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Also blatantly says "He already has twice the power of an ordinary person" so that's that
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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Same reason why Oozaru a 10x multiplier with a 10x power level, or SSJ a 50x multiplier with a 50x power level, or all the kaio-kens
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I know this album, but I'm not sure if the scans of this album can be applied to the anime or manga, I know it's licensed by toei but vsbw accepts that kind of stuff as official material? If so, then we could do something with this.
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It occurs to me-Why isn't Episode 43 considered when explaining part of what Goku did in the DBS Anime against Time Skip?
Specifically King Kai's diagnosis. I want the word prediction to be explicitly noted as different from normal predicting mid-combat that Goku was doing in base form or even in Super Saiyan Blue, because they are EXPLICITLY describing what Goku was doing in the middle of Kaioken (and more specifically Goku moving in Time Skip) to help create this Ki Disorder Goku has throughout the Episode. When it comes to his Precog Justification that was removed, I mean. Not any Time Travel or Speed.
SUB
King Kai: "Not only the Kaioken...But I heard you were predicting a few seconds in time at the Martial Arts Match, right?"
Goku: "Y-Yeah..."
King Kai: "Doing risky things like that is bad, you know?! Your mind and your senses drift apart unknowingly, and you won't be able to fight properly. You won't get stronger."
(I've also seen versions say "Reading things earlier" as well.)
DUB
King Kai: "The Kaioken wasn't your only gamble. That fight with Hit, when you were predicting his moves, you weren't just guessing! You were forcing your way into the future to find an advantage, weren't you?!"
Goku: "Yeah, so?"
King Kai: "So you're pushing the very limit of what a Mortal Being can do! If you keep straining yourself, the connections between your mind, body, and energy will unravel and you won't be able to fight at all! You won't get any stronger."
Now, obviously, the Dub's interpretation is a lot more pointed and descriptive-Generally speaking even able to be described as fairly different, but the Sub still can have some information gleaned that leans towards precog. Specifically because of what they're referring to and how they're separating what Goku was doing PRE-Kaioken to POST-Kaioken. Goku is explicitly not predicting in the 'normal way' in both versions, (and whatever he did is what allowed him to match Hit whilst using the Kaioken) they just go about explaining that differently. Though admittedly, the Sub is a lot more vague compared to it's Dub counterpart.
Specifically King Kai's diagnosis. I want the word prediction to be explicitly noted as different from normal predicting mid-combat that Goku was doing in base form or even in Super Saiyan Blue, because they are EXPLICITLY describing what Goku was doing in the middle of Kaioken (and more specifically Goku moving in Time Skip) to help create this Ki Disorder Goku has throughout the Episode. When it comes to his Precog Justification that was removed, I mean. Not any Time Travel or Speed.
SUB
King Kai: "Not only the Kaioken...But I heard you were predicting a few seconds in time at the Martial Arts Match, right?"
Goku: "Y-Yeah..."
King Kai: "Doing risky things like that is bad, you know?! Your mind and your senses drift apart unknowingly, and you won't be able to fight properly. You won't get stronger."
(I've also seen versions say "Reading things earlier" as well.)
DUB
King Kai: "The Kaioken wasn't your only gamble. That fight with Hit, when you were predicting his moves, you weren't just guessing! You were forcing your way into the future to find an advantage, weren't you?!"
Goku: "Yeah, so?"
King Kai: "So you're pushing the very limit of what a Mortal Being can do! If you keep straining yourself, the connections between your mind, body, and energy will unravel and you won't be able to fight at all! You won't get any stronger."
Now, obviously, the Dub's interpretation is a lot more pointed and descriptive-Generally speaking even able to be described as fairly different, but the Sub still can have some information gleaned that leans towards precog. Specifically because of what they're referring to and how they're separating what Goku was doing PRE-Kaioken to POST-Kaioken. Goku is explicitly not predicting in the 'normal way' in both versions, (and whatever he did is what allowed him to match Hit whilst using the Kaioken) they just go about explaining that differently. Though admittedly, the Sub is a lot more vague compared to it's Dub counterpart.
Nullflowerblush
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so analytical prediction
Nullflowerblush
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Either the video does not feature a page for credits, or the booklet lacks any credits, which means we don't really know who wrote or produced the material; at least we know Shuiesha had a hand in writing the El Manga Legendario. To that end, this is about as credible as The Anime Adventure Game.
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I mean didn't everyone know that? It's also in line with how toriyama works. Except he frealed up the system.
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I mean, I just think it's weird for it to be classified as such when they specify he's not doing that and instead something else that allows him to predict "better" than the analytical prediction he was doing the entirety of the fight before.
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This Toei book only serves as even more proof to add to the DB multiverse, since nothing that is there refutes the work and only confirms it even more, But I'll find out how it's made and stuff
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the forcing yourself into the future shit was mistranslated
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Me forcing my way into the future by waiting harder for my chicken nuggies to finish in the micheal wave
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Dragon Ball Z (Toei) Upgrade Part 3 - The Meta, Shifting
The Final Trilogy of The Recent DBZ Toei Upgrades most likely, before the final scaling chain blog gets created. This calc using the new afterlife size got accepted so new upgrade Thats it pretty minor stuff (Sadly I couldn’t get the timeframe lowered)
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oh that's what they call it now?
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That entire otherworld tournament arc made no sense
Dude oneshots SPC, then is matched by base Goku
Yamcha fodderizes ooblong who actually gave pikkon a fight
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For what ability?
I think they've (some) have been added under the power of the verse section were it links the blog regarding AP and speed
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Potential Unleashed and Orange Piccolo probably (the latter of which should also give him Transformation)
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The brutal difference in size between Shenron and Ultimate Shenron taking the Kamisama Temple as a reference.
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SBC should also give Statistic Amplification, since it increases Piccolo's PL when used
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Or is that damage boost? They're basically the same ability
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Might be Damage Boost tbh
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Yet another update for DB
vsbattles.com
Small DB Revisions
Standard equipment for Korin: Senzu Beans (Korin is the only one who grows senzu beans, and his tower is the only place in the world they are grown) Character summary for Cymbal: Cymbal is a mutated Namekian, and the third son of King Piccolo since his release from the Electric Rice Cooker...
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UnfortunatelyHeroes got type 1 conceptual manipulation?
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I see.
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Why is that unfortunate?Unfortunately
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Because soon someone comes and knocks it down, I know exactly where it's going every time, I won't celebrate, because there was already someone there disagreeing and we saw that.
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Ki Manipulation. Goku's page says it allows him to strengthen his skin, and "strengthen" is blue with a link to statistics amplification. Since they both use ki, I thought it'd be fine if Piccolo had it on his profile as well
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Ki Manipulation (Can be used defensively and offensively, to strengthen his skin or to fire ki blasts, which can home in on targets, and form defensive barriers)
I copied this from Piccolo's page. Goku's page has the exact same wording, but on Piccolo's page, "strengthen" is linked as "Aura" while on Goku's page, "strengthen" is linked as Statistics Amplification.
Here's the one for Goku's page
Ki Manipulation (Can be used defensively and offensively, to strengthen his skin or to fire ki blasts, which he can control telekinetically to home in on targets, form defensive barriers
For "defensively and offensively", it's marked as Aura. While Piccolo's page only has "offensively" marked as Energy Projection
I copied this from Piccolo's page. Goku's page has the exact same wording, but on Piccolo's page, "strengthen" is linked as "Aura" while on Goku's page, "strengthen" is linked as Statistics Amplification.
Here's the one for Goku's page
Ki Manipulation (Can be used defensively and offensively, to strengthen his skin or to fire ki blasts, which he can control telekinetically to home in on targets, form defensive barriers
For "defensively and offensively", it's marked as Aura. While Piccolo's page only has "offensively" marked as Energy Projection
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Yeah but the counter arguments I saw weren't exactly solid.
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But I hope for a downgrade, we have a moderator who disagreed
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Nobody disagreed with CM type 1 just 1 disagree with NEP CM Type 1 was unanimously agreed by every staff member and everyone in the crt what are you talking about?
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Hello I just recently joined hope I would be helpful
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