Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[TiltedFN]

Is yours or his finished?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Is yours or his finished?

Mine is finished

 

[TiltedFN]

can we start crts then?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

can we start crts then?

No one's stopping you

 

[TiltedFN]

lol i already tried on a previous crt, nobody responded, ill let yall do that when youre ready, and decide which blog to use.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Missing speed blog for anime and manga characters

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Manga blog for scale is also required

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Manga blog for scale is also required

Or we just do the continuities one at a time? You know, like what the current plan is

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Is yours or his finished?

Mine is finished

Also Luffy check Discord

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Or we just do the continuities one at a time? You know, like what the current plan is

It seems right, since he created a blog for cosmology, I think it is now necessary to open a CRT for those who scale with direct 2-C

 

[TiltedFN]

godofice, whats your discord?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Mine is finished

Also Luffy check Discord

right bro

 

[Omegabronic]

I think Deadzone has contradictions but is accepted because it explains stuff within the series

nah, the only reason that it is accepted is because there is a saga on the anime about it, without that we would have discarded it long ago

same as Fusion Reborn and it’s referenced and Goku notes that this is gonna be his first time going ssj4 with the fusion dance instead of the fusion dance in general

scan for the scene?

it should be high 3-A at the lowest but yeah I can see 2-C

if it a "Possibly" i would be completely satisfied tvh

They should be Low 2-C from Buuhan and then he should have 2-C via chain reaction

imagine that, kid buu is stronger than buuhan in the anime and yet it is inferior than a random technique done by him lol

 

[Omegabronic]

guys we have a blog on the speed and powerscaling currently for the 3-A values for a reason, if the thing gets replaced than the blogs also have to

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

guys we have a blog on the speed and powerscaling currently for the 3-A values for a reason, if the thing gets replaced than the blogs also have to

I've already dealt with the speed scaling chain values

DBS Infinite Speed

Assuming Post-BoG Base Goku as 1x baseline. X = Baseline Infinite speed. Lowballed.

SSG Goku: Baseline
Post-SSG Absorption SS Goku: 50x
Post BoG Base Goku: At least 100x (scales to at least twice the previous level of power of his Super Saiyan form)
SS Goku: At least 5,000x
SS2, SS3, SSG: At least 5,000x
SSB: At least 250,000x
SSBKKx10: At least 2,500,000x
SSB Post Hit-rematch: At least 2,500,000x
SSG Early ToP: At least 2,500,000x
SSB Early ToP: At least 125,000,000x
SSBKKx20: At least 2,500,000,000x
UIO1-2: At least 2,500,000,000x
Late-ToP SSB Goku/Base Gogeta: At least 2,500,000,000x
Late-ToP SSBKKx20: At least 50,000,000,000x
SS Gogeta: At least 125,000,000,000x
Beerus, SSB Gogeta, FPSS Broly, UI Goku: At least 6,250,000,000,000x

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

nah, the only reason that it is accepted is because there is a saga on the anime about it, without that we would have discarded it long ago


scan for the scene?


if it a "Possibly" i would be completely satisfied tvh


imagine that, kid buu is stronger than buuhan in the anime and yet it is inferior than a random technique done by him lol

Yeah that’s what I meant

here’s the scene instead of mentioning it’s their first time doing metamorphean fusion he says first ssj4 fusion

that’s fair

That’d be tuff

guys we have a blog on the speed and powerscaling currently for the 3-A values for a reason, if the thing gets replaced than the blogs also have to

could you send this 3-A blog but we could put in the Infinite 2-C blog and handle scaling chains later since A LOT of things have changed since that scaling chain even recently Fusion Zamasu is accepted as as strong as infinite Zamasu

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Yeah that’s what I meant

here’s the scene instead of mentioning it’s their first time doing metamorphean fusion he says first ssj4 fusion

that’s fair

That’d be tuff

could you send this 3-A blog but we could put in the Infinite 2-C blog and handle scaling chains later since A LOT of things have changed since that scaling chain even recently Fusion Zamasu is accepted as as strong as infinite Zamasu

This is very wrong, since Fusion Zamasu can neither interact with nor affect Infinite Zamasu, Infinite Zamasu has at least a 2-B range and a minimum 2-C scale potential at 12 scale universes if we accept it to be the entire timeline.

 

[Omegabronic]

This is very wrong, since Fusion Zamasu can neither interact with nor affect Infinite Zamasu, Infinite Zamasu has at least a 2-B range and a minimum 2-C scale potential at 12 scale universes if we accept it to be the entire timeline.

zamasu's range is unknown, we don't know if he would be able to fuse with the entire multiverse, and he didn't even fused with all of the universe 7 space, much less all of the 12 universes

I've already dealt with the speed scaling chain values

DBS Infinite Speed

Assuming Post-BoG Base Goku as 1x baseline. X = Baseline Infinite speed. Lowballed.

SSG Goku: Baseline
Post-SSG Absorption SS Goku: 50x
Post BoG Base Goku: At least 100x (scales to at least twice the previous level of power of his Super Saiyan form)
SS Goku: At least 5,000x
SS2, SS3, SSG: At least 5,000x
SSB: At least 250,000x
SSBKKx10: At least 2,500,000x
SSB Post Hit-rematch: At least 2,500,000x
SSG Early ToP: At least 2,500,000x
SSB Early ToP: At least 125,000,000x
SSBKKx20: At least 2,500,000,000x
UIO1-2: At least 2,500,000,000x
Late-ToP SSB Goku/Base Gogeta: At least 2,500,000,000x
Late-ToP SSBKKx20: At least 50,000,000,000x
SS Gogeta: At least 125,000,000,000x
Beerus, SSB Gogeta, FPSS Broly, UI Goku: At least 6,250,000,000,000x

probably good to put that on a organized blog for clarity's sake, also if the multipliers are the same then just do that to 2-C as well and boom everything is solved, it is surprisingly simpler

here’s the scene instead of mentioning it’s their first time doing metamorphean fusion he says first ssj4 fusion

so yep, the only thing that makes it canon is the guide, i will maybe try to revert it, but that wouldn't happen in months due to other stuff since i do not care for toeiverse that much, so meh

That’d be tuff

could you send this 3-A blog but we could put in the Infinite 2-C blog and handle scaling chains later since A LOT of things have changed since that scaling chain even recently Fusion Zamasu is accepted as as strong as infinite Zamasu

forget about it, we have a blog for speed but not for ap for some reason, we should really make one ngl

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

forget about it, we have a blog for speed but not for ap for some reason, we should really make one ngl

AP and speed use the exact same scaling. There's no need to make two separate blogs

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

zamasu's range is unknown, we don't know if he would be able to fuse with the entire multiverse, and he didn't even fused with all of the universe 7 space, much less all of the 12 universes


probably good to put that on a organized blog for clarity's sake, also if the multipliers are the same then just do that to 2-C as well and boom everything is solved, it is surprisingly simpler


so yep, the only thing that makes it canon is the guide, i will maybe try to revert it, but that wouldn't happen in months due to other stuff since i do not care for toeiverse that much, so meh

forget about it, we have a blog for speed but not for ap for some reason, we should really make one ngl

No the fusion in GT references what happens in fusion reborn it’s similar to the deadzone situation where GT references fusion reborn but both have some inconsistencies which the director even acknowledged there was an entire crt for it that explained all of this

ap and speed are practically the same in db atleast upscaling atleast

 

[Veronica]

Who is making the scaling?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Who is making the scaling?

I already made a scale of the values

 

[Omegabronic]

AP and speed use the exact same scaling. There's no need to make two separate blogs

Yeah, i meant making one for both

No the fusion in GT references what happens in fusion reborn it’s similar to the deadzone situation where GT references fusion reborn but both have some inconsistencies which the director even acknowledged there was an entire crt for it that explained all of this

Vegeta straight up says that he onlh knows about it at all because he saw it from the otherworld, that is but another contradiction

I already made a scale of the values

I am surprise of how simple it looks

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Yeah, i meant making one for both


Vegeta straight up says that he onlh knows about it at all because he saw it from the otherworld, that is but another contradiction


I am surprise of how simple it looks

Ah shit I sent the wrong scans just take a look at this crt

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Dragon Ball Super Anime AP and Speed Using Conservative Multipliers

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Dragon Ball Super Anime AP and Speed Using Conservative Multipliers

vsbattles.fandom.com

Thanks for the great job

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Most importantly, we must create an entirely new CRT to scale characters to infinite speed and AP than what has already been accepted.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Most importantly, we must create an entirely new CRT to scale characters to infinite speed and AP than what has already been accepted.

Whoever makes that thread, please clarify that its a simple follow-up thread to the previous so we don't have to wait another 48 hours

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Or maybe we should just request for that thread to be reopened so we can actually do what we planned before things went off the rails

 

[Omegabronic]

Dragon Ball Super Anime AP and Speed Using Conservative Multipliers

vsbattles.fandom.com

welp, everything is read for super scaling, now we just need one for toei and boom we are ready to apply it without problem, lucky that we already have this https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Vizer04/Dragon_Ball_Z_Anime:_AP_and_Speed_Scaling so we just need to call @Vizer04 to update his blog and we are good to go

good job on the blog btw, extremely organized and is exactly what i was expecting, good job dude

Ah shit I sent the wrong scans just take a look at this crt

reading it, yeah i think i still disagree, but like i said, i will probably take a loooong time before diving into it to try and change it, so meh for now

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Whoever makes that thread, please clarify that its a simple follow-up thread to the previous so we don't have to wait another 48 hours

I think so too, I hate having to wait 48 hours

 

[Omegabronic]

Or maybe we should just request for that thread to be reopened so we can actually do what we planned before things went off the rails

sure, just make sure to call an mod or admin that agreed with the threads to double check it and i think it is safe to apply without any contention

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

sure, just make sure to call an mod or admin that agreed with the threads to double check it and i think it is safe to apply without any contention

I've done that, bro, I'm just waiting.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

welp, everything is read for super scaling, now we just need one for toei and boom we are ready to apply it without problem, lucky that we already have this https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Vizer04/Dragon_Ball_Z_Anime:_AP_and_Speed_Scaling so we just need to call @Vizer04 to update his blog and we are good to go

good job on the blog btw, extremely organized and is exactly what i was expecting, good job dude




reading it, yeah i think i still disagree, but like i said, i will probably take a loooong time before diving into it to try and change it, so meh for now

We could just take his blog and add the changes we need to it

welp, everything is read for super scaling, now we just need one for toei and boom we are ready to apply it without problem, lucky that we already have this https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Vizer04/Dragon_Ball_Z_Anime:_AP_and_Speed_Scaling so we just need to call @Vizer04 to update his blog and we are good to go

good job on the blog btw, extremely organized and is exactly what i was expecting, good job dude




reading it, yeah i think i still disagree, but like i said, i will probably take a loooong time before diving into it to try and change it, so meh for now

thats fine the same reason it’s accepted is similar to deadzones reasoning though

 

[Omegabronic]

We could just take his blog and add the changes we need to it

i mean, it is his blog, wouldn't be more ethical to just call him instead of having the trouble of creating a whole new blog?

thats fine the same reason it’s accepted is similar to deadzones reasoning though

meh, kind of not? again, i will wait for that discussion when we come to it

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

i mean, it is his blog, wouldn't be more ethical to just call him instead of having the trouble of creating a whole new blog?


meh, kind of not? again, i will wait for that discussion when we come to it

We could credit him

Agree to Disagree

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Whoever makes that thread, please clarify that its a simple follow-up thread to the previous so we don't have to wait another 48 hours

We could credit him

Agree to Disagree

Let's make a new one, as he said and also the other moderator told us to make a separate one, I don't think another one needs to be reopened, it's hard for team members to look at everything with so many pages, the reason for infinite speed and AP should be redirected another topic, but with a detailed explanation.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

One continuity at a time

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Hmmm, time to find the panda we never saw. The hidden reason behind all the upgrades, the mastermind.

100% honesty? I don't know.

So, we already made all the preparations to apply infinite speed and AP, @Reiner I'd like to do?

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Let's make a new one, as he said and also the other moderator told us to make a separate one, I don't think another one needs to be reopened, it's hard for team members to look at everything with so many pages, the reason for infinite speed and AP should be redirected another topic, but with a detailed explanation.

Bruh if we make an entirely new thread we have to wait 48 hours and Planack said the scaling was pretty straight forward we just have to change the tiers and Link my blog