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Dreamworks - Kung Fu Panda assorted CRT
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For now weapons like Oogway’s staff and Walking stick should be added to his standard equipment. With Bamboo Stick being optional for Shifu.
Removing “Likely” from Pressure Points for Shifu.
Subsonic with Supersonic reaction and combat speed for everyone except for Kai, Oogway and probably KFP3 Po.
The Furious Five being plain 8-C via scaling above a young Tigress and being comparable to Mantis which Gyro has a source for.
At least 7-B, possibly 6-B for the god tiers.
The arguments like 8-B, High 8-C etc will probably be talked about in the next thread for now.
Removing “Likely” from Pressure Points for Shifu.
Subsonic with Supersonic reaction and combat speed for everyone except for Kai, Oogway and probably KFP3 Po.
The Furious Five being plain 8-C via scaling above a young Tigress and being comparable to Mantis which Gyro has a source for.
At least 7-B, possibly 6-B for the god tiers.
The arguments like 8-B, High 8-C etc will probably be talked about in the next thread for now.
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That seems fairly reasonable.
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Po dodged Kai's blades in the Spirit Realm too. Though Supersonic movement speed mainly comes from KFP3 Po anyway.
Skill only goes so far - in nearly all instances, bandits/wolves etc get taken out of the fight in one clean hit. Legends of Awesomeness is a bit inconsistent with this sometimes, but they hardly ever pose a threat to named characters, and generally by our standards the burden of proof for non-named fodder characters to be comparable to main characters (in this instance, the Furious Five or even Po) is massively on the side of proving they're comparable.
For the croc bandit example, I don't think Po was being harmed really by Fung's attacks, just that he couldn't get a hit in + the fight was interrupted when the villagers claimed the crocs were heroes. It's also possible that their training involved them getting physically stronger (and that Po + the Furious Five's lack of training made them weaker), as the training was physically intensive, and when the crocs didn't have the skill advantage in their last fight, Po had to punch Fung several times rather than hitting him once or twice with his pinkies to take Fung out (worth mentioning that the Furious Five stomped the croc bandit that they were each facing).
Kai didn't use any "chi enhanced" attacks against Po actually in the mortal realm. His foot wasn't glowing green with chi during his final kick. His 52 ton feat isn't done with "chi enhancements" either, where he drags the two large rocks and shatters them against Oogway's barrier, which is his best on-screen feat.
Here's the scan in question. I think what's been agreed upon can be applied.
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Okay the copy paste option isn’t working so I’ll just put it into numbers for each one I’m responding to.
1. I think it should be noted that Po actually reacted to the blades then dodged it before it got in insane range that he had to move with speed. Though since Po already has Supersonic, can that be linked on his page since it just blankly says Supersonic.
2. I think it’s that in the end they are still stronger. Po and The Furious being hurt but knocking out them in a clean hit is mainly due to it being a critical hit from them. A clean powerful hit from someone stronger than you can knock them out, the lack of any feats for their stamina also doesn’t contradict this.
3. With the croc bandits not harming Po we actually see them knock out Monkey and Viper on screen. The other fighters are out of the fight for a bit so they are likely knocked out. Fung gets a clean kick on Po and he is out of the fight and later on seen on the ground where he was kicked implying he was knocked out. Po also got a hit on Fung but he shrugged it off. The pinky thing was kind of confusing. The fight involved some throwing into walls and being briefly knocked out by merely being thrown down to the floor, this seems to happen to people throughout LoA even people like Temutai which is obviously PIS. One of the crocs get up right away after being hit 4 times with his pinkies. While it’s possible the Crocs got stronger it should be noted the training for them was more endurance which they lack as they are knocked out easily which would
explain why they could take their hits much better.
4. Right. I do want to note I’m not trying to dis credit of any of his 8-B feats.
5. Alright. That should be noted on Mantis’ profile.
1. I think it should be noted that Po actually reacted to the blades then dodged it before it got in insane range that he had to move with speed. Though since Po already has Supersonic, can that be linked on his page since it just blankly says Supersonic.
2. I think it’s that in the end they are still stronger. Po and The Furious being hurt but knocking out them in a clean hit is mainly due to it being a critical hit from them. A clean powerful hit from someone stronger than you can knock them out, the lack of any feats for their stamina also doesn’t contradict this.
3. With the croc bandits not harming Po we actually see them knock out Monkey and Viper on screen. The other fighters are out of the fight for a bit so they are likely knocked out. Fung gets a clean kick on Po and he is out of the fight and later on seen on the ground where he was kicked implying he was knocked out. Po also got a hit on Fung but he shrugged it off. The pinky thing was kind of confusing. The fight involved some throwing into walls and being briefly knocked out by merely being thrown down to the floor, this seems to happen to people throughout LoA even people like Temutai which is obviously PIS. One of the crocs get up right away after being hit 4 times with his pinkies. While it’s possible the Crocs got stronger it should be noted the training for them was more endurance which they lack as they are knocked out easily which would
explain why they could take their hits much better.
4. Right. I do want to note I’m not trying to dis credit of any of his 8-B feats.
5. Alright. That should be noted on Mantis’ profile.
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Just this should be applied. Gyro and me are still discussing at the moment unless we agree to move this certain discussion to the next thread.
As well as the Building level note for Mantis and a link for Supersonic Po.
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I think that comes from Well Spring Po which comes from his Chi bursting into a shockwave. It scales to him and the constellations and Jindiao’s true form at the moment upscales from it.
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7-B comes from a lower end for the meteor I believe
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Not entirely sure what you mean for the first part, but I'll add it to Po's page I guess.
Critical hit? While in real life humans can knock each other out with a good enough hit, that rarely happens in fiction, and if it does then it's usually for a plot reason (e.g. a character sneaks up behind someone and hits them hard over the head while they're off-guard). In the croc's case, the Furious Five/Po consistently taking out these bandits in a single hit is a clear showcase of strength superiority, and we should avoid scaling them for this reason.
In "Croc you like a hurricane" specifically, I think you're overestimating them being "knocked out". They were hit off screen and when they were shown on-screen they were annoyed and a bit dazed at best. It's far more likely that they were hit off-balance like Po was due to their lack of practice rather than being knocked out for like 7 seconds.
To clarify, here are the reasons for the Paws of Destiny stats:
Po (Post Wellspring Amp): At least 7-B [Canyon Diablo Crater, 10 megatons], likely 6-B+ [K-T Event, 84 teratons] (Immensely stronger than before after being amped by the Wellspring. Comparable to the four constellations individually, including Bao who received the full power of Master Black Tortoise, who previously stopped a meteor using only his chi. Po's Wuxi Finger Hold, which dispersed Po's chi into a shockwave, was able to part the clouds over the Panda Village, even without Po's Hero's Chi.)
Po (Post Wellspring Amp in Spirit Realm: At least 7-B [40 megatons], likely High 6-B [335 teratons] (Po fought evenly with Jindiao in his true form, who tanked a combination attacks from the four constellations twice), possibly far higher (Jindiao had absorbed the entirety of the Wellspring, which was described as an "endless" source of chi as well as the source of all light in the universe)
Basically, in the spirit realm Po is 4x stronger than before due to being able to transform into his dragon form there.
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This seems pretty reasonable, yeah.
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Since it's been 7 days and no one has spoken a word about objecting, and a few people have agreed I think it's fine to apply now.
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All changes seem to have been applied, I believe.
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Kim is scaled either to his own feat of pushing apart the Great Wall, or above LoA casual Po (since Kim was portrayed as overall superior to Po in the episode). Speed is more him being comparable to Po I believe.
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In the page he's scaling to his own feat, he's above all the KFP2 characters but inferior to KFP3/Post-Ke-Pa characters like Ke-Pa himself, Po, Kai and naturally, Oogway.
I think it's fair to have him there
I think it's fair to have him there
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Where does thw high hypersonic speed come from again?
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High hypersonic speed comes from the meteorite that Black Tortoise deflected - obviously only scales to Paws of Destiny Post-Wellspring Amp cast and anyone comparable
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Ah right i forgot, but uh, po and jindao's rating have no justifications besides being faster than before, they should mention why, jindao's worse because is just "immensely faster than before" AKA "he is HH, trust us"
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If only there was a way to calc Jindiao searching through the spirit realm as a speed feat.
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INB4 the Spirit Realm is infinitely spanning so Jindaio is Infinite
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