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He is searching for ki so not sure about cosmic awareness.
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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I giggle like an idiot everytime I see someone who never engages or talks in this topic mysteriously like a certain comment just because it leans towards their personal bias.
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That’s just clairvoyance.
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This looks good
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I thought basically every film was considered canon to the Toei Anime continuity due to Fusion Reborn (which is considered Toei Canon) making everyone cameo.
But even if it wasn't, they use the same subspace in the LSSJ Broly film anyway, so IT in those films/Toei Continity simply functions differently. I mean, even in that film they had it go to locations with no energy (which is not possible because, you know, the very mechanics of Instant Transmission)-Which I've brought up before.
Simply put, Toei IT =/= Canon IT.
Eden_Warlock99
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The Daizenshuu places some movies as a separate dimension from the anime tho
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nah, most of the movies are impossible to fit in the timeline
the Broly movies are also considered non canon to toei
Nullflowerblush
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What happens if Super Saiyan 2 is accepted as 2x Super Saiyan?
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Downgrades
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Now intertwine DB's time with causality (like Ben 10 or GOW) and that's it, Acausality type 4 for Goku and etc.
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I think we have something like that for DBH.
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What's in DBH doesn't go to DBS. Despite the opposite happening.
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How far down?
Is it, like, Third Grade stops being 10x?
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I mean......depends, you say 2x as in 2x superior to grade 3 or 2x regular ssj1?
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These are all the active Dragon Ball CRT's, right?
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I think the last one just need profiles unlocked for upgrades to be applied.
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Probably not sure
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I mean nothing inherently contradicts it. Of course it's logically much stronger than any form of Ssj.
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There must be a statement like that in a dragon ball guide.
Considering the focus on time travel that entire arcs have had.
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In DB there is an explanation of timelines, they are separated from each other and there is a void between them, it is mentioned by Trunks that changes in the past do not affect the future in any way, even though a God can affect spacetime and beyond him mentioning that the space-time flow is different in each timeline, suggesting that each story generates a totally different timeline.
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What is said in Japanese? Because that's good.
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Twice as powerful as regular Super Saiyan, which, of course, sets a precedent that does not allow for Third Grade to be 10x as powerful as regular Super Saiyan.
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Ah, so it doesn't say anything about the fabric of reality being composed of interwoven systems (causality). Thank you.
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Not that good. Meh.
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O Ssj3 already have the multiplier accepted here?
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All but like two, and those are Wrath of the Dragon and Bojack Unbound. And yet we still count the others because the very continuity of events, (such as the Sacred Water from the Garlic Jr. Saga, which is directly related to the film, or Cooler's appearance, despite the fact canonically Goku would be on Yardrat at that time, should easily be able to use SSJ {where he clearly struggles to use it in film}, and should have Instant Transmission.)
But uh, furthermore, I'm NOT crazy and Fusion Reborn IS currently accepted. So no, yeah, Broly movie (as Paragus cameos in the film), would be indirectly Toei Canon.
- Note: Most of the Dragon Ball Z Movies are not considered part of the anime continuity, with only some exceptions (Dead Zone, Cooler's Revenge, Fusion Reborn and Wrath of the Dragon)
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I think that it would downgrade grade 3's 10x statement
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4, garlic jr's first movie, cooler's first movie, wrath if the dragon and fusion reborn
Outside of fusion reborn and garlic jr all of them fit
Garlic jr has a saga there, so we ignore the contradctions because it is directly showed in the anime
No, cooler's happens after comes back, in the 3 year time skip that happens between trunk's time travel and the androids appearing
i Don't see how the second one matters here?
No, the note specifies that only those 4 movies are accepted as being canon, hence why it says that "most of the movies are not part of the anime continuity), for any other movies you would need to make a thread to accept them, the broly movies were rejected as being canon when one tried to make them tho, so good luckBut uh, furthermore, I'm NOT crazy and Fusion Reborn IS currently accepted. So no, yeah, Broly movie (as Paragus cameos in the film), would be indirectly Toei Canon.
Which means that it is applicable to Toei Instant Transmission.
- Note: Most of the Dragon Ball Z Movies are not considered part of the anime continuity, with only some exceptions (Dead Zone, Cooler's Revenge, Fusion Reborn and Wrath of the Dragon)
Dragon Ball (Toei)
For detailed information about this series from the Dragon Ball Wiki, you can click here. The official TV adaptation of the Dragon Ball manga continuity, the main Dragon Ball Z anime follows a relatively similar plot to the manga, with Son Goku and his friends and children protecting the Earth...
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The film takes place after Future Trunks's arrival.
Cooler's motivation for invading Earth is to "avenge" the death of Frieza.
idk
maybe he lacked the motivation
He does not have to use Instant Transmission.
Nullflowerblush
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Is this enough to prove Super Saiyan 4 is 5,000x, scaling to Golden Great Ape?
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I mean it’s using accepted multipliers it’s like combining SSJ and Kaioken its fine
Nullflowerblush
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Regular humans are half of Goku, right? Was that what was accepted?
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Nope
Nullflowerblush
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Eh. I should still be able to get Mr. Satan into Tier 8.
Nullflowerblush
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I want Tier 8 decently populated with no-shows like Mr. Satan and hotshots like Chi-Chi.
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Ain't that because beginning of OG Dragon Ball Goku's PL is 10 while an average human's PL is 5?
And yet a PL of 18,000 is like 5-B or some shit
I hate power levels
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