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It's only white when he brings in the Mob Boss. It's red when he stops time before he brings in said Mob Boss.when he kills the mob boss it isn't red, it is white
You necessarily must have, as the Dimension ability didn't exist for Hit until Epi.72.What? NO, i didn't said that, i said that he can develop new powers.....i never claimed that he developed new haxes by altering his Time Skip, i don't even know how you got that from what i said
No, it isn't. Hit just says "I'll put you in a time prison." (No caps.) It's only called Cage of Time in the Latin American Dub, apparently.Isn't "cage of time" said in the anime? if none of them are named, then that is ok, my point doesn't really change much without this little detail
Trruuuue.wdym? if i have a cake, of course i can eat it
Again, literally Hit comments his Time Skip has improved. And Goku can't react to it when he literally is frozen.seriously tho, the said problems i brought up "no one, not even Goku and Hit notice anything different between Hit's normal Time Skip and the supposed different version he supposedly developed in the middle of their fight" between others......not sure why you would ask me to read above when that has nothing to do with the problems i was talking about in the part you are responding
No. That statement was about Time Skip. As I literally linked.and in the profile we have statements of him "getting stronger as his stance improves", also the whole point i gave of him vs SSJB and SSBK20 Goku, he factually HAS to have gotten stronger and faster else his clash with Goku makes no sense
Because there's no evidence or logic to it. It's just "That seems wrong. So no."how is me pointing out that nothing treats the first instance of time travel time skip and the later on supposed time stop instance of time skip any different from one another me being incredulous? please point out my incredulity here, i can't see it
So did you not look at Piccolo, Vados, or Whis? Which he confirms? His power simply didn't rise. Also, Beerus was talking about Time Skip, because Hit changes his stances in reference to Time Skip. As I linked.Hit saying why changed his Skip doesn't change nor impossibilitates that his power rose as well, else why would Beerus, who can feel power levels via Ki sensing, say that he got stronger?
He says he's overwhelmed without Time Skip. Which he then improves, and gets by. So, no. Also, Time Skip effectively nullifies any speed advantage, which is why Dyspo had to hit him prior to it's activation, not in the midst of it.which is contradicted by him innitially getting overwhelmed by Base Blue Goku only to keep up with Blue Kaioken 10x Goku, which he innitially got blitzed by mind you, so if he doesn't grow in power in any capacity.......how do you explain?
Time Skip is called Time Skip because of the fact he skips and stores time, one, but TWO, the Time Dimension he makes is ALSO called Time Skip because of this, and ALL he is DOING is SOLELY TARGETTING JIREN. There is NO OTHER DIFFERENCE. THUS, NECESSARILY, it MUST be TIME SKIP. ANY argument otherwise is just you not agreeing because there wasn't an explicit statement writing out what should be plainly obvious.exept she never says that he is using the Time Skip there, but it is rather using the TIME he stored FROM said skips, there is a key difference there, he using the after effects of one technique to use for another technique, not that he is using the Time Skip itself
Same.i see, i got confused by your wording is all, glad we could clear that up
This is literally headcanon to handwave the literal WoG, his own statements, the statements after in the ToP, etc. in favor of Vados.dunno, it has been a time skip(no captions, i am not talking about the technique this time) between the U6 saga and their second rematch, so he must have figured out another ways to manip time, this is a classic time skip anime stuff where chars gain new abilities of screen, i don't need to prove what is stated to us
...that is impossible since, outside of that Vados statement that would contradict this notion, both Hit and Goku say that he isn't using his Time Skip at all in their rematch, yet you are saying that all of his time abilities are the Time Skip, despite the fact that Goku, Vados and Hit himself say otherwise
Dude.
You literally just agreed the Dimension Shift is Time Skip, as it was stated in the ToP. Goku and Hit are commenting on Dimension Shift. Thus, one of these two data sets are wrong. However, given Hit CONFIRMs it is Time Skip in the ToP, that would take precedence. Also, it's simply more evidence that Time Skip is an umbrella term, like I've been claiming.
And given more answers favor EVERYTHING except Vados, SHE'S the outlier and should be written off. NOT vice versa. Hell, in 111 when Hit does the Phantasm to avoid a punch, Jiren calls it Time Skipping. Whis then does the VERBATIM SAME EXPLANATION as Vados (the pocket dimension. So more evidence they fall under the same name, as it is merely an application of his root ability.)those would be both just inconsistencies with the narrative, as when those were introduced it was very well established that they were not the time skip at all
You didn't prove anything? What scans? What evidence? All you've done is said "No, Vados said-" to everything, even when she's being blatantly contradicted.the fact that he shows new abilities, and that it is stated to not be his time skip, i already proved it
No, she was contradicted. And also, even if we were to say she was retconning past events with her explanation (like Servantis did with Kevin 11 in OV), this would then be retconned by Toei Statements/Word of God.no, Hit, the guy who has the power, says the same as her, they AREN'T the time skip, and Vados was proven right in her explanation as what she described is what Hit did against Goku in that fight
Again, lack of reaction means little. Especially since the only person who can react to it, did, and even claimed he was a Time Stopper when he reappeared later.exempt for Goku, Vados and Hit himself in the rematchi am talking about all the other points i showed before of how illogical that would be to everything this improvement is said to do + the "reaction to it" argument, you can't grab each sentence and separate on their own, you have to look at the whole
Vados' testimony is worthless (she's contradicted) and both Goku and Hit are contradicted later in the ToP, where Hit confirms it is Time Skip.
He was able to adapt to Jiren's and Dyspo's attack speed and patterns without actually being as fast as them, so no. Similar to Roshi, his raw technique carries him, as verbatim said in U6VU7.unless he gets faster when he improves, which as i stated, it is something that HAS to have happened for the clashes he has with Goku to make sense
There is no speed amp.he time travels dude, he just time traveled to outside of the Beam's range + the speed amplification thing i keep saying that he has, you can't disconsider that since it is also an important point i am bringing
Goku's face doesn't need to be seen? We know Goku's body reacts normally without seeing his face in all previous shots, like the .2 second barrage. Hell, even that moment makes little sense, because when Time Resumes Goku is back in his stance-Because he never left it. Then he keels over.we don't know that, we never see his face as Hit is hitting him unlike before, which he also didn't made a move at all to counter as Hit was attacking him, it just makes it seem like the speed raising is more likely, as it would be a matter of Goku being unable to react to him
Obviously it's a whole continuity it's own, but it's not apart of the main story. Answered the last bit already.there is no "filler" in DBS Anime, not in the sense that would invalidate it in anyway at least, oh and also it isn't just her, Hit and Goku himself say otherwise, and the anime is priority, if outside sources contradict it, then it gets priority
Then your sincere feelings are literally injecting headcanon into events and ignoring verbatim statements. Hell, it's ironic-You're using Vados ONE statement to disprove a feat, but you won't let several statements disprove Hit's "increase in power." (that never happened). Literally self-contradictory logic.nope, those are my sincere feelings and thoughts towards this matter