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That is not what Null saidIirc (I might be wrong) but I think in one of Null's revisions, he was arguing that Cell Saga Gohan is being amped by both SSJ2 and his rage, but I could've misunderstood.
You're right, I went and checked through older threads. At least I couldn't find anything.That is not what Null said
Yep, but I think it's because it's more supported because of the fight against Frieza where 20x Goku =< 50% Frieza while SSJ Goku was > 100% Frieza.Super Saiyan's multiplier comes from the same guidebooks that state Super Saiyan 2 and 3's multipliers yet we still use it
Well I suppose that's fairYep, but I think it's because it's more supported because of the fight against Frieza where 20x Goku =< 50% Frieza while SSJ Goku was > 100% Frieza.
I mentioned this in my post, but Sixteen heavily implies Gohan was holding back to some extent up to that point.Super Saiyan 2 is more than twice as strong as Super Saiyan considering Gohan using less than half of the form's full power is comparable to Super Perfect Cell, whose state is the Super Saiyan 2 equivalent of his Perfect Form, which far outclassed Gohan as a Super Saiyan (we use the same logic with Trunks being terrified of half of Super Saiyan Goku's power)
Super Saiyan 3 being four times stronger than Super Saiyan 2 isn't contradicted so I think it passes
I mentioned this in my post, but Sixteen heavily implies Gohan was holding back to some extent up to that point.
That’s highly unlikely since Gohan was tapping into rage power before he even unlocked SS1, Goku and Vegeta getting anger amps over their SS forms points towards it being a different mechanic besides the transformations.Super Saiyan 2 was already Gohan's rage amp finally manifesting in full so no
That and he was pretty nonchalant for most of the fight
This site has made a discussion rule about daizenshu being contradictory albeit only to cosmology but largely depicts it as a non viable source of information.The reason why Super Saiyan 2 and 3 Multipliers aren't taken into account is because they don't come from the Daizenshuu but instead the super exciting guide.
Thoughts on this?If you notice he actually vanishes before he shoots the Kamehameha
So it's just a another version of Kamehameha
Actuate, low 1-C vs 2-A
This site has made a discussion rule about daizenshu being contradictory albeit only to cosmology but largely depicts it as a non viable source of information.
Trunks can be scaled to high complex multiversal but just on this wiki. Also death battle does it againActuate, low 1-C vs 2-A
https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Canon,_Xeno)/ZeroTC01 scales to xeno gokuHigh Complex Multiversal? I think most would agree that 5-D is the reasonable high end, so what in DBH's cosmology could grant it a High 1-C tier?
That's a nice dreamso what in DBH's cosmology could grant it a High 1-C tier?
That's a nice dream
That’s where he scales on a different wikiBuddy that's all just Low 1-C stuff going by our standards, stuff that I might is what a lot of people on here disagree with being tier 1 at all.
Also why are you using CSaPW? They aren't VBW and have radically different standards
That's not acceptedDoesnt EML say something about Grade 3 SS being a 10x amp to raw power but a decrease in speed?
And? CSaPW=/=VBW so where he scales on another wiki doesn't matter hereThat’s where he scales on a different wiki