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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

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Well, have you looked at the Toei speed blog? I don't think so, right? A new blog should be created explaining why Toei's cosmology is accepted as infinite and the speed too, @Eficiente seems right, risking things like that and leaving only that i don't think is the right thing to do, lol

 
RoninSlayer200 said:
Vegeta also did that in Broly movie
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That scene was always a bit odd to me. Vegeta's aura there was a tad bit different from the iconic golden glow of SSJ, plus the fights had a lot of focus on Goku and Vegeta's transformation sequences, dragging them out and even doing the thing where Vegeta's hair briefly turns green and Goku seems to tap into UI for a split second while going blue. This seems more direct imo, especially with the whole going SSJ then leaving it thing.
 
I was thinking here, could Gogeta's soul punisher take away the cosmic Garou's powers? I remember that Garou was high on God's power and was eliminating people and even killed Genos, this would make a bad guy who can be affected by soul punisher?
 
Ednaxel2 said:
no, but when he clashed with Gohan post zenkai, Piccolo did state it felt like the universe was shaking. Not saying whether or not itā€™s a valid statement, but itā€™s there
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Btw, this was Cell charging up, not clashing with Gohan.
In normal terms this feat would be 3-C to 3-B, but as Toei's Universe is Infinite, then that's a High 3-A feat for Cell
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I was thinking here, could Gogeta's soul punisher take away the cosmic Garou's powers? I remember that Garou was high on God's power and was eliminating people and even killed Genos, this would make a bad guy who can be affected by soul punisher?
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Soul Punisher is just an energy ball, Gogeta could do that to Janemba because the difference in power.
 
BlastX said:
Soul Punisher is just an energy ball, Gogeta could do that to Janemba because the difference in power.
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Not sure about that. That's a soul purifier, remember that after desintegrating Janemba the vessel that the latter posssed survived almost intact. And the fact that Janemba isn't a mere physical being, he is an aglomeration of evil souls, he's above the concept of death even. Janemba is literally immortal and can't be put down by raw ki blasts alone, otherwise Gogeta would've used something like Big bang attack or the like
 
Ruphas_Mafahl123 said:
Not sure about that. That's a soul purifier, remember that after desintegrating Janemba the vessel that the latter posssed survived almost intact. And the fact that Janemba isn't a mere physical being, he is an aglomeration of evil souls, he's above the concept of death even. Janemba is literally immortal and can't be put down by raw ki blasts alone, otherwise Gogeta would've used something like Big bang attack or the like
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In the Movie 12 guide and Danzenshuu 7 it's been stated that it's just an energy ball, Gogeta was so much stronger than Janemba that he could do it without a massive attack like that.
 
Ruphas_Mafahl123 said:
Why didn't the demon teen that Janemba posssed die due to collateral damage then?
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Because Ki Control? Gogeta can do this with any of his attacks as long as he's overwhelmingly stronger than his opponent, hell same thing happens in GT when he transforms the Negative Karma Ball with with his positive energy.
 
Alright, here it is. The ultimate, end all be all explanation of ALL the timelines created during the Android/Cell Arc, written in a way that is easy to understand and avoids paradoxes and plot holes.

1st Timeline (The Original): TrunksĀ¹ used the time machine to create a 2nd Timeline, where he warned the Z-Fighters of the upcoming Android threat and where he obtained blueprints to create the remote to deactivate the Androids. However, CellĀ¹ would kill him and steal the time machine to travel even further into the past, creating the 3rd Timeline.

2nd Timeline (Unseen): This is where TrunksĀ¹ went in his trip to the past. This timeline is almost identical to the main one we follow in the show, with the only difference being that no version of Cell came from the future here. How the events played out here is mostly unknown. On Gero's lab, CellĀ² is being incubated but his fate is also unknown.

3rd Timeline (History of Trunks): This is where CellĀ¹ went in his trip to the past. Here, he buried himself underground for four years, waiting for the Androids to be unleashed. The Androids from this timeline would kill the Z-Fighters (including Piccolo) just like in the original timeline. Then, CellĀ¹ would try to absorb them but he underestimated their strength and ended up killed (he can't sense their power levels).
Many years later, TrunksĀ² would travel to the past, creating the 4th Timeline where he would obtain knowledge of Cell. This would allow him to stop CellĀ³ from stealing the time machine again.

4th Timeline (Main One): This is where TrunksĀ² went in his trip to the past. CellĀ¹ was already buried underground in the 3rd Timeline (the one where this timeline branches off) so he was duplicated the moment TrunksĀ² arrived here, creating Cellā“. Piccolo wasn't killed in this timeline so he would fuse with Kami to become stronger. This new "Kamiccolo" would be a major obstacle for Cellā“, who would resort to absorb humans in Gingertown to become stronger than him. Krillin would kill Cellāµ, who was incubating in Gero's lab. Cellā“ would absorb A17 and A18, becoming perfect. Gohan would kill Cellā“ and TrunksĀ² would return to his time with knowledge of Cell.

In conclusion, we end up with 4 timelines, 5 Cells and 2 Future Trunks.
 
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Vizer04 said:
Alright, here it is. The ultimate, end all be all explanation of ALL the timelines created during the Android/Cell Arc, written in a way that is easy to understand and avoids paradoxes and plot holes.

1st Timeline (The Original): TrunksĀ¹ used the time machine to create a 2nd Timeline, where he warned the Z-Fighters of the upcoming Android threat and where he obtained blueprints to create the remote to deactivate the Androids. However, CellĀ¹ would kill him and steal the time machine to travel even further into the past, creating the 3rd Timeline.

2nd Timeline (Unseen): This is where TrunksĀ¹ went in his trip to the past. This timeline is almost identical to the main one we follow in the show, with the only difference being that no version of Cell came from the future here. How the events played out here is mostly unknown. On Gero's lab, CellĀ² is being incubated but his fate is also unknown.

3rd Timeline (History of Trunks): This is where CellĀ¹ went in his trip to the past. Here, he buried himself underground for four years, waiting for the Androids to be unleashed. The Androids from this timeline would kill the Z-Fighters (including Piccolo) just like in the original timeline. Then, CellĀ¹ would try to absorb them but he underestimated their strength and ended up killed (he can't sense their power levels).
Many years later, TrunksĀ² would travel to the past, creating the 4th Timeline where he would obtain knowledge of Cell. This would allow him to stop CellĀ³ from stealing the time machine again.

4th Timeline (Main One): This is where TrunksĀ² went in his trip to the past. CellĀ¹ was already buried underground in the 3rd Timeline (the one where this timeline branches off) so he was duplicated the moment TrunksĀ² arrived here, creating Cellā“. Piccolo wasn't killed in this timeline so he would fuse with Kami to become stronger. This new "Kamiccolo" would be a major obstacle for Cellā“, who would resort to absorb humans in Gingertown to become stronger than him. Krillin would kill Cellāµ, who was incubating in Gero's lab. Cellā“ would absorb A17 and A18, becoming perfect. Gohan would kill Cellā“ and TrunksĀ² would return to his time with knowledge of Cell.

In conclusion, we end up with 4 timelines, 5 Cells and 2 Future Trunks.
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assuming Cell 3 was incubating in the 3rd timeline right?
 
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