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Then it should be splitted from the canon one
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Ah yes, forgot.
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We gotta separate DBS anime keys from so many profiles lol
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Why exactly did people try to make Kia canon to super?
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Better question why, it definitely wasn't because it was true no offical source has ever said such a thing they only did it because of the anime only content from Z that is sometimes referenced in filler, content that was by and large made by Toriyama.
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Can you please check the actual thread out, this issue was already addressed
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Well for one I can't really find it, but also I just wanted to know what the motive behind it was
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Ok in Z, Goku when he turns ssj 3 against Fat Buu, his ki can be sensed from the Kaioshin realm. Which suggest that Goku's Ki crossed the spatial/dimensional boundaries and affected/interacted with those barriers by default, so how this feat would translate?
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I don't think that necessarily means anything significant. Supreme Kai could also sense nearly every human on Earth being killed.
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At least it’s a range feat
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I feel like there's some kind of distinction between Shin sensing all the people on earth and what Goku did.
Given that Kibito was freaking out that they could sense Goku's power from the Kaioshin Realm
Could be easier to sense trillions of lives being lost than one individual powering up
Or maybe being able to locate a person's energy from vast distances just isn't the same as someone being so powerful that their energy can be felt from an entirely different dimension.
Kinda like what SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Buu do later in the hyperbolic time chamber.
Given that Kibito was freaking out that they could sense Goku's power from the Kaioshin Realm
Could be easier to sense trillions of lives being lost than one individual powering up
Or maybe being able to locate a person's energy from vast distances just isn't the same as someone being so powerful that their energy can be felt from an entirely different dimension.
Kinda like what SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Buu do later in the hyperbolic time chamber.
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It could mean Kibito is physically feeling the pressure of Goku's power rather than simply a sixth sense Or Shin was simply using the Far-Seeing Arts and saw what was happening on Earth.
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What's a "good" thing in the moment that could happen in dragonball that totally screws everyone over later on?
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About Goku black's Scythe technique.
We know it blocked Goku's ki sensing.
But, shouldn't it be listed as power null, or extrasensory perception negation instead of Ki negation?
The technique seems to neg the ability overall, negs extrasensory perception, so there is no proof it wouldn't work on other energy types.
We know it blocked Goku's ki sensing.
But, shouldn't it be listed as power null, or extrasensory perception negation instead of Ki negation?
The technique seems to neg the ability overall, negs extrasensory perception, so there is no proof it wouldn't work on other energy types.
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Pretty sure burden proof of it negating every extrasensorial perception abilities is on you.
It appears as ki sensing negation because what has shown not to work is Ki Sensing. Which is way more concrete than just "extrasensorial perception negation" or power null
It appears as ki sensing negation because what has shown not to work is Ki Sensing. Which is way more concrete than just "extrasensorial perception negation" or power null
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There are characters from other verses that display similar feats and we put the ability on the power null and/or extrasensory perception negation tabber.
Black shouldn't be any different. If we put it under power null or else is fine.
There are characters like Anos Voldigoad who can negate Magic, but we don't put his abilities under "Magic negation" we put it under "power nullification"....Black shouldn't be any different
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Then go deal with those verses, I guess.
Dragon Ball ability is explicitely stated to be Ki Sensing; and Goku Black clones negate Ki sensing specifically. I don't see why being more vague is better for a profile.
Are you fr comparing someone who can negate all kinds of magic to an ability that just negates Ki Sensing and nothing else?
Edit: Hell, now that I rewatch the scan to justify that, it doesn't even say that Black Goku nullifies Ki Sensing, but rather that the energy is all messed up where they are so Goku cannot locate something. Change Ki Sensing Negation to Energy Manipulation would be way more specific than what you're purposing when there is nothing being negated on the first place.
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Watch his clone tabber, it says "Ki sensing negation"....I believe a little CRT might fix this hahaha
And to answer your other point, what Anos negs is still Magic, despite being multiple types of magic
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Yeah, I got it now.
But tbh, it should not be power null, since nothing is being negated here. To put it simple, is like someone trying to track a fish under water just for someone to disturb the water, making "the light all messy" and harder/impossible for them to track it.
Power null is more of Daishinkan's case, in which they just cannot use their ability to fly.
But tbh, it should not be power null, since nothing is being negated here. To put it simple, is like someone trying to track a fish under water just for someone to disturb the water, making "the light all messy" and harder/impossible for them to track it.
Power null is more of Daishinkan's case, in which they just cannot use their ability to fly.
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Well, the tabber still says "Ki sensing negation".
But I do believe it's power null or extrasensory perception negation, an ability which messes with other abilities making them useless is still a type of negation. Many characters have similar justification. If Goku couldn't use his ability, then it's enough to qualify I believe
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If I got the context right, Goku could use his ability, he just couldn't locate Trunks with it.
He can sense Ki, that's why he realized the energy was all messed up there; it's just that the energy being all messed up makes him unable to distinguish ki and catch Trunks'
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Messing up someone's perception does also count, I think
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Messing up with someone's perception should not grant power null in no world.
If you know a verse which has PN for that, then please do a CRT to remove it.
If you know a verse which has PN for that, then please do a CRT to remove it.
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Well, ig what Black's time rift does is just a type of energy manipulation that messes with the senses?
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It does not mess with senses, it messes with Ki sensing, which is Extrasensorial Perception.
Given how Goku described it, unless there is something else, yeah, I guess it should be listed as Energy Manipulation and specify it messes with the energy in a way locating a specific Ki might be impossible
Given how Goku described it, unless there is something else, yeah, I guess it should be listed as Energy Manipulation and specify it messes with the energy in a way locating a specific Ki might be impossible
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Ok, thanks a lot for taking the time to answer this question
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that is the DBS Anime, not canon to the OG Manga
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Why dose that matter? Thisnis a disc about super in the super thread. That is utterly irrelevant
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He talked about a situation in the OG Manga and gave an explanation with something of the DBS Anime, if one isn't canon to the other, then said explanation can't be used
Also, why the tone? Are you ok?
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Honestly it's because your insistence of that at any instant annoys me. This is the super thread everything is about super. It dosen't matter that they used a Manga panel as reference there simply nothing wrong about responding to it from the perspective of super sense that is literally what this thread is and has always been.
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......insistence of what? It was accepted that DBS Anime follows the DBZ KAI continuity, not the OG Manga.......blame the ones who made that accepted, not me, i am not even saying no one is allowed to talk about both anime and manga here, just that obviously you can't use one continuity as evidence for another separated continuity, that is basic for all verses here, not just DB, it would be like using stuff from the Archie comics as evidence for Game Sonic, for example
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That dosen't really work in this context sense the events of the orginal manga happened almost exactly as is in every other relevant continuity.
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......so? they happened the same in Heroes as well for example, we can't use Heroes stuff for the OG Manga or the DBS Anime continuities still, does some events happens similarly? yes, does that mean all information of said different continuity can be used universally for all continuities? no
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just saw a clip on YT of Beerus and some of the Uni 7 fighters debating whether to let A17 and A 18 fuse, that would've been such a cool thing to see in canon (I heard Super 17 fused with 18 in Super Dragon Ball Hereos?). If they went through with the plan to make them fuse and they actually did, how strong do you think they would've been, and how well do you think Uni 7 would've done. Better, or worse?
