All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[Omegabronic]

All but like two, and those are Wrath of the Dragon and Bojack Unbound.

4, garlic jr's first movie, cooler's first movie, wrath if the dragon and fusion reborn

And yet we still count the others because the very continuity of events

Outside of fusion reborn and garlic jr all of them fit

(such as the Sacred Water from the Garlic Jr. Saga, which is directly related to the film

Garlic jr has a saga there, so we ignore the contradctions because it is directly showed in the anime

, or Cooler's appearance, despite the fact canonically Goku would be on Yardrat at that time

No, cooler's happens after comes back, in the 3 year time skip that happens between trunk's time travel and the androids appearing

, should easily be able to use SSJ {where he clearly struggles to use it in film}, and should have Instant Transmission.)

i Don't see how the second one matters here?

But uh, furthermore, I'm NOT crazy and Fusion Reborn IS currently accepted. So no, yeah, Broly movie (as Paragus cameos in the film), would be indirectly Toei Canon.

• Note: Most of the Dragon Ball Z Movies are not considered part of the anime continuity, with only some exceptions (Dead Zone, Cooler's Revenge, Fusion Reborn and Wrath of the Dragon)
  
  
  

  Dragon Ball (Toei)

  For detailed information about this series from the Dragon Ball Wiki, you can click here. The official TV adaptation of the Dragon Ball manga continuity, the main Dragon Ball Z anime follows a relatively similar plot to the manga, with Son Goku and his friends and children protecting the Earth...

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Which means that it is applicable to Toei Instant Transmission.

No, the note specifies that only those 4 movies are accepted as being canon, hence why it says that "most of the movies are not part of the anime continuity), for any other movies you would need to make a thread to accept them, the broly movies were rejected as being canon when one tried to make them tho, so good luck

 

[Nullflowerblush]

despite the fact canonically Goku would be on Yardrat at that time

The film takes place after Future Trunks's arrival.
Cooler's motivation for invading Earth is to "avenge" the death of Frieza.

should easily be able to use SSJ {where he clearly struggles to use it in film}

idk
maybe he lacked the motivation

and should have Instant Transmission

He does not have to use Instant Transmission.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Is this enough to prove Super Saiyan 4 is 5,000x, scaling to Golden Great Ape?

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Is this enough to prove Super Saiyan 4 is 5,000x, scaling to Golden Great Ape?

I mean it’s using accepted multipliers it’s like combining SSJ and Kaioken its fine

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Regular humans are half of Goku, right? Was that what was accepted?

 

[KingTempest]

Nope

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Eh. I should still be able to get Mr. Satan into Tier 8.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I want Tier 8 decently populated with no-shows like Mr. Satan and hotshots like Chi-Chi.

 

[Nierre]

Damn Chichi's P&A looks amazing

 

[CloverDragon03]

Nope

Ain't that because beginning of OG Dragon Ball Goku's PL is 10 while an average human's PL is 5?

And yet a PL of 18,000 is like 5-B or some shit

I hate power levels

 

[KingTempest]

Ain't that because beginning of OG Dragon Ball Goku's PL is 10 while an average human's PL is 5?

Also blatantly says "He already has twice the power of an ordinary person" so that's that

 

[CloverDragon03]

Also blatantly says "He already has twice the power of an ordinary person" so that's that

I really feel like this implies that power levels were intended to be linear but then Toriyama just screwed it up

 

[KingTempest]

I really feel like this implies that power levels were intended to be linear but then Toriyama just screwed it up

Same reason why Oozaru a 10x multiplier with a 10x power level, or SSJ a 50x multiplier with a 50x power level, or all the kaio-kens

 

[Kroneii1]

Link to full material here

I know this album, but I'm not sure if the scans of this album can be applied to the anime or manga, I know it's licensed by toei but vsbw accepts that kind of stuff as official material? If so, then we could do something with this.

 

[RedReaper616]

It occurs to me-Why isn't Episode 43 considered when explaining part of what Goku did in the DBS Anime against Time Skip?

Specifically King Kai's diagnosis. I want the word prediction to be explicitly noted as different from normal predicting mid-combat that Goku was doing in base form or even in Super Saiyan Blue, because they are EXPLICITLY describing what Goku was doing in the middle of Kaioken (and more specifically Goku moving in Time Skip) to help create this Ki Disorder Goku has throughout the Episode. When it comes to his Precog Justification that was removed, I mean. Not any Time Travel or Speed.



SUB

King Kai: "Not only the Kaioken...But I heard you were predicting a few seconds in time at the Martial Arts Match, right?"

Goku: "Y-Yeah..."

King Kai: "Doing risky things like that is bad, you know?! Your mind and your senses drift apart unknowingly, and you won't be able to fight properly. You won't get stronger."

(I've also seen versions say "Reading things earlier" as well.)

DUB

King Kai: "The Kaioken wasn't your only gamble. That fight with Hit, when you were predicting his moves, you weren't just guessing! You were forcing your way into the future to find an advantage, weren't you?!"

Goku: "Yeah, so?"

King Kai: "So you're pushing the very limit of what a Mortal Being can do! If you keep straining yourself, the connections between your mind, body, and energy will unravel and you won't be able to fight at all! You won't get any stronger."



Now, obviously, the Dub's interpretation is a lot more pointed and descriptive-Generally speaking even able to be described as fairly different, but the Sub still can have some information gleaned that leans towards precog. Specifically because of what they're referring to and how they're separating what Goku was doing PRE-Kaioken to POST-Kaioken. Goku is explicitly not predicting in the 'normal way' in both versions, (and whatever he did is what allowed him to match Hit whilst using the Kaioken) they just go about explaining that differently. Though admittedly, the Sub is a lot more vague compared to it's Dub counterpart.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

so analytical prediction

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I know this album, but I'm not sure if the scans of this album can be applied to the anime or manga, I know it's licensed by toei but vsbw accepts that kind of stuff as official material? If so, then we could do something with this.

Either the video does not feature a page for credits, or the booklet lacks any credits, which means we don't really know who wrote or produced the material; at least we know Shuiesha had a hand in writing the El Manga Legendario. To that end, this is about as credible as The Anime Adventure Game.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

I really feel like this implies that power levels were intended to be linear but then Toriyama just screwed it up

I mean didn't everyone know that? It's also in line with how toriyama works. Except he frealed up the system.

 

[RedReaper616]

so analytical prediction

I mean, I just think it's weird for it to be classified as such when they specify he's not doing that and instead something else that allows him to predict "better" than the analytical prediction he was doing the entirety of the fight before.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I know this album, but I'm not sure if the scans of this album can be applied to the anime or manga, I know it's licensed by toei but vsbw accepts that kind of stuff as official material? If so, then we could do something with this.

This Toei book only serves as even more proof to add to the DB multiverse, since nothing that is there refutes the work and only confirms it even more, But I'll find out how it's made and stuff

 

[Spilxson2]

Should Piccolo have Statistics Amplification on his profile?

 

[TiltedFN]

It occurs to me-Why isn't Episode 43 considered when explaining part of what Goku did in the DBS Anime against Time Skip?

Specifically King Kai's diagnosis. I want the word prediction to be explicitly noted as different from normal predicting mid-combat that Goku was doing in base form or even in Super Saiyan Blue, because they are EXPLICITLY describing what Goku was doing in the middle of Kaioken (and more specifically Goku moving in Time Skip) to help create this Ki Disorder Goku has throughout the Episode. When it comes to his Precog Justification that was removed, I mean. Not any Time Travel or Speed.



SUB

King Kai: "Not only the Kaioken...But I heard you were predicting a few seconds in time at the Martial Arts Match, right?"

Goku: "Y-Yeah..."

King Kai: "Doing risky things like that is bad, you know?! Your mind and your senses drift apart unknowingly, and you won't be able to fight properly. You won't get stronger."

(I've also seen versions say "Reading things earlier" as well.)

DUB

King Kai: "The Kaioken wasn't your only gamble. That fight with Hit, when you were predicting his moves, you weren't just guessing! You were forcing your way into the future to find an advantage, weren't you?!"

Goku: "Yeah, so?"

King Kai: "So you're pushing the very limit of what a Mortal Being can do! If you keep straining yourself, the connections between your mind, body, and energy will unravel and you won't be able to fight at all! You won't get any stronger."



Now, obviously, the Dub's interpretation is a lot more pointed and descriptive-Generally speaking even able to be described as fairly different, but the Sub still can have some information gleaned that leans towards precog. Specifically because of what they're referring to and how they're separating what Goku was doing PRE-Kaioken to POST-Kaioken. Goku is explicitly not predicting in the 'normal way' in both versions, (and whatever he did is what allowed him to match Hit whilst using the Kaioken) they just go about explaining that differently. Though admittedly, the Sub is a lot more vague compared to it's Dub counterpart.

the forcing yourself into the future shit was mistranslated

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

the forcing yourself into the future shit was mistranslated

Me forcing my way into the future by waiting harder for my chicken nuggies to finish in the micheal wave

 

[TiltedFN]

Dragon Ball Z (Toei) Upgrade Part 3 - The Meta, Shifting

The Final Trilogy of The Recent DBZ Toei Upgrades most likely, before the final scaling chain blog gets created. This calc using the new afterlife size got accepted so new upgrade Thats it pretty minor stuff (Sadly I couldn’t get the timeframe lowered)

vsbattles.com

 

[TiltedFN]

Galaxy level cell is so based

 

[Nullflowerblush]

oh that's what they call it now?

 

[TiltedFN]

Pikkon one shotting cell is madness

 

[Spilxson2]

Why are there no calculations under the Toei section?

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

Pikkon one shotting cell is madness

That entire otherworld tournament arc made no sense

Dude oneshots SPC, then is matched by base Goku

Yamcha fodderizes ooblong who actually gave pikkon a fight

 

[Spilxson2]

3-B Yamcha?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Should Piccolo have Statistics Amplification on his profile?

For what ability?

Why are there no calculations under the Toei section?

I think they've (some) have been added under the power of the verse section were it links the blog regarding AP and speed

 

[CloverDragon03]

For what ability?

Potential Unleashed and Orange Piccolo probably (the latter of which should also give him Transformation)

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The brutal difference in size between Shenron and Ultimate Shenron taking the Kamisama Temple as a reference.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

SBC should also give Statistic Amplification, since it increases Piccolo's PL when used

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Or is that damage boost? They're basically the same ability

 

[CloverDragon03]

Or is that damage boost? They're basically the same ability

Might be Damage Boost tbh

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Yet another update for DB

Small DB Revisions

Standard equipment for Korin: Senzu Beans (Korin is the only one who grows senzu beans, and his tower is the only place in the world they are grown) Character summary for Cymbal: Cymbal is a mutated Namekian, and the third son of King Piccolo since his release from the Electric Rice Cooker...

vsbattles.com

 

[JirensMom]

Heroes got type 1 conceptual manipulation ?

 

[Roun12]

@Vietthai96 and the SDBH crew after finally getting Conceptual Heroes.

 

[TiltedFN]