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let us stop the arguing, this back and forth is not helping, so we should all stop and let the staff evaluate
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So the case is far different from anything that ben 10 has and forget about them being separate spacetime's. Ben 10 has actual evidences that these dimensions are within same universe and has been evident many times. but we are debating that verse and leaving this verse where there is absolutely 0 evidence for RoSaT being 8nside timeline and timeline to be 2C? Nah, that's double standard not gonna work.
Why does Frieza’s statement about the ROSAT is being taken literally as fact?
In the scan in which Frieza made the statement, he used “perhaps”, which basically mean that is just his guess about the subject of the matter, not only that, he also didn’t know anything nor does he manage the ROSAT. Besides, his statement about not being a part of the universe will make you not being affected by the “ Strongest in the universe” is also contradicted by DBS Manga. It clearly shows that despite existing in the same universe as Granolah, UE Vegeta can actually grow stronger than him, forcing Granolah to evolve his right eye. It means that you can train to become stronger than the one that have “The strongest in the universe” wish and Frieza being stronger than Gas is just the result of him training in the ROSAT for 10 years rather than not being a part of the universe.
DBS Anime also has a feat of Vegeta destroying the ROSAT and he ends up being inside of U7’s scope. Imagine being in a room and that room exists inside a building, if you destroys that room, you will end up being inside of the building, the same applies to the ROSAT and U7. If the ROSAT exists outside of U7, when Vegeta destroys it, he will end up elsewhere and not U7.
Brother, I must correct you that those 9 Realms in both fictions also have evidence of being separate space-time continuums.An example would be both God of War and Marvel's Nine Realms, as in Marvel each timeline hold their own version of the Nine Realms, while in God of War Thor's BFR Jormungandr from Asgard to Midgard back in time.
The evidence you ask for is literally in DBS Anime and it was shown twice.
The evidence you ask for is literally in DBS Anime and it was shown twice.
They are not in the same universe because they operate on different timeflow. But the ROSAT timeflow is still being contained inside U7 space-time. If the ROSAT truly exists outside of U7, then when Vegeta destroy it, he would end up being outside of U7, and Vegeta can’t force his way into U7 if he is outside of it either, he doesn’t have any form of teleport.how does this prove that it is in the same universe?
Why does Frieza’s statement about the ROSAT is being taken literally as fact?
In the scan in which Frieza made the statement, he used “perhaps”, which basically mean that is just his guess about the subject of the matter, not only that, he also didn’t know anything nor does he manage the ROSAT. Besides, his statement about not being a part of the universe will make you not being affected by the “ Strongest in the universe” is also contradicted by DBS Manga. It clearly shows that despite existing in the same universe as Granolah, UE Vegeta can actually grow stronger than him, forcing Granolah to evolve his right eye. It means that you can train to become stronger than the one that have “The strongest in the universe” wish and Frieza being stronger than Gas is just the result of him training in the ROSAT for 10 years rather than not being a part of the universe.
Has been discussed in the previous thread. Thank you for the contribution.They are not in the same universe because they operate on different timeflow. But the ROSAT timeflow is still being contained inside U7 space-time. If the ROSAT truly exists outside of U7, then when Vegeta destroy it, he would end up being outside of U7, and Vegeta can’t force his way into U7 if he is outside of it either, he doesn’t have any form of teleport.
Besides, I also explained why Frieza’s statement should be taken with a grain of salt.
Yeah and that's where it's done. Also don't you dare to bring my waifu null in the middle.Has been discussed in the previous thread. Thank you for the contribution.
I have read the previous thread. All they did to counter Null’s point was just Goten and Buu tearing wormhole apart always lead to the main dimension.
they couldn't refute it, they made up so many excuses.Has been discussed in the previous thread. Thank you for the contribution.
I have read the previous thread. All they did to counter Null’s point was just Goten and Buu tearing wormhole apart always lead to the main dimension.
Tbh, that’s barely a counter argument. Why assume that the wormhole always lead to the main dimension and not U7 is the only dimension the wormhole can lead to?Yeah and that's where it's done. Also don't you dare to bring my waifu null in the middle.
Because multiverse didn't existed at that time, this is one of many reasons it was believed that RoSaT is in U7 but not anymore.Tbh, that’s barely a counter argument. Why assume that the wormhole always lead to the main dimension and not U7 is the only dimension the wormhole can lead to?
this was discussed in the last thread https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragon-ball-quick-revision.148343/They are not in the same universe because they operate on different timeflow. But the ROSAT timeflow is still being contained inside U7 space-time. If the ROSAT truly exists outside of U7, then when Vegeta destroy it, he would end up being outside of U7, and Vegeta can’t force his way into U7 if he is outside of it either, he doesn’t have any form of teleport.
it shouldn't since he was right, the wish didn't encompassed him because he was in the rosat, again this was discussed before in the last threadBesides, I also explained why Frieza’s statement should be taken with a grain of salt.
you have goku in your pfp so no. I'll consider it if you change it with waifu one's. But for everyone else here is the summary.can someone do a ******* summary cus we aint reading allat
- From the previous thread it has been accepted that RoSaT is outside the universe 7.
- RoSaT was considered to be a part of Timeline because it had reasoning and few evidences to be inside universe 7 created because of the fact that RoSaT was introduced before the multiverse was introduced, but now that it is outside the universe and all reasonings that it had so far to be considered to be a part of Timeline doesn't exist anymore, RoSaT is not inside a Timeline anymore as it is seprate spacetime continuum, a dimensional space outside.
- All Timelines has RoSaT being created eventually not because it is being affected by timetravel but rather as all timelines are copies of main timeline, kami story will be copied eventually who has destiny to make RoSaT in all timelines.
- Thus there is no reasoning for Timeline to be considered 2-C anymore as all of the universes are within the same spacetime continuum and RoSaT reasoning on Zenoh profile has been contradicted.
So what's the current staff concensus on what should be done? I see DDM has disagreed with any changes and Planck + Maverick think Low 2-C timeline makes sense?
Add this @Quantu
What are the conclusions here so far among knowledgeable members and our staff? Also, which staff members think what here so far?
Thank you for the information.
Brother, I must correct you that those 9 Realms in both fictions also have evidence of being separate space-time continuums.
btw do you have an opinion on this KLOL506?you have goku in your pfp so no. I'll consider it if you change it with waifu one's. But for everyone else here is the summary.
- From the previous thread it has been accepted that RoSaT is outside the universe 7.
- RoSaT was considered to be a part of Timeline because it had reasoning and few evidences to be inside universe 7 created because of the fact that RoSaT was introduced before the multiverse was introduced, but now that it is outside the universe and all reasonings that it had so far to be considered to be a part of Timeline doesn't exist anymore, RoSaT is not inside a Timeline anymore as it is seprate spacetime continuum, a dimensional space outside.
- All Timelines has RoSaT being created eventually not because it is being affected by timetravel but rather as all timelines are copies of main timeline, kami story will be copied eventually who has destiny to make RoSaT in all timelines.
- Thus there is no reasoning for Timeline to be considered 2-C anymore as all of the universes are within the same spacetime continuum and RoSaT reasoning on Zenoh profile has been contradicted.
Nah brother, I have no opinion to express. I merely came down here to clarify confusions about verses under my support.btw do you have an opinion on this? KLOL506?
ok, thank you anywayNah brother, I have no opinion to express. I merely came down here to clarify confusions about verses under my support.
I am neither in agreement, or in disagreement, or really, even a neutral party. I am indifferent to this CRT as a whole.
classic fansWhy are we suddenly getting random disagrees for no reasons ?
the only argument from the otherside that wasn't already adressed in the last thread is thisWhat about the arguements from the other side?
If I have time in the future, I will explain in more detail why I disagree.Please do not post disagrees without reading the OP and the counterarguments and providing your explanations
Please elaborate.universe 7 has different dimensions inside so this downgrade is ridiculous
ok brouniverse 7 has different dimensions inside so this downgrade is ridiculous
the only argument from the otherside that wasn't already adressed in the last thread is this
which is about a guide saying that the rosat is a subspace of the living universe, but this is contradicted by series since the rosat was said to not be part of the universe
the only argument from the otherside that wasn't already adressed in the last thread is this
which is about a guide saying that the rosat is a subspace of the living universe, but this is contradicted by series since the rosat was said to not be part of the universe
the only argument from the otherside that wasn't already adressed in the last thread is this
which is about a guide saying that the rosat is a subspace of the living universe, but this is contradicted by series since the rosat was said to not be part of the universe
the only argument from the otherside that wasn't already adressed in the last thread is this
which is about a guide saying that the rosat is a subspace of the living universe, but this is contradicted by series since the rosat was said to not be part of the universe
Can somebody here do so please?don't be a liar, there are more arguments above, there are other dimensions above, and other arguments besides this one, please put them all.