Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Rutæhh]

"Both of whom who resisted narrative existence erasure"

yes this is wrong. just because u resist being erased out of the story, doesnt mean you can resist being erased across history. Its a relic from when Hakai was standard EE

 

[Rutæhh]

someone should lowkey remove that shit

 

[Huesito88]

someone should lowkey remove that shit

I nominate Null as Tribute

 

[Rutæhh]

actually I'll just do it remove it in a CRT if thats cool with everybody

 

[Demon_Lord18]

actually I'll just do it remove it in a CRT if thats cool with everybody

Go ahead and commit the crime

 

[Jaakor48]

History is not Plot or Conceptual (well not normally atleast)

The narrative EE in dr slump does't just remove them from the narrative, but replaced the entire plot, including the universes, which have different histories (which is where hakai got history EE from as well iirc) and attempted to rewrite their History to something else, it does a lot of things

History EE alone isn't doing squat to them, unless you're saying the history EE that hakai has is even beyond a narrative level

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

I thought that Beerus erasing Dr Mahito was erased from his page a long ago

 

[Spinoirr]

Isn't it literally accepted within his page?

Like I was wondering why the Hakai isnt like one layer of narrative EE

 

[Ss3micah]

Also a few questions.

Sigh, fine I’ll answer this

- First of all, Goku is able to resist hakai, and the said hakai by Beerus can erase characters from Doctor Slump, and these said characters can interact with Tori-Bot himself, who's outside the Doctor Slump narrative and can interact with it. So, this gives Goku the ability to literally be resistant to narrative erasure potency, right?

Short answer: No. I won’t get too much into it but just be as brief as possible, Beerus can’t erase beings on a narrative level and/or can’t erase things to a level where they are booted from the story completely. It’s only been accepted that he can Hakai beings with narrative EE resistance but by no means does Beerus or Hakai for that matter have any Narrative applications. So Goku would not have Narrative EE resistance either.

If this is the case, wouldn't this mean Goku is resistant to hax like causality, fate, law, and far more manipulation?

No because again, it’s only accepted Beerus can Hakai beings with the resistance, not that he himself nor Hakai has narrative applications and even more so have the same attributes and applications as Dr. S Plot Manipulation

And continuing with Doctor Slump, if Beerus is stated to be unaffected by Arale and other characters, shouldn't he scale to them and be Low 1-C?

No. I won’t get into it too much but scaling Beerus and/or Hakai to Plot Hax AP has been deemed an outlier.
Plus that statement has always been treated with a half tea-spoon of salt. It’s that reason why Beerus was only given resistance to Toon Force rather than quite literally every ability under the Sun on Arale’s page.

Goku for that matter has little to no idea of what Arale can even do or what she is trying capable of. Only that she has logic breaking powers (I.E. Toon Force) but that’s it. So to say plot manipulation (a power that neither GOKU nor BEERUS for that matter are even aware of) would just straight up not work for unknown reasons is a bit of a stretch. It even becomes more so a stretch when you consider Arale wasn’t actively trying to throw hands throughout the entire ordeal

 

[Ss3micah]

yes this is wrong. just because u resist being erased out of the story, doesnt mean you can resist being erased across history. Its a relic from when Hakai was standard EE

Isn't it literally accepted within his page?

History is not Plot or Conceptual (well not normally atleast)

If this is about Goku having History EE resistance and Hakai having History EE applications.
Those are for completely unrelated reasons that are not associated to dr slump. Read the page again. Hakai has its own dragon ball established reasons for History EE

 

[Nullflowerblush]

For my next campaign, I'm going to make it to where tanking an energy attack warrants a 2x advantage.

 

[Huesito88]

For my next campaign, I'm going to make it to where tanking an energy attack warrants a 2x advantage.

Will this scale to speed?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Yes.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Yes.

it seems fake to me.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Trust in the agenda.

 

[Huesito88]

Trust in the agenda.

Your agenda is the agenda?

 

[omegabronic]

Your agenda is the agenda?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

wait why the hell was my planet vegeta calculation rejected again

 

[Nullflowerblush]

wait
i used diameter lol

 

[Fezzih_007]

wait why the hell was my planet vegeta calculation rejected again

Damn, you got bad luck If you made others calculations, just to get rejected several times.