Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 74: Broly Hype is unstoppable

[Dragomer]

It's crazy how high up Dragon Ball is on this list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises

It's barely below the MCU and freaking Harry Potter despite having like a 15 years hiatus.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

It's crazy how high up Dragon Ball is on this list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises

I'm surprised yugiyo is that high in the list.

 

[AKM sama]

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

It's barely below the MCU and freaking Harry Potter.

MCU and Harry Potter are heavy hitters, so being barely below them is being among the highest. Especially when you consider the former iwas bought by Disney.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

I totally didn't expect Fist of the North Star to be higher than Toy Story and Lord of the Rings.

Apparently, it makes a ton of money through arcade machine sales soley in Japan.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

.... Dora the Explorer is above Simpsons...

 

[AKM sama]

LMAO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR0mxzQLcHA

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

Honestly, all that matters to me is that Dragon Ball is above Superman. Ohhh!!!

 

[Dragomer]

It's barely below the MCU and freaking Harry Potter.

MCU and Harry Potter are heavy hitters, so being barely below them is being among the highest. Especially when you consider the former iwas bought by Disney.

Yup, which is why i pointed it out, especialy since Harry Potter and the MCU have been going on non stop since their creations (even if Harry Potter kinda fell from the limelight of the wider audience until the fantastic beat movie) while DB pretty much only had reteling in the video games and stuff for a long time.

Also i'd say they are more than heavy hitters, they are amongst the most succesfull franchise in the history of mankind in term of money making.

Also i didn't know that Batman was so much bigger than Superman, same for Spiderman.

 

[Warren_Valion]

I'm kind of mad that Cars is that high on the list.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

I'm sorta peeved dnd is not on the list but magic the gathering is.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

@Dragomer And it's above Lord of the Rings!

As for Batman and Spiderman being above Superman, that makes sense. The main seller for comic franchises (and things like it) are movies and merchandise, which mainly sell to the casual audience and kids. You compare Spiderman to Superman for example, and look at the breakdown of their source of revenue, their comic sales are roughly the same. Which means both of them seem to have the same amount of hardcore fans. However, Spiderman makes way more in movies and merchandise which means he also has far more casual fans. I think these days, Superman is just not that appealing to casual audience. It's a common viewpoint that he's too boring, unrelatable, idealistic, and old fashion. And his movies in recent years also really don't do him any justice (pun intended).

So same amount of hardcore fans, but far more casual fans for Spiderman and Batman.

That being said, back to Dragon Ball. It's huge that it's main canon makes as much as it does. In that respect, it's more comparable to the likes of Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Star Wars etc... which have a huge hardcore following.

 

[Quantu]

I expected The Simpsons to be higher.

 

[The_Mysterious_Stranger_-_Delta-]

I never expected something like Hello Kitty to be that high, good lord.

 

[Warren_Valion]

What even is Anpanman?

 

[Dragomer]

I'm kind of mad that Cars is that high on the list.

That's because car toys are very popular with very young children, most of those who buy cars related stuff probably didn't even hear of the movie and just see a pretty toy car.

 

[Warren_Valion]

I know why they are that high, it just bugs me.

 

[Dragomer]

The funniest is that i had people on reddit telling me how DB isn't all that popular and stuff like spongebob, GTA, fire emblem and Steven Universe were way more popular.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Pokemon: https://youtu.be/MH_BxISG2GM

 

[Darkmon_cns]

The funniest is that i had people on reddit telling me how DB isn't all that popular and stuff like spongebob, GTA, fire emblem and Steven Universe were way more popular.

Just share the link.

 

[Dragomer]

Pokemon: https://youtu.be/2aihpnohJ4A

Pokemon is basicaly what would have happened if DB litteraly never stopped since it's creation.

 

[Peter1129]

I mean the Pokemon Adventures/Special Manga is good even though it has been running for a long time. Though the constant hiatus for the B2W2 Arc is really annoying. It has been 1646 days since Black got sealed in the light stone.

 

[Dragomer]

I mean the Pokemon Adventures/Special Manga is good even though it has been running for a long time. Though the constant hiatus for the B2W2 Arc is really annoying. It has been 1646 days since Black got sealed in the light stone.

I wasn't trying to say that Pokemon was bad, just that it's the ammount of money DB would have if it never stopped, i'm just talking money wise, not quality (cause let's be honest, good or bad, pokemon and DB stuff WILL sell)

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

Pokemon is basicaly what would have happened if DB litteraly never stopped since it's creation.

Could we argue that DB is what would have happened if Fist of the North Star never stopped since it's creation? xD

 

[Dragomer]

Pokemon is basicaly what would have happened if DB litteraly never stopped since it's creation.

Could we argue that DB is what would have happened if Fist of the North Star never stopped since it's creation? xD

Pretty much, DB and Fist of the North Star were litteraly in competition to be the latest 'redefinition of manga' or the return of Tezuka, with Fist of The North Star already being in place due to being older with DB being the challenger IIRC, DB ended up winning but Fist of the north star still left it's mark.

 

[The_Calaca]

So... what about Moro now? Is anybody working on his profile?

 

[Warren_Valion]

So... what about Moro now? Is anybody working on his profile?

I think we should wait until he becomes younger and gets all of his magic powers back first.

 

[The_Calaca]

There are profiles for characters with both old and prime versions if the power/tier is different. So I think waiting until we see what he's capable of it's the best option I guess.

 

[Peter1129]

Finished my blog. I want to see what other people's thoughts on it are like. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blogeter1129/Goku's_Limit_Breaking_Boosts_in_the_Tournament_of_Power

 

[AKM sama]

So... what about Moro now? Is anybody working on his profile?

We should at least wait for the next chapter, because that's when he'll show his powers against Vegeta. No point in making an incomplete profile.

 

[JackJoyce]

This blog makes some good point DBS has been a wastage of good transformations

 

[Darkmon_cns]

~~God of war is at 4-A the spam should soon commence.~~

 

[Darkmon_cns]

It has began. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2628949?useskin=oasis

 

[Peter1129]

So after going to the previous thread and looking at the light novel scans I decided to google translate them. And there seems to be some important powerscaling stuff in it. So I'll just post two lines that I think are important to the scaling.

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Vegeta again dodges it, this time kick in the back of the head. The upper body of the bowlies is slightly forward swaying, but that was it.

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In the battle with Vegeta where there was a fierce battle, Brolly had been striking strongly instead of attacking, letting physical strength tell one thing, but he had been striking nearly equal battle against Goku.

So SSG Vegeta was only able to make Wrath Broly's body somewhat sway forward but that was it. While SS1 Goku was having a nearly equal match with Wrath Broly.

 

[The_Calaca]

Power levels are bulls**t once again.

 

[Peter1129]

I mean it's consistent with what happened at the end of the ToP when a heavily weakened Post-UI Base Goku is stronger than Frieza and 17 a Pre-UIS SSB lvl and Pre-UIS SSBKK Lvl character respectively. So it makes sense for Post-UI SS1 Goku to be stronger than Post-Limit Break SSG Vegeta who is comparable to Post-2nd UIS SSG Goku. And the interview did say Vegeta was desperately trying to catch up to Goku who's current full power is near the Gods.

 

[JackJoyce]

How strong is Frieza from the movie? Reply here

 

[Jobbo]

Low 2-C SS Goku confirmed.

 

[BlackeJan]

Lol so those zenkais from UI is the real key factor here. This actually shows proof in the novel as well + Toriyamas word

 

[Dragomer]

Power level were never bulshit and the promotion for the movie made clear that Vegeta is trying to CATCH UP to Goku, meaning that Goku once again took the lead on Vegeta.

Keeping Goku and Vegeta dead equal is clearly more Toei and Toyotaro's concern cause Toriyama doesn't give a ****, which is for the better cause they really had to jump through loops to keep Vegeta equal to Goku.