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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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Now that you mentioned power of friendship, I remember that a long time ago there was accepted a page for Power of Love, which scaled to Ribrianne gang and A18, what happened with it?
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Bio-Broly doesn't count if that's what you mean.
Pikkon onetapped SP Cell while he had weights on, and while restricting his power.
Nullflowerblush
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Why not? He is an identical regeneration of the original Broly.
The point was that Koyama's claims of Broly being the strongest are bogus, not that Broly was less powerful than Cell.
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Oh yeah, for sure.
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Gogeta. I guess.
Gogeta's Fusion Reborn key receives... Purification (Type 2; Via Stardust Breaker; Purified the evil Ki within and destroyed Janemba) Gogeta's Dragon Ball GT key receives... Enhanced Energy Transmutation-based Purification & Limited Power Nullification (Type 2; Transformed Omega Shenron's...
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Goku GT has a very interesting feat, he shook all over after life, it was felt in Ema's palace and he even fell when Goku raised his ki in base form
BlastX
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Second Coming Gohan is the same as Buu Saga Gohan Toei, he stopped training, it's just that by his rematch with Broly he had Super Saiyan 2 which he didn't have in the fight 7 years ago.
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At best, i think you could get an "Anime only" tabber for Toei Ki´s manipulation on the main Ki manipulation page
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Which ones? I imagine it's probably from the specials/movies, but still
(just in case, I don't believe in any kind of Scaling from Abriged Goku to Abriged Broly)
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I know that’s how the continuity shakes out, (and that when we count the non-canon films we overlook their contradictory natures), but given this is unrelated to on-site powerscaling: Gohan specifically states he has powered up considerably since his fight in the previous Broly film. Specifically implying he trained in the 7 year gap, which then implies he expected his Base form to do significant damage on Broly (based on the strength/information he had on him) 7 years ago. Allegedly, Koyama backs this up in a tweet, (saying that due to Production Time they hadn’t accounted for the narrative change on Gohan’s strength), but I’ve never found a source for this—Ever.
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Frieza's multi-star feat, broly and probably garlic jr. Buu was also stated to be capable of destroying galaxies
He was able to tank a full beating from Broly so he should scale to him (or at least have an "at most" rating for that)
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how do yall feel about ssj gohan hypothetically scaling around super perfect cell tier at full power
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It seems good
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I feel totally fine with it. It's implied several times that SSJ Gohan > SSJ Goku, and he even thinks Cell MUST be holding back more because of the comparison in power he drew between himself and Cell. And while Cell ADMITTEDLY didn't use his full power until he saw SSJ2, it's heavily implied that the power he used against SSJ Goku was not insignificant, and even FURTHER, Cell implies if Goku had a Senzu Goku could have won. It's even more obvious to me given that Goku gave Cell a Bean specifically to prevent Cell from rage quitting because he felt SSJ Gohan was enough to do enough pressure to say "**** this I'm out," before Gohan actually unleashed his power.
It also assists in getting the real multiplier for SSJ2 established, which is 2x, not 10x.
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But that's not solar system level (and Buu's bits is post Cell, I also think it's not necessarily prural)
I understand Broly, I just don't believe in his scaling, because from the beginning he seemed superior to everyone, when he was starting out small (he defeats Vegeta with one blow) Broly wasn't taking him seriously, he probably wasn't using his full power
Broly beat them so badly (Vegeta with one blow) that everyone would prefer to be with any other previous movie villain. Within the Abriged movie it is made clear that no one came close to him in power level.
Where the hell is Garlick Jn's feat. (I don't remember his movie well), he doesn't do anything in his episode, and the Kai version is not canon
The mention of KaioShin probably refers to Kid Buu, not Fat Buu, and unfortunately, we never see Goku SS3 being comparable to Kid Buu in the Buu Bits, only fighting Fat Buu (Also, Goku literally says that Kid Buu is stronger than him and Vegeta.)
That the series reaches Galactic levels, they do (Kid Buu, Super Buu [any Buu above this], Gohan [Possibly Gotenks], Vegetto, Broly), but Goku just... doesn't get there, never gets to scale to some galactic/multigalactic and prior to that I don't know how many multipliers are valid in the series, that is, if there are enough for it to even reach the Solar System
Depending on how it goes, we could very well just have a multi-stellar Cell in Abriged.
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I support it
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The great thing is that we can allow gag feats for the series, since it's literally a comedic parody.
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Yeah it's above it? Also Frieza destroying planet vegeta in the anime was calced at large star with everyone scaling to solar system with later multipliers
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That Heros nerf still kinda hurts. We took that shit laying down it feels like. Has glassman ever made a downgrade thread that's gotten rejected?
Spinoirr
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I wish
Killerdrone123
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Ningens we need votes
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I might be confusing myself, what is the multi-stellar feat?
but you don't have multipliers (or at least not many)
It only exists up to Kaioken x4 in this canon and the best you can do with the supersayan is to scale it above the ozaru (x10)
There is no reason to misuse the word several and give it a x3 with zarbon or others,
There is no guide to find the exact multiplier of ss grade 2 and 3 only has a mention of percentages that do not even reach x2 at grade 2
You have no mention of exact percentages of Freeza except for 100%
Furthermore, the feat should be reviewed, because considering the pacing of Abriged it is even possible that they increased the speed somewhat (for example, I think that the feat of Piccolo destroying the moon happens at a higher speed than the original anime)
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The toei only one where he destroys innumerable stars
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Tbf that feat feels a bit iffy. The background changes completely: not only the stars behind the planet, but also the stars at its surroundings.
Also i think i've seen that Kakarott (which iirc there was a crt to make it canon) does not show the hole at all
Also i think i've seen that Kakarott (which iirc there was a crt to make it canon) does not show the hole at all
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He made a big downgrade thread for sonic the hedgehog but at best the only thing that happened were abilities getting new justifications, but nothing too big. I'm fairly certain he made a dbh downgrade thread like last year but everything was rejected too.
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In what chapter does it happen?
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Not chapter it's in the original anime
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If the feat doesn't exist in the Abriged continuity, why even mention it?
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it does iicr
Eden_Warlock99
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Why da Phy Demon King Piccolo do so much damage
Excellence616
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Hulk vs Broly REMATCH
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hulk_(Marvel_Comics) vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Broly_(Dragon_Ball_Heroes)#Base SBA Speed not equal
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So are we getting factually correct SS2 SS3 multipliers with that DBZ kakarot thread?
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supposedly
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Tbh they don’t make sense with our current scaling that insists the only power up Gohan got was his SS2 and not an additional rage amp considering SS1 Gohan would’ve been more than enough to kill full power perfect cell yet we accept the later as substantially superior to him.
Its either Gohan unlocked SS2 and got 10x stronger via rage to stomp Buff Cell or Buff Cell is not 10x FP perfect cell as originally thought.
There is also downscaling since SS2 is just 100x base practically every SS2 is baseline 4-B in base now.
Its either Gohan unlocked SS2 and got 10x stronger via rage to stomp Buff Cell or Buff Cell is not 10x FP perfect cell as originally thought.
There is also downscaling since SS2 is just 100x base practically every SS2 is baseline 4-B in base now.
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Do you believe that Zeno can destroy the entire Dragon Ball Multiverse with just a single snap of his fingers?
