Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 46

[Aeyu]

I mean
I personally dont think The Gods of Destruction have been truly surpassed. Just extremely surprised and worried on HOW strong they can be. Yeah...They said jiren is the mortal on the level of Gods, but i really dont think they would throw away that status for the gods....just yet

Im waiting for Zeno to be just one of like, 7 Ultra gods of the different dimensions, and hes governed by true god Lord Popo

Whise stated he may have already surpassed the god status, clown god was worried from the SB but jiren tank it, he said no being can match jiren "which would include himself" and then he was tearing his hair from the fact there someone who can match jiren like this
All the gods were shivering from Goku's new form and made VERY big deal about it

Well there always exuses to make i guess huh, if he truly above gods they will say it directly they are yet to even explain his new form

The narrator in the closing scene states that all the gods fear Goku's new form (except presumably the Angels and Zen'o, who were more in awe than scared)

So that 100% confirm Goku surpassed the gods huh ?

That's not what confirms it as much as Goku and Jiren being masters of a technique that not even GoDs can master.

 

[Pikachu942]

What I personally got from the special was that Ultra Instinct Goku and Jiren are comparable to the GoDs, not strictly above them. They might be stronger than some but weaker than others, but definitely in the same tier as them, similar to probably Vegito and Merged Zamasu...and Sword of Hope Trunks I guess.

 

[Aceraspire]

So Goku resisted vaporization from Spirit bomb.

Also what's with heat?it looks like heat run out or whatever and his form disappeared

 

[Aeyu]

What I personally got from the special was that Ultra Instinct Goku and Jiren are comparable to the GoDs, not strictly above them. They might be stronger than some but weaker than others, but definitely in the same tier as them, similar to probably Vegito and Merged Zamasu...and Sword of Hope Trunks I guess.

Relative to the same power or not, it can be argued that they are stronger than the GoDs based entirely off of the Mastery of Self-Movement.

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Didn't anyobody notice universe 6 namekians in this episode ?will Goku and Jiren be low 2C or High 3A because their ki shook the world of void which is infinite and timeless(or maybe not)?

 

[Therefir]

will Goku and Jiren be low 2C or High 3A because their ki shook the world of void which is infinite and timeless(or maybe not)?

We are discussing that here.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Already being discussed, high 3-A seems like it's probable.

 

[Aeyu]

It is infinite, and indeed there is a thread for that ^

 

[Pannaliciour]

The Great Priest thinks it is still too early to tell for sure, but this new development is definitely something to keep an eye on.

If the grand priest talks like that you know that form strong!

 

[Wtfishubbardtr3y]

Could someone answer my Above comment on how this new power up would compare to thought robot superman adaptation ability. [ not trying to cause a debate , but I'm curious to how it would be similar ]

 

[Aceraspire]

Nobody didn't mention how Goku's pupils/eyes turned black twice while he was charging at Jiren.

At same time when his eyes turned black he also screamed more like Oozaru

 

[PaChi2]

Nice double episode. Jiren is too strong. I hope frieza does something crazy, like mimicking the ultra instinct stuff. lol

 

[Therefir]

What kind of power is the ultra instinct?

 

[PaChi2]

What whis has always repeated about letting your body act on its own.

 

[Therefir]

What whis has always repeated about letting your body act on its own.

I know but, in power and abilities, what power would apply to ultra instinct? maybe precognition?

 

[PaChi2]

Fun fact: Jiren is probably one, if not the weakest High 3-A vsbattles wise under SBA. He lets the enemy use all they got before crushing them with his almighty power. So its totally in character for him to let the character he is put against use their ace and win. lol.

 

[FTW395]

Frieza gonna give Goku his energy

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

That may not be true, it was said Jiren was intently watching Goku the whole time, he knew what he was capable of and let him get it off because he knew it wouldn't work, that or he's gonna be the king of Jobbers.

 

[PaChi2]

That may not be true, it was said Jiren was intently watching Goku the whole time, he knew what he was capable of and let him get it off because he knew it wouldn't work, that or he's gonna be the king of Jobbers.

If he is put against people in his tier, then it will have the same effect, as those guys are on his level. He will feel curious about it just like he did with goku.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

He watched Gokubabd already knew his cap though, itvwas stated He was watching.

It could be a character flaw but going off just Goku we can't say, we'll know next week though against Hit.

 

[Aceraspire]

He let Goku use his max power & spirit bomb so that others would see how strong he is so that they realize they are powerless against him.

That was intention of U11 GOD

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Anybody noticed the Universe 6 Namekians?

 

[DodoNova2]

'''MY GOD THE EPISODES ARE AMAZING'''

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

The episode was pretty epic and that transformation though

 

[Aceraspire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo4UIsnJycs

 

[Geova2507]

one question guys, did anyone notice that the GP was going to protect Zeno from the genki dama?

 

[FTW395]

one question guys, did anyone notice that the GP was going to protect Zeno from the genki dama?

Wasn't this in a deleted scene

 

[Megamangohan]

@FTW, YES, I saw that

 

[DodoNova2]

I detour the image of goku Ultra Instinct

 

[Geova2507]

Wasn't this in a deleted scene

it wasn't "deleted" it was shown in the TV sepcial, but for some reason the cut it off in the Crunchroll version

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

... Zeno weaker than Genki Dama.. What? That... Messes up the scaling.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

It was probably Grand Priest just concerned. Or maybe he did not want Goku's Spirit Bomb to destroy his throne making Zeno mad in the process...

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Double the Zenos.... Double the own age.

 

[PaChi2]

He let Goku use his max power & spirit bomb so that others would see how strong he is so that they realize they are powerless against him.

That was intention of U11 GOD

No. Belmod wanted to defeat Goku so the U7 and the others would lose their will to fight. When Goku was charging the Genki dama the Kaioshin mentioned the "Let the enemy use all their power and then crush them" thing and afterwards Belmod said something like "that's how Jiren does things".

 

[LordGriffin1000]

I just watch the special 1 hour and I say this... THAT WAS SO AMAZING, AWESOME, EPIC, FANTASTIC THING I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME!!!!!!!.

Now we know Jiren is the THE ONE!.

 

[DodoNova2]

I just watch the special 1 hour and I say this... THAT WAS SO AMAZING, AWESOME, EPIC, FANTASTIC THING I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME!!!!!!!.
Now we know Jiren is the THE ONE!.

I was waiting for your reaction lol

 

[Golden_Void]

Goku was already High 3-A via almost turning U7 into a void with Beerus :^)

 

[Dark649]

U7 is not infinite in size.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

What about surviving attacks from Infinite Zamasu?

 

[Dark649]

PIS, as they were prior stomped in Base before by a weaker Fusion Zamasu state.