Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I don't know if this makes much difference to the concept.

But ki defines your existence, in addition to each person having their own ki signature, which also defines whether you are good or bad, it also defines whether you are a deity or not.

I saw GOW using this thing about whether you are a god or not to support the concept. Although there is much more there and there is more context about things.

But it's a way of thinking, personally I don't see a type 3 concept in ki, but if you can do it, well, good, I guess.

I think it would work if ki were a type 3 concept, ki is everywhere, including in: objects that don't have lives, Planets, Stars, Galaxies, Universes, even in separate timelines, even in a realm where ki shouldn't even exist there is ki there (I'm talking about the afterlife) every being that is born has their own ki.

Akira once compared ki to a concept and as if it were the same as one.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

We literally have this on the verse page.

Talking about being someone's life force, their emotions and mindset. In addition to the additional thing that defines whether you are a god or not.


Why doesn't Ki have life manipulation? If the vital force is part of ki?

Life Manipulation is the ability to manipulate the life force that courses inside living beings or the very concept of life itself.

Possible Uses​

• Animation: Some life manipulators are able to breathe life into inanimate objects, turning them into living creatures to aid them in combat.
• Plant Manipulation: Life manipulators are frequently associated with plant life, enriching the ground with life energy in order to cause plants to rapidly grow. Some users can control the life energy within the plants for a variety of effects.
• Healing/Regeneration: Many life manipulators are able to use it to heal themselves or others to greatly prolong the time they spend in combat.
• Life Stealing/Instant Death: Some life manipulators are able to steal life energy or simply remove the life energy from an opponent's body to grievously harm or kill the target.
• Statistics Amplification: Many works feature characters that are able to manipulate the life energy within their own body to grant them Superhuman Physical Characteristics or bolster their already great physical prowess.

Ki has none of those. At best, you can argue that abilities with Ki absorption like Genkidama or Moro's absorption do. But again, energy absorption would be a way more proper term in that case

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

that's not the real Kishimoto

Yes, just to make fun

 

[RedReaper616]

I mean, I can see spirit control granting self Soul Manipulation, maybe. But not ki manipulation in general, though.

I agree. Normal Ki Manipulation can't harm Souls. It's merely using life energy to project energy and gain access to esoteric abilities.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Besides, Gotenks makes ghosts.

He makes Ki in the shape of ghosts.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Besides, Gotenks makes ghosts.

Those are not ghosts in the actual sense, though, but ki constructs with the shape of ghosts

 

[Spinoirr]

Question: if a whole power system is basied on a "manifestation of the soul" then wouldn't that grant limited soul manipulation?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

We literally have this on the verse page.

Talking about being someone's life force, their emotions and mindset. In addition to the additional thing that defines whether you are a god or not.


Why doesn't Ki have life manipulation? If the vital force is part of ki?

Tenshinhan died after expending all his ki, If anyone has no more doubts, what's over ki and you're completely dead

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Don't know if this could grant anything, but Ki blasts are stated to be chemical projectile weapons

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Question: if a whole power system is basied on a "manifestation of the soul" then wouldn't that grant limited soul manipulation?

Naruto from what i remember won, if I'm not mistaken, and both have almost the same concept as Dragon Ball

 

[RedReaper616]

Bros cooking I think that if someone does use Spirit Control it should automatically be Soul Manipulation though.

If we do propose this, I do want to say we should probably up better define Vegeta's Soul Manipulation, because we learn at the very end of the Moro Arc that Reverse Forced Spirit Fission can work. (With it being very similarly to the Spirit Bomb, but as a dedicated transfer method of Ki.)

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Don't know if this could grant anything, but Ki blasts are stated to be chemical projectile weapons

Metaphor.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

He makes Ki in the shape of ghosts.

Those are not ghosts in the actual sense, though, but ki constructs with the shape of ghosts

It is said that it spits ki in the form of ectoplasm, it seems pretty obvious to me that ki can be used to form ghosts/souls

 

[Nullflowerblush]

It is said that it spits ki in the form of ectoplasm

ectoplasm-shaped ki

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Metaphor.

Hyperbole

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Hyperbole

Personification.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Personification.

That's it, it's been a while since i saw you, i miss you, bro.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

ectoplasm-shaped ki

In ectoplasm form, it is not simply just ki, it is ki in ectoplasm form.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

In ectoplasm form, it is not simply just ki, it is ki in ectoplasm form.

Where are you reading this from?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

That the fight begins, whenever we touch on something complex there are fights, how i love it.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I got like 10+ scans of Ki being based

Peak

 

[Cass5373]

It amuses me how certain users deny the obvious

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

It amuses me how certain users deny the obvious

That's very funny, every time we try to get something that's right, there will always be endless denial.

 

[FrolzeurX]

Dragon ball small abilities addition

 

[BlackeJan]

Yes

Huh. Isn’t things in Kakarot are like the canon stuff that would appear in the anime if it had time?

 

[RinneItachi]

And the kishimoto who just confirmed that the jutsu Naruto's most powerful weapon doesn't work against Kid Buu (your conversation)

Literally how most Kid Buu "versus battles" go . He ain't like the other DB characters who wait and see what their opponents can do he's just destruction incarnate. Bro got on Earth and the first thing he did was scream and then blow up the planet.

 

[AdamVhenJP]

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Literally how most Kid Buu "versus battles" go . He ain't like the other DB characters who wait and see what their opponents can do he's just destruction incarnate. Bro got on Earth and the first thing he did was scream and then blow up the planet.

Exactly, Naruto's conversation jutsu would be useless

 

[Jinsama]

tier 0 genkidama

 

[Ednaxel2]

I still think this could be important, I still can't see the images

Dragon Ball Feats: CT123 Edition

So I'm guessing Roshis moon buster is now valid? Before his showings weren't validated due to multiple reasons? It was always valid, people just didn’t wanna admit it.

www.fanverse.org

 

[Ednaxel2]

Cause it supports speed scaling multiplies beyond just 1048c, also is there anyway to scale Goku to the spirit bomb? likely later on in super

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I don't understand calculus and multipliers, but it looks good

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The Tokyo Anime Award Festival 2024 took place on March 8th in Ikebukuro, Tokyo and Akira Toriyama was selected as one of the award winners in the "Contribution to the Animation Industry" category. The announcement had already been known for a few months.

At the event venue, a space was set up displaying Toriyama's manga and illustrations, as well as panels with a brief biography of the mangaka, who created "characters with a unique charm to drive the world crazy" and treated as "a mangaka who created historical works".

The point is that the organizers of the event were certainly not aware of the author's death, which was announced on the same day that the event began. As a result, Toriyama's comment on the award was leaked. This is perhaps the last recorded message from Akira Toriyama:

To be honest, I've never had a great interest in anime, not even in the past. Even when my works have been adapted into an anime format, I end up being ashamed to admit that I haven't watched them much, so I ask the teams to forgive me.

About ten years ago, in fact, I was asked to revise the script for a Dragon Ball anime movie and, at the time, I ended up drawing the characters' backgrounds and doing some simple designs. It was amazing to discover that this kind of work was rewarding and fun. I realized that I could rely on the team members to take care of the hard parts (laughs).

It's really embarrassing for me to receive an award for contribution to the animation industry from the Tokyo Anime Award Festival. Thank you very much!

Regarding the new Dragon Ball animation, Dragon Ball Daima, Toriyama left the following message

I designed not only the story itself, but also the worldview, the character design and the mechas. I believe it will be a production rich in content, not just intense action. I'd be grateful if you could enjoy watching it.

Toriyama's last living comment ended in the most painful way possible with the following statement:

Due to my lifestyle in my youth, I'm not very confident about my health, so I don't know how much more I can do. However, I will strive to create more interesting works. Please continue to support me in the future!

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Daima is gonna be hype! Also makes sense for him to know his general condition wasn't the best. Sad for the artists burdening their bodies with the hope of making it big and even after.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I never liked this work Sand Land, but i will see out of respect for the Master

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Daima is gonna be hype! Also makes sense for him to know his general condition wasn't the best. Sad for the artists burdening their bodies with the hope of making it big and even after.

Daima will definitely be good, i was watching the trailer and it looks really good (although i was disappointed at first )

 

[Jinsama]

didnt think that i would have to thank him for his part when it comes to chibi style

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

didnt think that i would have to thank him for his part when it comes to chibi style

These little monsters are cute, lol

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Dragon balls addition for Goku and Z fighters

Sherong's theme my little tribute to Akira Toriyama I mean, why don't they have it, it's one of the most important points of the plot, Goku used it to search for information from the SSG, he tried to use it to revive North Kai, Z fighters used it to revive all those killed by Cell, Gohan...

vsbattles.com

a small tribute for Akira and his work in form of CRT

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

From what i understand, maybe we can do DBH 6D, because of the infinite lines.

Given that time is infinite, infinite points in time sum up to... well, uncountable infinity. Hence, 4-D. The same logic applies for higher dimensions, uncountably infinite 4D snapshots lead to 5D, uncountably infinite 5D snapshots lead to 6D, so on and so forth.