Fairy Tail: Spriggans Scaling to Etherion

[CloverDragon03]

Couldn’t that just be from her magic? Which isnt AP applicable iirc, unless I’m missing something

What everyone seems to miss is that this would be a more viable argument if not for the fact that it's stated that her magic power is capable of destroying a country.

 

[Damage3245]

What everyone seems to miss is that this would be a more viable argument if not for the fact that it's stated that her magic power is capable of destroying a country.

Destroying a country, without any other context, is not a High 6-A feat.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Destroying a country, without any other context, is not a High 6-A feat.

In the context of Ishgar, and Fairy Tail as a whole, yes it is. Even Fiore, which is one of the smallest countries on the continent, would yield High 6-A from its destruction.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

In the context of Ishgar, and Fairy Tail as a whole, yes it is. Even Fiore, which is one of the smallest countries on the continent, would yield High 6-A from its destruction.

Destroying Fiore is 6-A, but destroying most of the countries is High 6-A, yes

 

[CloverDragon03]

Destroying Fiore is 6-A, but destroying most of the countries is High 6-A, yes

Oh yeah, I forgot Fiore was 6-A. But yeah, when most of the countries' destruction yields High 6-A and an average case yields High 6-A, that's pretty blatant.

 

[Eseseso]

Couldn’t that just be from her magic? Which isnt AP applicable iirc, unless I’m missing something

They openly said "destroy" the country. Even if her main power is shrinking, they put that statement in for a reason.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I don't have time to read the entire thread, but the OP looks good to me from a glance.

 

[Eseseso]

Well now that changing size through hax is AP applicable, can we do some updated calcs for Universe One and Brandish shrinking the island.

Yes the latter would be fodder if this were accepted but I don't care.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Well now that changing size through hax is AP applicable, can we do some updated calcs for Universe One and Brandish shrinking the island.

Yes the latter would be fodder if this were accepted but I don't care.

Wrong thread for that

 

[Livinmeme]

I mean destroying something in a instant gives far higher results than destroying the thing should give example: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DMUA/Destroying_Tokyo

 

[PrettyVixenGirl]

Magic power is ap. The more of it you have the higher damage you can dish out. As well as take. Like someone said it said her magic power is enough to destroy a country.

August is nitpicking as his attack is technically more dangerous than etherion. Say someone like gildarts tanks etherion because he has a much higher magic power than wahl, would he survive ars magia? No he wouldn't because the nature of the two attacks is different. August's attack is more on the hax side etherion is just straight instant destruction which isn't an assured victory if said people have enough magic power to tank it. The moves aren't doing the same thing. Fundamentally. So him sacrificing himself to do the move doesn't mean he can only do country level shit at cost of his life, that move is more dangerous than etherion technically.

Wahl is not a high tier spriggan btw. He fought a weak laxus with lightning resistance and got one shot with red lightning. And he lost to minerva I believe in his historia. Whom is only base Spriggan tier at the absolute most. It also wouldn't make sense for him to casually have an attack that makes him way stronger than other spriggans. I don't even think they care about wahl.

 

[CNBA3]

Not too sure, probably not 6-A, but the point is that this "hax hax hax hax" excuse doesn't fly by anymore

it would make sense to try and scale from the kinetic energy of the object at least in mass change or movements.

 

[Eseseso]

@DemonGodMitchAubin , would you be able to do updated versions of the Universe One calc and the calc of Brandish shrinking an island?

And would it be possible for the Alvarez soldiers to scale to Baseline 7-A?

Because each Alvarez soldier >> X791 Dragons >>>> Laxus = 69 megatons (nice)

 

[CloverDragon03]

@DemonGodMitchAubin , would you be able to do updated versions of the Universe One calc and the calc of Brandish shrinking an island?

And would it be possible for the Alvarez soldiers to scale to Baseline 7-A?

Because each Alvarez soldier >> X791 Dragons >>>> Laxus = 69 megatons (nice)

No on the baseline 7-A thing. As for the calcs, let one thing happen at a time man.

 

[BlackeJan]

It’s still very much a country destroying statement that supports Etherion level Spriggans

Ok but there are characters in other series who are stared as such yet can’t nor seen to be able to do that and I see what Damage is saying. How does one think that just because someone can do a super attack that means all their other offense produce such caliber? and all we get is 1 think from him yet anything else he did beforehand ofc never did such

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Not sure why you are bringing up other series but as for why Wahl’s other attacks would back scale would be due to the fact that he charged it up for what? A page? And then was ready to pop off with a High 6-A laser. 10 or so seconds would have passed since he started until he was going to fire it which would still result in a comparable number.

 

[BlackeJan]

Not sure why you are bringing up other series but as for why Wahl’s other attacks would back scale would be due to the fact that he charged it up for what? A page? And then was ready to pop off with a High 6-A laser. 10 or so seconds would have passed since he started until he was going to fire it which would still result in a comparable number.

Because it’s the same how just because they have a title doesn’t mean they can do such a thing. I honestly wouldn’t care if Wahl got his Etherion cannon for a tier, but to not even know how strong it is + have it scale when that’s obviously an ultimate attack separated from his other skills says enough

 

[Elizhaa]

Proposals seem feasible, from what I read.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Dope, so that's 7 Staff, being DemonGodMitchAubin, CloverDragon03, KingTempest, SamanPatou, KLOL506, DarkDragonMedeus, and Elizhaa in favor of the OP and scaling Wall's Etherion to the Council's Etherion

I'll wait longer, but this seems to be concluded overall

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Does that overall mean they agree when they say that? Also i agree on the OP too since has more appealing arguments than the other

 

[PhoenixFirestorm]

I also agree with the OP. I think we got more reliable sources to determine Wall's having actual Etherion power. Considering he also is using his Magic Confinement Fusion to do that which Mashima said he was using a lot of energy.

 

[Damage3245]

I don't care about FT enough to carry on arguing against this much opposition for it. I'm just pointing out the scaling issues as I see them personally. Since more people disagree, that's fine and it can go on ahead.

 

[speedster352]

I agree

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Alright, this has been settled then, normally I would go ahead with revisions, but there's another important CRT I have to make first

But I will close this

 

[Nierre]

last.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

I am the last