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Everything Fire Brigade of Flames General Discussion Thread

Chapter 188 obi posing really made me chuckle. Hes truly one of my favorite characters
 
true, but do u know what also exists in adolla? tier 0 constructs. thats right. adolla > the tiering system
 
true, but do u know what also exists in adolla? tier 0 constructs. thats right. adolla > the tiering system
the tiering system is broken with the multiverse type 4.
all mathematical structures,all numbers,all geomtrical things,all of that exist in a type 4 multiverse,max tegmark is a maniac.
but mainly all the gods of human history is what makes adolla a more broken
 
true, but do u know what also exists in adolla? tier 0 constructs. thats right. adolla > the tiering system
That's not true there nothing indicating that. If anything I don't even think adolla contains concepts except itself. It was created by thoughts therefore evangelist and adolla are conceptual creations. Death in fire force wasn't created but manifested. And even then is death not a tier 0 concept nor universal it's hardly planetary. There is no such thing as a "universal, multiversal or boundless"concept. Death is just the same tier as love, love the same as birth.
 
AH I UNDERSTAND WHY BUGS ARE APART OF ADOLLA. Okay so bugs are from adolla, and when that specific type of bug comes in contact with a human a specific type of pyrokinesis is developed. Which causes SHC(spontaneous human combustion) this is most likely due to the fact that since they're normal humans and not a pillar or someone tied to adolla they instantly burn while merging with their doppleganger version of their selves.
So a person who is a pillar or tied with adolla(and doesn't get affected like arthur,shinra and dragon) should be unable to be turned into SHC. It makes sense why they needed sister sumerie to do it because shes a pillar and can use adolla to create the bugs. She brought demon dopplegangers so theres no mistake she can do that too. She even talked to the lady in the black.
 
Be like arthur and keep your priorities above everything
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Hes a monkey not a chimpanzee
@MonkeyOfLife He is calling you a fiend, fraud, disgusting, undeniable, embodiment of evil and chaos, to the point of no return.
Every ape is a monkey...

An ape is an evolved but devolved monkey... They used to have tails but they were to good and strong for earth so it got removed it from them

Don't listen to humans about chimps... Every human know they are far far worse.
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for me are the same.
Truth
 
That's not true there nothing indicating that. If anything I don't even think adolla contains concepts except itself. It was created by thoughts therefore evangelist and adolla are conceptual creations. Death in fire force wasn't created but manifested. And even then is death not a tier 0 concept nor universal it's hardly planetary. There is no such thing as a "universal, multiversal or boundless"concept. Death is just the same tier as love, love the same as birth.
scp will disagree on the ''there is no universal,multiversal or boundless''concept.
like,seriosly,the abstract form of scp-682,scp-3125 and other abstract forms are boundless.
fiction works like the **** wants to work,if he want,he can make concepts be beyond boundless,but adolla has concepts that are very powerful,like the collective idea of mathematics(practically the same has ours mathematics)and the concept of dimensions or higher dimension.
the concept of all gods that humanity imagine,the concept of religions and all things that has with them,etc.
of course,death in fire force was manisfeted,but also was the only concept that the great cataclysm cannot destroy.
how death is hardly planetary?if he is above concepts like world(universe)and higher dimension.
 
AH I UNDERSTAND WHY BUGS ARE APART OF ADOLLA. Okay so bugs are from adolla, and when that specific type of bug comes in contact with a human a specific type of pyrokinesis is developed. Which causes SHC(spontaneous human combustion) this is most likely due to the fact that since they're normal humans and not a pillar or someone tied to adolla they instantly burn while merging with their doppleganger version of their selves.
So a person who is a pillar or tied with adolla(and doesn't get affected like arthur,shinra and dragon) should be unable to be turned into SHC. It makes sense why they needed sister sumerie to do it because shes a pillar and can use adolla to create the bugs. She brought demon dopplegangers so theres no mistake she can do that too. She even talked to the lady in the black.
arthur cannot be affected,because of something latter(no spoilers)and shinra cannot be affected either,because of something in future(but at least i can say to you that is because of the adolla burst)
 
scp will disagree on the ''there is no universal,multiversal or boundless''concept.
like,seriosly,the abstract form of scp-682,scp-3125 and other abstract forms are boundless.
fiction works like the **** wants to work,if he want,he can make concepts be beyond boundless,but adolla has concepts that are very powerful,like the collective idea of mathematics(practically the same has ours mathematics)and the concept of dimensions or higher dimension.
the concept of all gods that humanity imagine,the concept of religions and all things that has with them,etc.
of course,death in fire force was manisfeted,but also was the only concept that the great cataclysm cannot destroy.
how death is hardly planetary?if he is above concepts like world(universe)and higher dimension.
Can you explain the abstract forms? I don't really know about scp things.

You can't make concepts beyond boundless. You can create, manipulate or destroy concepts. There are no levels so if their form is like a concept than basically they're the one who's boundless not the form or concept itself.

I know I am not caught up but, adolla doesn't have the concept of all gods, doesn't have concept of religion but it had it's own and concept of dimension or higher? Wasn't that because you needed adolla of some type to even interact with it.

Every manga and anime has mathematics such as fire force, one piece, naruto even bleach lol. The great cataclysm failed twice lol, one because they couldn't get the message decoded and 2 because shinra existed.

Hope is a concept and yet it wasn't destroyed does that mean it's universal. Pretty sure the purposes of it was to turn the earth into a sun and when that happened everything changed. Such as the human style, sun, moon etc.
 
Can you explain the abstract forms? I don't really know about scp things.

You can't make concepts beyond boundless. You can create, manipulate or destroy concepts. There are no levels so if their form is like a concept than basically they're the one who's boundless not the form or concept itself.

I know I am not caught up but, adolla doesn't have the concept of all gods, doesn't have concept of religion but it had it's own and concept of dimension or higher? Wasn't that because you needed adolla of some type to even interact with it.

Every manga and anime has mathematics such as fire force, one piece, naruto even bleach lol. The great cataclysm failed twice lol, one because they couldn't get the message decoded and 2 because shinra existed.

Hope is a concept and yet it wasn't destroyed does that mean it's universal. Pretty sure the purposes of it was to turn the earth into a sun and when that happened everything changed. Such as the human style, sun, moon etc.
i am not the one who most know about the verse,i know about the verse and were scales,but the explanation for that will take to LONG.
so better you look this.
like i say,fiction is fiction,and works for what the hell they want.
and boundless is just another form of just simply something above of above,boundless is not even the limit,there is something beyond boundless.
''adolla does not have the concept of all gods or the concept of religion''
ah,really?.
i not need to explain this,is stated that humanity created religions and the same humanity created the idea of god and other things.
adolla is stated to be a higher plane,but also because adolla is the collective unconcioness,is also the concept of dimension(yes sounds weird,but is what it is)
the original one says ''高次元'',this means higher dimension(also they mention mathematics)
yes,but no one use mathematics as a concept that is surpass or something like that.
the first is not failed,only change reality to be a anime world,and the second time manage to destroy the world succesfully(but shinrabanshoman recreated the world again)and shinra save the world because he is the projection of the concept of hero that humanity imagines(shinra=jesus)
actually yes,because hope can prevent the destruction of the world cause by the great cataclysm.
actually,even if the earth was not turn into a sun,everything still is gonna change,because of adolla merging with reality,and peoples imagination becoming real.
 
Adolla isn't an infinitely superior plane. Doppelgangers from adolla get defeated by their counterparts in the real world.
 
Adolla isn't an infinitely superior plane. Doppelgangers from adolla get defeated by their counterparts in the real world.
you don't need to be infinitely superior plane to be 5 dimensional,that rule was get out of the(censored)from vsbw.
a higher dimension is already,like the name say,a higher dimension,not needed the infinitely superior thing.
and also,what is that about dopplegangers being defeated by the real world counterparts?what does it affect?nothing,is not affecting adolla,the dopplegangers are ideas and concepts giving a form
 
ur right, the difference needs to be uncountably infinite in some way.
Like I said, if it's a higher dimension, it's a higher dimension, you don't need the infinitely higher, because it's not that complex.
is like a dimension is stated to be infinite,you don't need more speficication or a explanation in detail about that.
 
yeah,a higher dimension is a higher dimension,not a 3.5 dimension,or a 3 dimension because ''the rule say that needs to be R>F''when sincerally,only works with things like dreams or a fictional book trascendence or something like that.
get you and idea,no offense,but really vsbw like to make a lot of rules that are non-sense in all the levels for try to low-ball everything because they think that they interpretation is correct(when a lot of times is wrong)like when they treath higher dimension as a R>F,that is not a problem,is a problem when is obligatory and if there is a dimension that is stated to be a higher dimension,then because of that rule,than the dimension is not a higher dimension so is useless.
like other things,like the reactive evolution,adaptation or etc.they are just downplay to ridiculous levels because of non-senses.
like seriosly,for example, a character with reactive evolution can gain resistance to certain things (in his series) and at the moment of combat the enemy has the same things that the character can adapt, but apparently, he cannot, because a Once in the series, it doesn't mean it works this time (which is the stupidest thing I've ever seen) because this kills reactive evolution, and pretty much any power up.
simon the digger has a high level of reactive evolution and power increase,he pass from 3 dimensional to 11 dimensional,and has like infinite spiral power(power of evolution)so passing another dimensional level is not something
unusual, but apparently, simon could not, because apparently reactive evolution only works up to the limit that the series showed, this is to avoid no limit fallacy, although at the same time a fallacy is committed, limit simon's reactive power to not he can pass another dimensional level to reach the enemy's level, even though in the series he jumped 8 dimensional levels,why jumping another dimensional level will be differente?is just 1 in comparacion to 8
 
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i am not the one who most know about the verse,i know about the verse and were scales,but the explanation for that will take to LONG.
so better you look this.
like i say,fiction is fiction,and works for what the hell they want.
and boundless is just another form of just simply something above of above,boundless is not even the limit,there is something beyond boundless.
''adolla does not have the concept of all gods or the concept of religion''
ah,really?.
i not need to explain this,is stated that humanity created religions and the same humanity created the idea of god and other things.
adolla is stated to be a higher plane,but also because adolla is the collective unconcioness,is also the concept of dimension(yes sounds weird,but is what it is)
the original one says ''高次元'',this means higher dimension(also they mention mathematics)
yes,but no one use mathematics as a concept that is surpass or something like that.
the first is not failed,only change reality to be a anime world,and the second time manage to destroy the world succesfully(but shinrabanshoman recreated the world again)and shinra save the world because he is the projection of the concept of hero that humanity imagines(shinra=jesus)
actually yes,because hope can prevent the destruction of the world cause by the great cataclysm.
actually,even if the earth was not turn into a sun,everything still is gonna change,because of adolla merging with reality,and peoples imagination becoming real.
That's long. Plus there isn't something beyond boundless, reading the comments and it says infinite layers of boundless. Nothing about beyond boundless.

I guess I was wrong.The great cataclysm did fail the first time it was stated by the evangelist, that guy who's ancestors made ameterasu and I even think the lady in the black. Shinra having the same similarities of jesus doesn't mean him and jesus are the same it also doesn't mean shinra is the incarnation of jesus. All that man sho said was how shinra reminded him of jesus.

Your explanation of "hope being universal" doesn't make sense. You brought up how if shinra brings hope, then all of humankind will believe in hope and then adolla will stop. That doesn't prove "hope is a universal concept"

Yes but that would just make the great cataclysm fail once again.
 
That's long. Plus there isn't something beyond boundless, reading the comments and it says infinite layers of boundless. Nothing about beyond boundless.

I guess I was wrong.The great cataclysm did fail the first time it was stated by the evangelist, that guy who's ancestors made ameterasu and I even think the lady in the black. Shinra having the same similarities of jesus doesn't mean him and jesus are the same it also doesn't mean shinra is the incarnation of jesus. All that man sho said was how shinra reminded him of jesus.

Your explanation of "hope being universal" doesn't make sense. You brought up how if shinra brings hope, then all of humankind will believe in hope and then adolla will stop. That doesn't prove "hope is a universal concept"

Yes but that would just make the great cataclysm fail once again.
1.one layer into boundless is already beyond boundless.
not mentioning the existence of mathematical universe/multiverse,containing all mathematical structures even transcending itself,and even this:
imagine this:
0: physical ''world''=high hyperversal(infinite dimensions)
1=outerversal(dwarf high hyperversal as hygh hyperversal dwarf to 3 dimensional beings,practically being impossible to reach)
2=high outerversal(trascends the axiom of outerversal,what would be inaccessible to outerversal,like outerversal inaccesible trascendes everything below him)
3=boundless(the same thing)
infinite=extraversal(infinite layers that every is inaccesible higher than the previos one)
like,that is literraly how you are ''beyond''boundless
jesus tecnically exists,because of people ideas and concepts about a hero,so shinra is the greatest hero,and the greatest hero in our world,is jesus(even when in his 30 years of life he did nothing but live his own life)
the thing that needs to be stop is the great cataclysm,not adolla,adolla is the collective unconcioness,also the reason why hope is universal or higher,is because is the only thing that can prevent despair,and despair is the thing that can destroy the collective unconcioness and give the great cataclysm is power to destroy the world.
like i say,the great cataclysm worked last time (but not efficiently enough, because dragon was not there, and dragon has the greatest despair)even with peoples hope,the great cataclysm was not stop,and succesfully destroy the world,but then shinrabanshoman alter everything to prevent despair from being something that exist again,and destroy despair.
 
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