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All the energy of the people of the world
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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It could be either the energy of Goku and Beerus crossing universe 7, or Beerus and Champa doing the same, or in the worst case Boo destroying the Kaioh realm
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If it does Goku wouldn't need to ask help from the people of Earth.
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That is the point, their energy never did that
When? Show scan
Destroying it would be ap and not speed
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In the manga there wasn’t any energy attacks involved and they only sent shockwaves across the universe which iirc is only accepted to apply to AP not speed
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1. The biggest issue we had with this feat in the manga was how long it took to go unrevealed, but now that the universe is accepted as Infinite, we don't need time to categorize it. As infinite speed, there's no reason to go against this feat now.
2. Link
3. If your energy travels all over the Kaioh world, it would have infinite speed.
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It's exactly like the anime, we see shock waves spreading through the macrocosm, there's nothing to deny it anymore since we accept the characters if they climb to them
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The anime has infinite speed via the ki ball though, the manga doesn’t have that
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Official Dragon Ball website confirming that Gas traveled across the universe, which logically means infinite speed
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That’s fine, I was talking about manga BoG which is 5 arcs before
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Jiren traveled through outer space distance in a couple of minutes tho.
Another good sipporting feat
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This feat never scales because it isn't their energy, it is shockwaves from their punches, there 0 reason for that to scale to anyone
an ap feat, there is no speed feat in the scan you posted
https://scans-ongoing-2.planeptune.us/manga/Dragon-Ball-Super-Color/0006-008.png
Nope, we don't scale like this on the site
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Nope, since in context that just meana him traveling through space, he was still inside the universe, thus he still traveles only finite speed
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Cara, o forum é em ingles entao fala em ingles
Well, that is straight up not how we do things on the site, not every 2-C has immeasurable just because it can destroy a space time, that is the standards
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There's Kid Buu's feat of traveling the universe destroying planets, and there's Zamasu's feat where he travels from universe 10 to 7 to make wishes
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We already consider that, this is mftl+ sure, but infinite? Nah
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Feels nice to finally see Infinite speed Dragon Ball
Long LONG overdue
Long LONG overdue
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Take it easy bro, he's new to this site and he doesn't know it lol
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How would that be infinite?
Via unkown means, plus the universe are different space times, so it couldn't have been speed, it had to be dimensional travel
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Universe is Infinitely expanding tho.
It should be by definition.
Also given It was stated that planet was far off. From the "Galaxy prison" or else..
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1. If you're going to disregard the manga, disregard the anime too, because there we saw the shock waves spreading just like in the manga, and we still accept climbing for sleedIf you're going to disregard the manga, disregard the anime too, because there we saw the shock waves spreading just like in the manga, and we still accept climbing for Speed.
2. I explained this later
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1 that wouldn't mean anything really
2 it is enpanssive, aka it is expanding
No it shouldn't? Not every distance in an infinite place is infinite
Which just means that it is far away, nothing infinite here
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Which means nothing since we don't scale them to that, we scale them to a supressed beerus who reacted to an explosion that almost enveloped the universe, not the same situation
Read above, you are just wrong on what we use to scale, also climb what?
So did i
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In verse? Yeah, out of it? No
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It is. Universe Infinitely expanding means, distances get bigger and bigger without limits, a mere MFTL being wouldn't be able to cross it and reach it's destination given the distance doesn't stop getting bigger and bigger.
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While true, this would just be a supportive argument and not a main one. Considering it's perfectly possible for fictions to have sextillion times FTL characters, who should be able to overcome universal expansion speed.
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Mistranslation, it is expanssive and not expending, plus that would still be finite
yes it would, the distance would be bigger, but still finite
Unless you can prove the speed of the expansion then no
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It doesn't, distance to the desired destinion getting bigger Infinitely means the user would never be able to reach it's destination if it doesn't bypass that limitation itself. And thus, getting larger and larger Infinitely, without limits, means distance is infinite...... becouse distance doesn't stop growing up to Infinity
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Tbh, by that notion. The earthlings wouldn't be capable of reaching Namek, unless they have an infinite speed ship.
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Yes, which kinda doesn't contradict it. I mean. It's fiction after all.
The same as Red ribbon can create Star level to Low Multiversal Robots (ie Cell Max)
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Characters in Dragon Ball scale to the speed of their ki attacks, and the shockwaves produced by Goku and Beerus during their clash are just their energies rebounding off of each other
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Which would still be finite, it would never be infinite, he would need to outspeed the expansion, but if said expansion is, say, lightspees for example, then being a bilion times ftl would be more than enough
plus i think you are ignoring the fact that your entire point is based on a mistranslation, so why still argue it?
That is not how it works at all, if it keeps expanding then the finite distance will expand forever, it will never reach infinite since it impossible to reach infinite by expanding finite space
Either way your point doesn't even exist since "expanding" is a mistranslstion anyway
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That is the point, this isn't their energy
Nope, it is the result of the strengh of their blows, much like anything in real life that causes a shockwave, it isn't their ki, it is a mere aftereffect of two strong forces coliding
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You need to prove that its not their ki because ki and physicals go hand in hand in Dragon Ball
Right now you're just being pedantic
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No i don't, that is a non sequitur, physicals and ki do go hand in hand, but that means nothing to the things being discussed right now
Define "pedantic" english is not my fist langauge, so idk what that means
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