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Fairy Tail: Spriggans Scaling to Etherion
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Guys, what we're trying to convey is that Etherion is like a specific type of weapon that is meant to have set number of power, which everyone else in the verse also does. Like Etherion isn't as broad as a "Nuke", it's a very specific type of weapon.
Like Etherion is as specific as "AK-47", it's a specific type of weapon that has a generalized and similar power output
Like you would be right in thinking that one AK-47 has around the same power as another AK-47 right?
That's exactly what we're all trying to say about Etherion. The set power for Etherion is that it has the power to destroy a country, which is stated 4 times. So Wall using his own "Etherion" would also mean that it should be capable of the same power.
Like Etherion is as specific as "AK-47", it's a specific type of weapon that has a generalized and similar power output
Like you would be right in thinking that one AK-47 has around the same power as another AK-47 right?
That's exactly what we're all trying to say about Etherion. The set power for Etherion is that it has the power to destroy a country, which is stated 4 times. So Wall using his own "Etherion" would also mean that it should be capable of the same power.
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It’s not. Are y’all not getting the example?
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I explained it offsite and I will explain it here.
One technique has a stated power level.
The other one canonically varies between users, and heck, it varies inbetween a single user.
Rasengans are techniques with similar mechanics but different power outputs.
Etherion is a weapon with a specific yield.
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That’s still pure assumption for FT part. It’s literally Wahl making the cannon but not knowing if the power is EXACTLY like it
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So you have no proof for the contrary? Alright, thank you.
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It's the same single weapon. There isn't another thing known as Etherion within the Fairy Tail world.
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And no proof that it’s as powerful as the other? Alright, thank you.
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Read the thread and you'll see it.
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I know that, but we don’t even know again if Wahl’s cannon is inferior to the other. Just know that he made the same replica of it
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It's the same weapon, not a replica, but the very same Etherion. There's no "it's inferior" because it's the exact same thing.
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It makes less sense and requires far more assumptions to treat Wall's Etherion as if it were not the same power as the Council's Etherion
I mean the idea "Well it may not be weaker than the Council's Etherion" is just as invalid as the statement that "Well it may be stronger than the Council's Etherion"
In general, the thing that makes sense is to assume they are equal and since the Spriggans are relative to each other, the others would reasonably backscale from Etherion
I mean the idea "Well it may not be weaker than the Council's Etherion" is just as invalid as the statement that "Well it may be stronger than the Council's Etherion"
In general, the thing that makes sense is to assume they are equal and since the Spriggans are relative to each other, the others would reasonably backscale from Etherion
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Where was this stated at?
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READ THE THREAD
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I dunno why you keep saying this when it didn’t work any other time. Definition of insanity.
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hoping this doesn't become several pages longer while I'm asleep.
Got some proposals/comments.
Got some proposals/comments.
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Seems simple enough to accept at a glance unless I'm missing something.
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While I do understand where Damage is coming from and agree with some of it, based on the evidence presented I have to agree with the CRT atm, imo there's enough evidence here to scale the Spriggans to Etherion.
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Because it's what he's gotta do man
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I would be against it if I didn't see the visual of wahls etherion that quite literally looks like the same exact thing. I do agree stuff in this thread isn't solid but its more so supporting shit. Aka brandish being a nation destroyer and wahl just so happen to have a nation destroying move. Its to make it not seem as outlandish cause I know if brandish straight up shrinked a country people wouldn't scale it to her ap at all. Even though its shown brandish ability is limited by magic power and increasing gajeel to massive size enough to fight a dragon clearly isn't beyond her magic power is capable of cause she quite literally did it
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I agree with these posts, though there are a few things, Wall didn’t really have his own etherion, just possessed a method that would give him an attack akin to Etherion, such as fusion reaction. Agree as well as Brandish scaling to Gajeel as it is her power that was supplying Gajeel‘s giant form, and considering that there is a time limit like any machine that runs on a limited fuel supply, and she immediately ties her feat with Gajeel to that of her title Nation Demolisher, as in that is not just a title alone.
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Ok, so I got my awesome friend to translate the original kanji of the statement when referring to Brandish and it translates as such
国崩しのブランディッシュ好戦的ではないが国をも崩すという魔力の持ち主
"Country Destroyer Brandish, while not belligerent, also holds the magical power to destroy the country"
So that's direct as hell that Brandish can destroy countries with her magic power and would support Spriggan Etherion scaling
国崩しのブランディッシュ好戦的ではないが国をも崩すという魔力の持ち主
"Country Destroyer Brandish, while not belligerent, also holds the magical power to destroy the country"
So that's direct as hell that Brandish can destroy countries with her magic power and would support Spriggan Etherion scaling
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Sounds very direct to me. Perfect support for Etherion scaling
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Oh God.Ok, so I got my awesome friend to translate the original kanji of the statement when referring to Brandish and it translates as such
国崩しのブランディッシュ好戦的ではないが国をも崩すという魔力の持ち主
"Country Destroyer Brandish, while not belligerent, also holds the magical power to destroy the country"
So that's direct as hell that Brandish can destroy countries with her magic power and would support Spriggan Etherion scaling
RIP Consistent and smooth scaling.
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consistent with the officialOk, so I got my awesome friend to translate the original kanji of the statement when referring to Brandish and it translates as such
国崩しのブランディッシュ好戦的ではないが国をも崩すという魔力の持ち主
"Country Destroyer Brandish, while not belligerent, also holds the magical power to destroy the country"
So that's direct as hell that Brandish can destroy countries with her magic power and would support Spriggan Etherion scaling
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what do you mean by that?consistent with the official
Also forgetting to add Irene’s Compression magic, which is stated to be reconstruction, considering the land is broken down to tiny bits of dirt and dust when activated.
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PrettyVixenGirl
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Think he's just saying its saying similar thing. But it's a good thing that statement exists as well as her gajeel feat
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Yeah this
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Pretty much, but it’s a preparation feat, so it doesn’t scale to Irene’s regular AP
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We could still list it even if it's not a regular feat.
Ars Magia ain't a regular feat yet we still list it.
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I don’t think my vote matters much, but I agree with the OP.
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What.... the only time Etherion is fired is at the tower of heaven.
It completely absorbed all the 270 million edea of magic power of the Etherion. How th is it supposed to destroy a country when the magic power has already been sucked up?
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