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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

See litterally every bleach match up nowdays, they all have soul crush me think
Like, only humans were affected by this, other characters like humans with some powers weren't affected, usually the verse doesn't work much with that energy, we can see several weaknesses, such as a certain superior character is unaffected
 
I've heard you've been arguing about scaling Base Goku to their god forms.

Anyway, even if we take out the BoGs arguments, shouldn't post-ToP base Goku scale to his SSB anyway? Because a weakened end of ToP Base Goku could create a barrier which could contend weakened Jiren's attacks, something that weakened Golden Frieza and Android 17 together (remember A17 has no problem with stamina, so his barriers would be as strong as they were at the beginning) couldn't contend
 
Even if we ignore scaling them up to a certain, it's unquestionable it scales to their Goku Black Arc selves. During Goku Black Arc. Goku Black in his Base was shown being able to contend with SSB Vegeta, and then got a SSB like increase. Later on post Training Vegeta stomped Rose Goku Black in his Super Saiyan Blue form, which means Vegeta's base would be considerably superior to Goku Black's Base considering both forms have similar multipliers and mechanisms. .
 
So far I have this for granolah saga

Granolah (SSBE vegeta downscales << from granolah) << UE Vegeta and PUI Goku (Start of granolah arc) = Granolah RPL ~ SSB Goku (kinda healed) < 2 red eye Granolah ~ UE Vegeta rematch < Powered by Dragon Balls Gas <<< Instincts Liberated Gas = held back Awakened Gas > SSB Goku (post zenkai) << UE Vegeta and PUI Goku << Awakened Gas < Goku "TUI" < Old gas < UE Vegeta TUI Goku (Post heal) << PUI Goku (End of arc) < even older Gas (he flew right through both their attacks even if his body is brittle) < buff gas <<< Black Freiza
 
Here:
https://ibb.co/K2GsDQb

This is vague, because SSG and SSJ Goku fought Beerus and they could already sense SSJ Goku's power . Who was stated several times to surpass SSG power and later on he broke his limits, but it's clear that Krillen's statemen refers to Saiyan Beyond God the power that Goku harnessed in his base and can only use SSB on top of it making it "SSGSS"

Here:
https://ibb.co/2qSy8dx

It's clear that the anime went the manga way, because all those statements where also made about SSJ in BoG, but got redirected to SSB. Also when Goku was transforming you scan see SSJ's yellow aura with no statement of surpassing SSG's power it simply got skipped and he went SSB and had those statements.
What even are the rules on the DBS anime/manga split? Do the events split when the anime goes ahead?
 
They start splitting starting from Battle of Gods. One notable difference there is that Manga BoG Goku never fought Beerus in his base form of SS, he's always in SSG.
 
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