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I nominate Null as Tributesomeone should lowkey remove that shit
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I nominate Null as Tributesomeone should lowkey remove that shit
Go ahead and commit the crimeactually I'll just do it remove it in a CRT if thats cool with everybody
The narrative EE in dr slump does't just remove them from the narrative, but replaced the entire plot, including the universes, which have different histories (which is where hakai got history EE from as well iirc) and attempted to rewrite their History to something else, it does a lot of thingsHistory is not Plot or Conceptual (well not normally atleast)
Like I was wondering why the Hakai isnt like one layer of narrative EE
Sigh, fine I’ll answer thisAlso a few questions.
Short answer: No. I won’t get too much into it but just be as brief as possible, Beerus can’t erase beings on a narrative level and/or can’t erase things to a level where they are booted from the story completely. It’s only been accepted that he can Hakai beings with narrative EE resistance but by no means does Beerus or Hakai for that matter have any Narrative applications. So Goku would not have Narrative EE resistance either.- First of all, Goku is able to resist hakai, and the said hakai by Beerus can erase characters from Doctor Slump, and these said characters can interact with Tori-Bot himself, who's outside the Doctor Slump narrative and can interact with it. So, this gives Goku the ability to literally be resistant to narrative erasure potency, right?
No because again, it’s only accepted Beerus can Hakai beings with the resistance, not that he himself nor Hakai has narrative applications and even more so have the same attributes and applications as Dr. S Plot ManipulationIf this is the case, wouldn't this mean Goku is resistant to hax like causality, fate, law, and far more manipulation?
No. I won’t get into it too much but scaling Beerus and/or Hakai to Plot Hax AP has been deemed an outlier.And continuing with Doctor Slump, if Beerus is stated to be unaffected by Arale and other characters, shouldn't he scale to them and be Low 1-C?
yes this is wrong. just because u resist being erased out of the story, doesnt mean you can resist being erased across history. Its a relic from when Hakai was standard EE
If this is about Goku having History EE resistance and Hakai having History EE applications.History is not Plot or Conceptual (well not normally atleast)
Will this scale to speed?For my next campaign, I'm going to make it to where tanking an energy attack warrants a 2x advantage.
it seems fake to me.Yes.
Your agenda is the agenda?Trust in the agenda.
Your agenda is the agenda?
Damn, you got bad luck If you made others calculations, just to get rejected several times.wait why the hell was my planet vegeta calculation rejected again
i don’t disagree with Historical EE for Hakai at all, I dont think I ever said this. I disagree with Hakai still having this part of its justification.If this is about Goku having History EE resistance and Hakai having History EE applications.
Those are for completely unrelated reasons that are not associated to dr slump. Read the page again. Hakai has its own dragon ball established reasons for History EE
this is a relic from when Hakai was just standard EE. I think its wrong and just extra fluffCan erase[11] beings like Dr. Mashirito, and likely even Arale Norimaki, both of whom resisted narrative existence erasure,[24][25]
the toei scaling for classic dragon ball is identical for canon, aside from inflated feats that isWhere does the 5-A in Son Goku's Dragon Ball (Toei) profile come from? Because he is 2x stronger than his previous key?
He got 50/100 in that one testWhy is Goku "average" intelligence again? Would below average not be more suitable?
Yeah, the test was to determine if you were a mindless beast or not. They prolly where giving questions like "What color is blue?" or "How many sides does a square have?"He got 50/100 in that one test
well yes i know, but focus on the italic partI think there is proof to consider a fusion's base beyond both parts' full power.
Base Gotenks in Z was believed to beat Buu, and Goten and Trunks obviously not even in SSJ can.
Base Kefla in the Anime fought against SSG Goku and iirc forced him to become blue or blue KK, while Caulifla and Kale together couldn't match SSG Goku.
Base Gogeta evaded some of SSJ Broly attacks, and matched him in SSJ, while previously both SSGSS Goku & Vegeta couldn't.
In the manga, iirc base Vegito could hold his own against Fused Zamasu better than what SSGSS Goku & Vegeta did.
In Toei Z it is even more clear, since Base Vegito no-diffed Buu for most of the time, while at that time Goku even at ssj3 was below Ultimate Gohan.
And hell, even a failed fusion of Gotenks could crack Cell Max's weak spot
we treat SSG as >400*400 baseone fusee rather than both?
and why is vados' statement not taken into account?
No, there were actual math equations in there too. We see on the page that Goku shows Vegeta there’s geometry to solve. Meaning he’s got (admittedly low, only 50% passing) middle school-high school education, which makes sense because Roshi taught him those things (and reading/writing) when he was 12.Yeah, the test was to determine if you were a mindless beast or not. They prolly where giving questions like "What color is blue?" or "How many sides does a square have?"
They’re above the max of both. The issue solely is there’s no way to accurately quantify that, so we try to work with the absolute lowest reasonable baseline we can gather and work from there.why are fusions considered above the max power of one fusee rather than both?
and why is vados' statement not taken into account?
Even if true, I wouldn't consider that average.No, there were actual math equations in there too. We see on the page that Goku shows Vegeta there’s geometry to solve. Meaning he’s got (admittedly low, only 50% passing) middle school-high school education, which makes sense because Roshi taught him those things (and reading/writing) when he was 12.
Yeah, the test was to determine if you were a mindless beast or not. They prolly where giving questions like "What color is blue?" or "How many sides does a square have?"
but in both manga and anime it's stated to be above the sum not the individual max of bothThey’re above the max of both. The issue solely is there’s no way to accurately quantify that, so we try to work with the absolute lowest reasonable baseline we can gather and work from there.
Yes. I agreed with that. It’s just a matter of how you go about trying to math that out for a scaling chain. (Especially since that easily gets into Calc-Stacking.)but in both manga and anime it's stated to be above the sum not the individual max of both
If you have a bucket of water that contains 2 liters and another that contains 5 liters, how many buckets do you have?
so.. for the sake of lowballing? because the statement is clearYes. I agreed with that. It’s just a matter of how you go about trying to math that out for a scaling chain. (Especially since that easily gets into Calc-Stacking.)
that is fun and all................but GT/Toei Goku should get Bellow Average for general intelligence as he finds counting 1 to 3 difficultNo, there were actual math equations in there too. We see on the page that Goku shows Vegeta there’s geometry to solve. Meaning he’s got (admittedly low, only 50% passing) middle school-high school education, which makes sense because Roshi taught him those things (and reading/writing) when he was 12.
that is fun and all................but GT/Toei Goku should get Bellow Average for general intelligence as he finds counting 1 to 3 difficultnot even joking, go look it up, it is during the Oceanus Shenron fight iirc
that is fun and all................but GT/Toei Goku should get Bellow Average for general intelligence as he finds counting 1 to 3 difficultnot even joking, go look it up, it is during the Oceanus Shenron fight iirc