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I dunnoTBF he was the first one to fall anyway even without that hahahaha
I mean maybe their is something in one piece that could give him an edge
But I dunno much about it One Piece to deliberate
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I dunnoTBF he was the first one to fall anyway even without that hahahaha
Soon it will be downgraded, thank goodness, there is no point in it, it does not affect and is not shown to affect at such a level.2-C omnipresence is hard countered by 2-A range almighty
Actually it still fits standards.Soon it will be downgraded, thank goodness, there is no point in it, it does not affect and is not shown to affect at such a level.
Were you on that thread that was demoting everyone who had reach with fate manipulation?Actually it still fits standards.
Yes. Almighty still affects separate timelines/possibilities. Them repeatedly being stated to be separate with their own present and future. They can't be simply branched off if they have different presents.Were you on that thread that was demoting everyone who had reach with fate manipulation?
What happened to that thread? The notification is not appearing for some time and I looked for it and did not find itYes. Almighty still affects separate timelines/possibilities. Them repeatedly being stated to be separate with their own present and future. They can't be simply branched off if they have different presents.
Probably closed.What happened to that thread? The notification is not appearing for some time and I looked for it and did not find it
Jeez, I wanted a demotion of people who use manipulation of fateProbably closed.
Goku It would have zeno's EE, I don't know if any of these verses can withstand zeno's erasure. It would also have the sealing and null power of janemba which are passive (if I'm not mistaken, they are), at least in its first key. These are things that I thought about here, I don't know if the verses can combat that.Keep in mind that Naruto, Goku and Ichigo would have EE Hax and no one (to my knowledge) in one piece resist EE
Janemba's Reality Warping, Law Manipulation, Power Nullification, and Sealing are passive, yesGoku It would have zeno's EE, I don't know if any of these verses can withstand zeno's erasure. It would also have the sealing and null power of janemba which are passive (if I'm not mistaken, they are), at least in its first key. These are things that I thought about here, I don't know if the verses can combat that.
He shouldn't have Law Manipulation as agreed on the thread where he was to be upgraded. The others yeh, pretty much fine.Janemba's Reality Warping, Law Manipulation, Power Nullification, and Sealing are passive, yes
Why is that?He shouldn't have Law Manipulation as agreed on the thread where he was to be upgraded
Why would he have it?Why is that?
His law manipulation was based on that he changed the rules of life and death. But that wasn't because of him, that was a chain reaction since Enma couldn't maintain said laws.Why is that?
The profile makes it sound like it considering it can do things Shenron and Porunga can't, with no in-universe limitationDoes super shenron's rw have layers compared to lesser dragons?
Torombo himself has shown not to be able to affect the Gods, but this is something the SS can easily do.Does super shenron's rw have layers compared to lesser dragons?
Well, yes. Since the super shenron has rw 2-C while the other dragons go up to 5-A if I remember correctly.The profile makes it sound like it considering it can do things Shenron and Porunga can't, with no in-universe limitation
I could see it based on the "he can grant any wish", but for site standards that's not enough. On top of the general limitations of the dragons based on their creators power.Does super shenron's rw have layers compared to lesser dragons?
A headcanon of mine, but I think the super shenron should have ee too, and one as good as the Hakaishin.I'm fairly certain there's quite a few layers to EE in Dragon Ball
Goku < Beerus (threatened to erase Goku even though he resisted Energy of Destruction) < Gods of Destruction resisting others Destroyers' EE < Zeno
Composite Dragon Ball Goku *****
About DB's Infinite Universe @LordGriffin1000 said what ?His law manipulation was based on that he changed the rules of life and death. But that wasn't because of him, that was a chain reaction since Enma couldn't maintain said laws.
I understand. Maybe later on the work will better show a difference in layers between the rw of the dragons.I could see it based on the "he can grant any wish", but for site standards that's not enough. On top of the general limitations of the dragons based on their creators power.
I told you what the agreement was already. Deagonx is gonna make his thread when he's free.About DB's Infinite Universe @LordGriffin1000 said what ?
I hope he doesn't have a spare time lolI told you what the agreement was already. Deagonx is gonna make his thread when he's free.
I told you what the agreement was already. Deagonx is gonna make his thread when he's free.
May God hear youSo... probably never
That's not layered resistance or EE.I'm fairly certain there's quite a few layers to EE in Dragon Ball
Goku < Beerus (threatened to erase Goku even though he resisted Energy of Destruction) < Gods of Destruction resisting others Destroyers' EE < Zeno
Composite Dragon Ball Goku *****
Explain how its notThat's not layered resistance.
It's AP based resistance.Explain how its not
Beerus can erase Goku even though he resisted Power of Destruction, Destroyers aren't affected by others Destroyers' Power of Destruction which as seen before can bypass one layer of resistance, and Zeno completely trumps them all by being able to erase them
???It's AP based resistance.
That's not how we treat hakai. Goku resisting is taken as legit resistance.It's AP based resistance.
I meant as an in verse thing. They can still EE those with higher AP cross verse if they lack resistance.That's not how we treat hakai. Goku resisting is taken as legit resistance.
UESDragon ball just has a unique circumstance with the AP and EE correlation that pretty much benefits them in a lot of cross verse scenarios.
I'll remind you and everyone else that statistics are equal all across the boardGoku It would have zeno's EE, I don't know if any of these verses can withstand zeno's erasure. It would also have the sealing and null power of janemba which are passive (if I'm not mistaken, they are), at least in its first key. These are things that I thought about here, I don't know if the verses can combat that.
Lol yea. This stuff gets weird.UES(like the ki barriers Vegeta uses his ki barrier to resist an absolute zero attack Trunks uses ki barrier to resist petrificaiton from dabura)
Then what the hell is the pointI'll remind you and everyone else that statistics are equal all across the board
That includes all Stats, Hax Potency, Resistance Potency and Layers
So Naruto and Ichigo having EE resistance would counter Zeno's EE
Naruto and Ichigo (and even Luffy I believe) has resistance to Power Null
And some Naruto and Bleach Characters have resistance to Sealing