's how it works. Ask the calc guys tho.
speedster352
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Okay, I just wait for another feat. We need to work together to bring NNT back to country level.
Rabbit2002
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I prefer planet or multi-continent to country level
speedster352
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Nakaba has to make a planet blow up for that to happen
speedster352
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He could let meliodas destroy the celestial realm I mean no one is there currently
speedster352
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We all agree natsu and asta can't beat the seven deadly ins on a 1v7
speedster352
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https://vsbattles.com/threads/goddesses-and-demon-clan-physiology.128355/ Here a new thread I made
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The funny thing is that instead of calcing the clouds mael dispered, calculate the clouds the og demon pulled, hell why isn't that even a calculated feat?
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I thought that was for the mael calc downgrade which i disagree with but it don't matter... i'm not that good at cloud calculations but i did the feat myself before and got country level vlalues via kinetic energy
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Also what happened to the new amp introduced in 4kota?? why aren't we using it??
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Because it's a recton ( actually i don't really know why ) but mitch and everyone agree with it
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So they just agreed it's a retcon for no reason? plus idk not all retcons are inherently a bad thing but they just agreeing without a reason why just seems weird
Rabbit2002
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Not really, because it's new for the old serie and i don't know why something new in a 4kota cannot use in nnt
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No, it's because such a thing literally never happens in NNT. Even energy amped swords didn't change combat much until 4KotA.
The Mael calc downgrade only halved the Large Country level result to Country level, and then we removed it entirely in another CRT.
It was for the energy of the storm itself.
The Mael calc downgrade only halved the Large Country level result to Country level, and then we removed it entirely in another CRT.
speedster352
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Why?
Lormac_CC
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Inconsistency due to Nakaba
speedster352
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We just have to wait till an NNT character blows up a planet or country then.
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we only using it for 4KOA scaling not NNT .. i also agreed with this since it would just **** up alot of things... but we can always scale NNT to 4KOA anyways so its fine
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Examples?
Lormac_CC
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Just saw this, why
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Yeah no take for example King went from struggling against an albion to one shotting it after a magic infused chasteifol strike, there's probably other instances i cannot remember but anyways wym that it never happened? There's numerous instances where magic is infused with a weapon and it is now getting a quantified amp...
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But what issues is it bringing??
speedster352
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Check out the new crt I made https://vsbattles.com/threads/goddesses-and-demon-clan-physiology.128355/#post-4340756
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iirc they said it was scaling issues, its like 1-2 pages before this one or maybe all the way to the top
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That wasn't a different type of magic, just a different form of the Spirit Spear.
Take Gilthunder, for example, who infuses his sword with magic and it changes nothing.
You say you can't remember, and yet you also say there's numerous instances.
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tbh ... both NNT and 4KOA are the same verse ... so in a way i get that it will or might cause some scaling issues , we should/can still use the magic types.
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We should use the amp for anyone that has actually received such an amp.
Does it make sense to increase half of Meliodas' ratings 10-fold just because someone used darkness or lightning? No, because they weren't increasing their weapons' power 5 or 10-fold when that chapter came out, and it most likely leads to really non-sensical upscaling.
For example, if Meliodas fought Zeldris while he was amping his blade, is Meliodas 10x stronger than Zeldris?
Does it make sense to increase half of Meliodas' ratings 10-fold just because someone used darkness or lightning? No, because they weren't increasing their weapons' power 5 or 10-fold when that chapter came out, and it most likely leads to really non-sensical upscaling.
For example, if Meliodas fought Zeldris while he was amping his blade, is Meliodas 10x stronger than Zeldris?
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Never said it was all i asserted was that he infuses his magic with the Spirit Spear
Most of the times he's shown amping his weapon with his magic he's fighting against meliodas who is a sin, unironically there is a statement that states the difference between a holy knight and a sin is a 10x difference and in his showings he's relative to meliodas mostly with his magically infused weapon which makes the 10x magic weapon amp all the more consistent if you ask me.
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Yes because as stated in the canon sequel where magic has not changed that an enchanted magical weapon is 10x amp if it's a destroyer type which both qualify for.
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Which he always does. It's just a completely different form to what he usually uses, and that's all there is to it.
Edit: Looked into it, and it can't even classified as Destructive Magic. It's power drawn from the Sacred Tree to release its true form.
He fights him just as well without amping his weapon. We went over this a while ago and you completely failed to address it.
Also, that's your average Holy Knight, not someone like Gilthunder (a diamond rank), Howzer, Hendrickson, Vivian, Helbram (Knight form) or Dreyfus, most of whom are Great Holy Knights and can at least fend off the sins with their Sacred Treasure-like weapons. That's not even going into your sub-factions like the Weird Fangs, whose leader (Slader) is a Diamond-Rank with physical strength on par with Ban.
No, because it's a non-sensical retcon.
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Rabbit2002
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Should we wait for more infor about type magic ?
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Not really He only uses it when he's using a sacred treasure release which is shown to be stronger than the base chastiefol. So he is amping it but before it was unknown how much he is amping his chastiefol
I don't think i claimed that it was destruction type and if i didn't clear it up my bad but i'm arguing about the enchanting weapon amp in general so king isn't destruction magic
Instances shown because i just re read their fight and majority of the time he is amping his sword with lightning just to match meliodas during their first encounter (Meliodas holding back) and while he was getting 3v1 and meliodas still holding his own
It isn't really a non-sensical retcon...
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