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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Eden_Warlock99
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Beerus has MFTL+ flight speed, so I guess I'd be redundant.
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I doubt this feat would be anywhere near or above subsonic+ since the timeframe we're given in the anime is not short
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Brilliant suggestion Omega. MFTL+ Travel Speed and Immeasurable Combat Speed here we come.
/s
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Make the Universe Infinite (DBS) in size first
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There are people working on that right?
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This but unironically.
Hasty12345
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Are there any combat speed feats that can prove the "outlier" stance?
I can't think of any
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-Saiyans are the descendants of Majin that left the Demon Realm and they evolved from their demonic ape forms into their human forms.
-Turles is an ancient saiyan who possibly fought Yamoshi and has been sealed this entire time
-He somehow ends up free and leads a gang of majin, taking over the Second Demon World
-The Tree of Might is a tree located in the Second Demon World where the Glind (Shin and possibly all the kais) come from
-Turles makes use of the Tree of Might to devour the energies of the Demon Realm, trying to restore the dormant majin power in his blood
-His transformation is a Majin Great Ape
-Ends in Goku defeating him with Ultra Instinct
-Essentially an angelic saiyan overcoming a demonic saiyan
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That Immeasurable combat speed is an outlier? None immediately come to mind but there are probably at least a few examples. The main argument people use is the 48 minutes of the ToP but it's been pretty heavily critiqued.
Hasty12345
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48 minutes makes light speed an outlier
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Ya it dosen't make sense for any speed rating they have, why should it matter more for this one then the others?
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The outlier argument fundamentally doesn't work on so many levels, not just in Dragon Ball Super's specifc cases but generally across fiction. The Flash has hundreds if not thousands of anti-feats, many of them absolutely vital for the plot to function, and the Flash rightfully still gets immeasurable speed. Not to mention the ToP isnt really much of a slam dunk argument for an outlier anyway.
If Super were to ever get Immeasurable accepted, it'd be a hypertimeline 5D Heros type thing where everyone and their mother would get immeasurable speed afterwards. Then standards will be changed suddenly and for completely unrelated reasons.
Generally I'd focus on infinite universe gettinf accepted first, and Immeasurable speed kind of just hang around as a 'we know it's probably accurate but the site isn't really ready for it yet'.
If Super were to ever get Immeasurable accepted, it'd be a hypertimeline 5D Heros type thing where everyone and their mother would get immeasurable speed afterwards. Then standards will be changed suddenly and for completely unrelated reasons.
Generally I'd focus on infinite universe gettinf accepted first, and Immeasurable speed kind of just hang around as a 'we know it's probably accurate but the site isn't really ready for it yet'.
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Where dose infifnte universes come from? I don't think there's any resource to do that in the maintime line currentttt
And you ment infinte sized universe that makes more sense (is there a discord or something I can join to be looped into that?)
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We have a server, yes, but we lowkey critical of who joins after Luffy leaked a bunch of shit. So you'll have to perform a few tasks
First step, take out your credit card and tell me the three funny numbers on the back
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Obviously the numbers are beta delta and alpha
Hasty12345
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Well unironically I have been a DB supporter sense before the forms existed- I wouldn't pull anything like that.
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I'll see what I can do. I think Titled is in control of that but hes usually busy flooding the NSFW channel
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Thank you
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Only things we know is that it was "on the other side of the planet" according to a guide, and that it was in a second iirc. Even if the timeframe can't be accepted, Frieza was in the middle of killing Vegeta. So Goku flew from one side of Namek to the other in the time it would take for Frieza's hand to reach Vegeta. And I think Toriyama said Namek was Earth sized? Not sure.
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Wait you're actually cooking with the Majin Great Ape thing, Oozaru's have pointy ears and it turns them into violent rampaging monsters.
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angels should probably be straight up immeasurable speed. Whis has a panel in the manga where he straight up just flies to another timeline
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Wait really?
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I don’t think this site accepts that as immeasurable though unfortunately
Hasty12345
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Isn't it how DBH got immeasurable speed?
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They flew into different eras of time
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Null already disproved that Goku was on the other side of the planet.
Yes, Namek and Earth are identical in size.
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The textbook def of immeasurable here is traveling through time with sheer speed tho?
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Traveling to "another timeline" is not Immeasurable Speed even if the story says it's from sheer speed (I've asked before, it's dimensional travel)
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That's silly, especially if only time machines and time travel mechanics had been used to reach such places before...
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Welcome to vsbw lmao
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For those that play Sparking Zero, I gotta ask, does the Fusion get stronger when you fuse the characters in a battle rather than picking them outright from the select screen or it doesn't change anything?
I ask because in BT3 Fusing mid battle resulted in a much stronger fusion.
I ask because in BT3 Fusing mid battle resulted in a much stronger fusion.
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I mean if Infinite Sized Universe is accepted, then there's zero chance people are just going to leave it alone and not try infinite speed as soon as Infinite Sized Universe is applied
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Daima could give a single statement about the Universe being infinite and everything else fits together nicely, but i doubt there will be anything like that, DB has never been one to explain things well.
Fezzih_007
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Weird, Pretty sure the last 3 episodes of Daima are the characters doing a lot of explaning.
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I managed to get a distance of 363.084 m, which, if Goku reached the Z-Fighters and Frieza within 0.2 sec, equals a speed of Mach 5.29276968.
Although, there's also this calculation.
Although, there's also this calculation.
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