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Honestly though, original Broly's backstory isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Broly in the original movies having intense hatred towards Goku, can be seen as him subconsciously associating Goku with the trauma he experienced as an infant. It's a phenomenon that happens in real life where otherwise unrelated objects, sounds, or images can trigger the memory of past trauma. E.g. as a child, you get severly abused by an adult, while there happens to be dogs barking outside your house. You now associate the sound of dogs barking with your trauma, and whenever you hear it, you have an automatic anxiety attack, or a feeling of uncontrollable intense fear or hatred towards dogs.Ryukama said:I don't want anything for Broly besides "Don't have the most ******** motivation ever" and "have a personality and dialogue besides just angirly screaming one word".
People act like having any standards for DB or for Broly is expecting too much.
I never said it was deep. I'm just saying it's not a bad backstory. It doesn't have to be deep to be valid or a good reason. There's plenty of antagonists in fiction who don't have a deep motivation and are instead just psychotic killing machines, some of which have severly traumatic pasts.Ryukama said:C'mon you know it's not that deep. He hates Goku because he cried as a baby which kept him up at night. That's the explanation given. Any other psychological trauma whatever is an interpretation not at all suggested in the story.
Also why doesn't he associate the man who stabbed him or his son who looks exactly like him and has the same name with this past trauma?
Dokken battle call Kale's control LSSJ "SSJ Berserk 2" which was a little weaker than Goku's SSG. Meanwhile, Broly is taking on 2 SSB in his "restrained" SSJ " which is weaker than normal SSJ lolThe 2nd Existential Seed said:Wait... Base Broly superior to SSB2 Kale ?
I don't remember that line being said in either the Jap or Eng versions. I just remember Paragus wondering why Goku upsets him then acknowledging that they were born on the same day, but still acting uncertain as to why Goku upsets him. Then in the flashback, the doctors casually acknowledge Goku's crying upsetting him. That's it.Ryukama said:"He hates Goku because he cried as a baby which kept him up at night"
^ This is the canon explanation. And the only explanation given. Anything else is an, albiet very interesting, fan theory.
Broly doesn't associate Goku's crying with something else that happened to him. The crying itself is the emotionally scarring thing, which is very stupid.
"Because that man is long gone and never seen again by Broly?" But Broly hasn't seen Goku in decades yet his name still triggers him. But hearing Vegeta's name or seeing the same face that stabbed him in the chest and left him and his father for dead doesn't?
Also the fact that him having a stupid motivation is somewhat understandable due to him being crazy, it doesn't change the fact that it is again a stupid motivation. Hating Vegeta is vastly more logical than him hating Goku.
I wouldn't be surprised if they pull Toei Broly in the Heroes animation before that.DragonEmperor23 said:Who's ready for Broly (Super) and Broly (Toei) to meet in XV 3?
Dude, King Vegeta didn't personally stab Broly himself. He ordered someone else to do it. And whoever that person is, he's not around to trigger Broly's memory.Ryukama said:"Why would he hate Vegeta when he's literally never met him and has had zero interaction with him up intil the events of the movie?"
Why would he hate Goku for just crying for a few hours decades ago when they were infants? And again, if you want to go with "but it's not the crying it's what he associates the crying with" theory then why doesn't he associate Vegeta with this trauma? Vegeta is the son of and has the same name and same face as the man who stabbed Broly and left him for dead as a baby. Either way it makes little sense.
Broly's reason for hating Goku is very, very stupid. Broly hating Vegeta would be way less stupid than him hating Goku regardless of anything. Whether Broly's reasons being stupid are justifiable given that he's crazy I don't think changes the fact that it's still stupid. And that I'd still prefer Broly to have less stupid motivations.