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Still failing to follow your logic. Base Goku post-SSG = SSG by the evidence of Base Goku post-SSG keeping up with Beerus without getting one-shot.PFM18 said:Yes. This is true. Hence why I said that SSJ=SSG when he dropped out isn't a claim its just a fact. And obviously Goku got stronger from there.A Stoned Orc said:So, I'd like to go ahead and reiterate that the moment Goku dropped SSG, he was still fighting on par with Beerus, as if SSG hadn't dropped. There's a whole fight sequence before Goku instinctively goes SSJ post-SSG,, where Goku not only blocks and dodges blows from Beerus, but takes hits and dishes them out in return, with no apparent drop in potency despite SSG having "worn off", and without using Super Saiyan transformations.
Super Saiyan is a 40x-50x multiplier. If Base Goku was 40-50x weaker than SSJ Goku, Beerus would have one-shot him the moment SSG failed, as Beerus is not stated to regulate his power level beyond the 10% quote against Vegeta or the 70% quote as he fights SSG Goku. Given the quote from the movie, where Beerus flat out states that Goku absorbed SSG into his body, a lack of contradicting evidence or statements to this in the anime version (please post scans if you have evidence otherwise), I legitimately fail to see where you're getting the idea that only SSJ=SSG after the latter wore off.
Logically speaking, it doesn't make sense that Goku got weaker as he returned to base after SSG, considering his performance against Beerus in that same moment is the same as when he was still in SSG-form.
It makes much more sense to imply that only by going SSJ did he surpass SSG, as it is supported by both fight scenes and dialogue in the anime and movie versions.