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Dragon Ball Super: Universes/Timeline Tiering Revision
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Can somebody explain this issue as well please?
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A summary of the arguments needs to be compiled.
That, or a more concise, preferably staff-only, thread needs to be built off of the arguments presented here.
That, or a more concise, preferably staff-only, thread needs to be built off of the arguments presented here.
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Strongly agreed.
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Can i make a staff only thread compiling all the arguments from both sides ? This thread in itself stretched into 8 pages and became a mess. People are throwing off random things already rejected years ago.
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I second this, this thread is too long
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That seems like a good idea.
Other genuinely knowledgeable members are also welcome to help out with this.
Less pointless spam posts would also be very helpful.
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thank you. I'll start compiling the arguments from the threads and will link it here soon.
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dragon ball macrocosmos contains multiple different size, rosat is already a dimension outside our universe but within the macrocosmos. rosat is not shown to us as a field outside the entire macrocosmos.
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If rosat is outside the universe, that doesn't mean it's outside the macrocosmos.
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so with such a word rosat should not be taken outside macrocosmos
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i'll address it there.
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That's one of the things I will mention in my future comments. Thank you for mentioning.
dragon ball macrocosmos contains multiple different size, rosat is already a dimension outside our universe but within the macrocosmos. rosat is not shown to us as a field outside the entire macrocosmos.
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this was addressed in the last thread, none of said dimensions have evidence of being space times
there is no proof that it is inside the macrocosm, again this was addressed in the last thread, go read it first
i am not a liar, i just put the arguments that weren't addressed already on the precious thread, and i don't have the patient to read all of the thread again just to summarize points that are not even mine, if you want to make a summery feel free
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basically the wiki treats both cosmologies of anime and manga as the same, since both are equaly canon to the manga of dbz so whatever one changes it applies to the manga of z, in which applies to the other since z is canon to both, this is an already decided thing that even has a rule, this thread isn't the place to argue this
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yeah, this seems to be the best idea
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I've read but the problem is that being outside the universe doesn't mean it's outside the macrocosm, even if the other dimensions aren't low2c it doesn't change that fact. other universes have never been shown to be able to access rosat The only universe that can access rosat is our universe, it is not correct to say directly outside the rosat macrocosmos without proof that other universes cannot reach it.
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it would need proof of it being inside the macrocosm in the first place
if the other dimensions are not space times then they don't matter for this thread
because they don't have access to the door/portal
i don't see the point of this point
not going to ansswer much after this since as ant said
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I think our ideas will continue like this, I don't want to say anything extra because my opinion will not change
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I have made the thread
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I said that the subspace can be referring to the RoSaT being a space inside of a space (inside the timeline) and I said I’m not claiming this for the universe but I guess keep straw manning me
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btw the discussion here is being done in a staff only thread, just to note
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Okay
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Hop will not dispute your fact, but will use it to make a point for this thread going forward:
From a moderation perspective, this is often suitable depending on the instance. For this case, since it alters tiers of several characters and feats in a verse, the wording is highly important. We do not always enforce a blanket rule that a "trusted translator" is properly interpreting a statement, in or out of context. It's a wiki, not the government. We can fix any mistakes like that with a revision down the road. Tiresome as it can be, if we dictate that we as a community agree on a revision, with fair and undoubting evidence, we can proceed with updates or changes, as well as undoing them. We've done it before, it's expected of us as large verses from foreign places undergo large or minor canon alterations as new material comes forward.
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You are always welcome to provide new info if we get something wrong. Staff only isn't a hard and fast rule, but we appreciate when others leave the staff to make decisions ourselves. If we're in the middle of a locked thread, you can write on our walls to interject something if you feel compelled to.
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btw hop, this thread stoped and it is a now a staff discussion thread, here https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragon-ball-cosmology-revision.148648/
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Hop knows, he just wants everyone to be informed.
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okay, thanks
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I don't know if anyone has said it before but if they had the same time period wouldn't broly and kefla be the same age? after all they are legendary saiyans that come once in a thousand years.
so we all know broly and kefla are not the same age, i think that should be enough of an argument
so we all know broly and kefla are not the same age, i think that should be enough of an argument
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Wait, how old even are they?
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So should I close this thread then?
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yes it can close I think they should have asked to close a long time ago lol
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right here
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