It's only white when he brings in the Mob Boss. It's red when he stops time before he brings in said Mob Boss.
Which then it is white again once he uses the dimension shift and time skip against Dyspo in the tournament, either way, the colors are not exactly consistent
You necessarily must have, as the Dimension ability didn't exist for Hit until Epi.72.
......i don't see how this answer what i said, when did i said that he had altered his Time Skip to do all of these other effects? At max i said he developted new abilities
No, it isn't. Hit just says "I'll put you in a time prison." (No caps.) It's only called Cage of Time in the Latin American Dub, apparently.
huh, well good to know, i am from latin america, so that must have been a confusioj on my part
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Again, literally Hit comments his Time Skip has improved. And Goku can't react to it when he literally is frozen.
......again, don't see how this answer the part you are quoting, i have pointed other more likely posibilities based on facts we knew happened (hit jumping from bellow SSJB level to SSJBK level) idk why you are repeating this again on this part
No. That statement was about Time Skip. As I literally linked.
"His stance evolves as >he becomes stronger<"
That last one is talking about Hit's strenght, which is consistent with him seemingly growing to KK10xB level
Because there's no evidence or logic to it. It's just "That seems wrong. So no."
There is evidence, logical inconsistencies and statements i presented, you may not agree with them, but that doesn't mean they don't exist
So did you not look at Piccolo, Vados, or Whis? Which he confirms? His power simply didn't rise. Also, Beerus was talking about Time Skip, because Hit changes his stances in reference to Time Skip. As I linked.
which as i said, doesn't matter for the fact that Beerus said he fot stronger, the Bkk point i will say again later since you adressed it
He says he's overwhelmed without Time Skip. Which he then improves, and gets by. So, no.
which then he keeps up with Goku, which even normal kaiken was enough to blitz him completely, and then later on he reacted to several of Goku's attacks and harms him with his own despite being overpowered by blue alone earlier
Also, Time Skip effectively nullifies any speed advantage, which is why Dyspo had to hit him prior to it's activation, not in the midst of it.
It quite literally doesn't, Goku's predictions show as much since he can move in conjuntion to Hit's Skips to hit/counter him, which he complements when going Blue and asking Hit if he can keep up with his speed
Time Skip is called Time Skip because of the fact he skips and stores time, one, but TWO, the Time Dimension he makes is ALSO called Time Skip because of this
exept that himself and Goku said otherwise, and it is called Time Skip because it skips time, then Hit can store the time that is skiped and then manipulate it
and ALL he is DOING is SOLELY TARGETTING JIREN. There is NO OTHER DIFFERENCE. THUS, NECESSARILY, it MUST be TIME SKIP.
No? Don't see how him using the time he stored to target jiren would mean that it is the Time Skip
ANY argument otherwise is just you not agreeing because there wasn't an explicit statement writing out what should be plainly obvious.
Except we have explicit statements that it isn't
Cool
This is literally headcanon to handwave the literal WoG, his own statements, the statements after in the ToP, etc. in favor of Vados.
Says you ignoring his own statements that corroborades with Vados', also.......it isn't headcanon, he showed new stuff he didn't do before, therefore he developed new abilities.....what is so weird about that?
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Dude.
You literally just agreed the Dimension Shift is Time Skip, as it was stated in the ToP.
No, i said i would have agreed if it wasn't for this evidence saying otherwise
Goku and Hit are commenting on Dimension Shift. Thus, one of these two data sets are wrong. However, given Hit CONFIRMs it is Time Skip in the ToP, that would take precedence. Also, it's simply more evidence that Time Skip is an umbrella term, like I've been claiming.
Why would 2 statement of the ToP get more precedence over 3 statements from when the ability was introduced?
And given more answers favor EVERYTHING except Vados, SHE'S the outlier and should be written off. NOT vice versa. Hell, in 111 when Hit does the Phantasm to avoid a punch, Jiren calls it Time Skipping. Whis then does the VERBATIM SAME EXPLANATION as Vados (the pocket dimension. So more evidence they fall under the same name, as it is merely an application of his root ability.)
good and all but, she can't be an outlier when Hit himself and Goku say otherwise, also in that scene nothing stops Hit from doing botj at the same time, one to avoid and the other to Hit jiren, which he fails as Jiren does like Goku and intercepts Hit mid skip, even then, again, why would the ToP take precedence over the arc where the Ability is introduced? This would also null Goku's statement of the Time Skip not working on him as, if you want to count dimensional shifting as Time Skip, then it would be contradictory as it has worked on Goku
You didn't prove anything? What scans? What evidence? All you've done is said "No, Vados said-" to everything, even when she's being blatantly contradicted.
all the other evide i brought? The other scans with statements? Pointing out situarions that favor said statements? Pointing out logical problems with your proposal? Like, this is a classic way to try and desmolorize your oposition "you didn't prove anything therefore i am right" but it doesn't work when i have proved my point, it just so happens that you don't agree with the proofs, which i am sure you must feel about me as well
No, she was contradicted. And also, even if we were to say she was retconning past events with her explanation (like Servantis did with Kevin 11 in OV), this would then be retconned by Toei Statements/Word of God.
Which have less credibility than the show itaelf, which takes precedence, also it is says that Time Skip stops time as a main function, which is conteadicted by the very first time it is used, also why do you keep ignoring the Hit and Goku statements i sent and keeps focusing on Vados'? Looks deaingenuous if you ask me
Again, lack of reaction means little. Especially since the only person who can react to it, did, and even claimed he was a Time Stopper when he reappeared later.
huh? No? I assume the one you are talking about is Goku, which he never says that, can you be more clear what you are referencing here?
exempt for Goku, Vados and Hit himself in the rematch
Vados' testimony is worthless (she's contradicted) and both Goku and Hit are contradicted later in the ToP, where Hit confirms it is Time Skip.
Vados is never contradicted after her statement, Hit's usage in the U6 saga is the one being contradictory to what it is said in later sagas, which you seem to be ok with using retcons as argument, in which case this "retcon" is never once contradicted later in the series
He was able to adapt to Jiren's and Dyspo's attack speed and patterns without actually being as fast as them, so no. Similar to Roshi, his raw technique carries him, as verbatim said in U6VU7.
which is not true since he straight couldn't see Goku moving due to the spees difference when he used basic Kaioken, which Goku then amped by 10x and then Hit is able to follow him with his eyes, briefly stay ahead of him in a chase and block several of his attacks, even clashin with his kamehameha directly
there is
Goku's face doesn't need to be seen? We know Goku's body reacts normally without seeing his face in all previous shots, like the .2 second barrage.
which in this case also did once Hit punched his head, if you want to use that
Hell, even that moment makes little sense, because when Time Resumes Goku is back in his stance-Because he never left it. Then he keels over.
So the ability is self contradictory in its effects in usage is what you mean?
Obviously it's a whole continuity it's own, but it's not apart of the main story.
It is part of the main story, there is no "side quest" when all of it is canon
Answered the last bit already.
Wait did you? Legit question
Then your sincere feelings are literally injecting headcanon into events and ignoring verbatim statements.
I Could say the same to you, but let's keep it chill ok?
Hell, it's ironic-You're using Vados ONE statement to disprove a feat, but you won't let several statements disprove Hit's "increase in power." (that never happened). Literally self-contradictory logic.
I am using several statements and not only Vados', saying otherwise is nothing but a lie, and you also ignore the statements that he did increased in power, and the whole situation with SsjBK10x that proves it, with your logic also self contradicting itself
