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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Actually, I think you're right. Granolah says "You must have activated an evasion technique", so it's UI and not PSSB
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Also, I thought the whole point of the Vegeta scene is to display they use solely PSSB from that moment forward?
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I've recently rewatched the movie version of Battle of Gods and I got to be honest: I honestly prefer Beerus' personality from there over to what we have currently in Super.
Now I still love the purple cat and one could argue that his more comedic personality makes him more funny and appealing, and there are parts of his movie personality still there, but I love how movie Beerus was still lazy and menacing yet felt more...godlike and wise if that makes sense. I don't know, Beerus in BOG just feels a lot more divine and something that's a force of nature compared to what we have in Super even though I still like Beerus to this day. Hopefully in the future, Beerus can have an active role in a fight and give that vibe he did all those years ago in 2013.
Now I still love the purple cat and one could argue that his more comedic personality makes him more funny and appealing, and there are parts of his movie personality still there, but I love how movie Beerus was still lazy and menacing yet felt more...godlike and wise if that makes sense. I don't know, Beerus in BOG just feels a lot more divine and something that's a force of nature compared to what we have in Super even though I still like Beerus to this day. Hopefully in the future, Beerus can have an active role in a fight and give that vibe he did all those years ago in 2013.
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Same principle as with the Kamehameha.
He was using Evolution, then.
Ultra Instinct (technique) never exhibits a unique aura.
The aura remains absent.
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Fair.
Same principle as with the Kamehameha.
Before that, he turned Normal Blue and had Aura. That said, once he fires his energy blast, it disappears again.
He was using Evolution, then.
I was referring to the “Switch from SSB to PSSB.” That scene is specifically noting a change to applying UI on it (Cellular movement and “Evasion Technique).—I’m not making any claims on any Aura tomfoolery, there, just pointing out that SSB type change is just not what happened there.
Ultra Instinct (technique) never exhibits a unique aura.
The aura remains absent.
Nullflowerblush
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It clearly is because the aura disappeared, which only occurs when Blue is completed.
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I mean, given their aura appears in PSSB when they power up really hard, I interpret it as just following the same PSSB rules. Like here.
Edit: We see similar here.
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Their aura only appears when they transform before disappearing shortly after,
...as is Completed Blue functions.
Nullflowerblush
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Hey,
During Beam Struggles, the involved energy blasts only ever explode (1) when matched with an equal force (1)(2).
Otherwise, the weaker attack is reflected (1)(2)(3), envelops the loser of the clash (1)(2)(3), and proceeds forward (1), even escaping into space (1)(2)(3).
Judging by the direction of the Z-Fighters's shadows in chapter 221, pg. 2 (their shadows extend by their right side), chapter 221, pg. 10 establishes that the Sun,—which shadows protrude in the opposite direction of, being their primary light source,—is to Piccolo's left. Cell is on Piccolo's left.
The blast could have potentially extended outward beyond Earth and exploded atop Mars (2.4328063 KiloFOE) or even Neptune (954.010922 KiloFOE).
During Beam Struggles, the involved energy blasts only ever explode (1) when matched with an equal force (1)(2).
Otherwise, the weaker attack is reflected (1)(2)(3), envelops the loser of the clash (1)(2)(3), and proceeds forward (1), even escaping into space (1)(2)(3).
Judging by the direction of the Z-Fighters's shadows in chapter 221, pg. 2 (their shadows extend by their right side), chapter 221, pg. 10 establishes that the Sun,—which shadows protrude in the opposite direction of, being their primary light source,—is to Piccolo's left. Cell is on Piccolo's left.
The blast could have potentially extended outward beyond Earth and exploded atop Mars (2.4328063 KiloFOE) or even Neptune (954.010922 KiloFOE).
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I like SSBKK more, cooler introduction, gave us a badass feat, and it's Goku applying his teachings to his saiyan heritage to reach the next level.
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it should be neptune. I fail to see why the calc does not take into account the destruction of the entire solar system from the Sun all the way to Pluto
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I don't think there's a calc that allows you to calculate that normally ,which is why they use the inverse square law
If you used the distance of Pluto and Pluto's GBE, you'd get less than what they have now
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Yall heard about Pluto? That's messed up
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New dragon ball card game, yall heard about it? DBSH is ending.
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You mean that Fusion World card game that came out a few months? Yeah I've heard about it, but I'm not seeing anything about Super Dragon Ball Heroes ending on any feeds that I frequent or looking for any news that says SDBH is ending. And given that Heroes is constantly coming out with content, arcs, cards, and these invitational tournaments in Japan then I'm skeptical about it ending.
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Irrelevant ahh dwarf planet
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IDK about the fusion world but it's DBSH which has been going on for a decade now.
not confirmed since it was just a random Twitter post that made sense to me
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I'd remain skeptical about this then until any official confirmation of SDBH's ending comes from Shueisha or from the people that work on Heroes itself have anything to say.
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What we know officially is that there will be a major announcement tomorrow on Twitter, and they have teased a new arcade machine which does not match the Heroes designs.
It is likely - and Jared Hendrix, a leaker with an impeccable track record, has stated this - that the machine will be for the next game in the Data Carddass series. If this is true, it would indicate that Heroes, the current game in the series, will be concluding some time in the next year.
It is likely - and Jared Hendrix, a leaker with an impeccable track record, has stated this - that the machine will be for the next game in the Data Carddass series. If this is true, it would indicate that Heroes, the current game in the series, will be concluding some time in the next year.
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Yeah I saw the tweet earlier from Jared and, like it or not, it kind of sucks that Heroes is actually going to be concluding. The quality of Heroes is very much debatable for most people, but it's unfortunate that over 10+ years of Dragon Ball content will be concluding once and for all.
Well, the only thing I hope that they don't do is just completely disregard all the lore and characters they added to Heroes in light of an entirely brand new and unrelated game. Not to say it should be a sequel, but to take elements from Heroes like how Xenoverse took elements from Online.
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A saiyan grows stronger every time he fights and can improve in the midst of combat, vastly increasing in strength whenever he's mortally injured
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delete Hit from VSBW. don't listen to the Hit fans
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Why is it that we either have incredible wankers or downplayers for any dragonball related topic?
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Can't Wait for the Time Skip Domain LR Hit
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"Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision
Continuation of this thread...............look i know i just changed it like, yesterday, but come on, i couldn't stand around with this inconsistency and just do nothing, i am half reverting it, why? because i just realized how confusingly and nonsensically this ability is, so here we go It...
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Going through hit's DBS scenes again I believe I understand how his time skips works
First, when he activates it, he transfers time from the normal world to his Pocket dimension, from within the perspective of this dimension, time outside is frozen, allowing him move to an advantageous position while inside it, but he can't physically attack until he comes out in which case, time moves normally for him again and the opponent can react. His 0.1,0.2, 0.5 second limit is the maximum time he can move within his pocket reality at a time before having to come out
Against Goku, he then advanced his timeskip to the point that the background turned RED, this is important for later
After the U6 VS U7 arc, hit showed more of his timeskip, he didn't seem to have a particular limit, and he now showcased the ability to freely bring others into his Pocket dimension. Also the red background was shown here again, and hit could freely interact with whomever he wanted. In the same video, hit blatantly says that time has indeed stopped for them, this is what he did to Goku, in his very last on panel evolution (red background, Goku frozen in time)
In his rematch against Goku, we see even more adaptations of timeskip displayed, hit can stay on his pocket dimension as long as he wants, he can create ghost phantoms in the real world which throws off most sensing, and most likely removed the initial weakness of people with AP predicting what hed do based on his movements - although Goku and Jiren's AP was advanced enough to still react just fine, he could also freely attack without having to leave by attacking directly from his dimension. When Goku broke his dimension (around 2:50), you can see rhr background was red again, signalling that time should be stopped , and you can see Goku's aura cracking through it, showing it's ignoring the time stop
Basically hit doesn't travel to the future, he simply moves within his dimension to different points in the real world and comes out, in his perspective he moves 0.1s, in everyone's perspective he appeared at a new place, because for them, time stopped, basically making it seem like time travel
I think Luffy gave a lot of scans about the timeskip being able to stop time, Vados simply corrected the notion that time skip just stops time, it does a lot more, with one consequence being that time stops from his perspective when in his dimension
First, when he activates it, he transfers time from the normal world to his Pocket dimension, from within the perspective of this dimension, time outside is frozen, allowing him move to an advantageous position while inside it, but he can't physically attack until he comes out in which case, time moves normally for him again and the opponent can react. His 0.1,0.2, 0.5 second limit is the maximum time he can move within his pocket reality at a time before having to come out
Against Goku, he then advanced his timeskip to the point that the background turned RED, this is important for later
After the U6 VS U7 arc, hit showed more of his timeskip, he didn't seem to have a particular limit, and he now showcased the ability to freely bring others into his Pocket dimension. Also the red background was shown here again, and hit could freely interact with whomever he wanted. In the same video, hit blatantly says that time has indeed stopped for them, this is what he did to Goku, in his very last on panel evolution (red background, Goku frozen in time)
In his rematch against Goku, we see even more adaptations of timeskip displayed, hit can stay on his pocket dimension as long as he wants, he can create ghost phantoms in the real world which throws off most sensing, and most likely removed the initial weakness of people with AP predicting what hed do based on his movements - although Goku and Jiren's AP was advanced enough to still react just fine, he could also freely attack without having to leave by attacking directly from his dimension. When Goku broke his dimension (around 2:50), you can see rhr background was red again, signalling that time should be stopped , and you can see Goku's aura cracking through it, showing it's ignoring the time stop
Basically hit doesn't travel to the future, he simply moves within his dimension to different points in the real world and comes out, in his perspective he moves 0.1s, in everyone's perspective he appeared at a new place, because for them, time stopped, basically making it seem like time travel
I think Luffy gave a lot of scans about the timeskip being able to stop time, Vados simply corrected the notion that time skip just stops time, it does a lot more, with one consequence being that time stops from his perspective when in his dimension
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My problem with this idea is that this dimension simply didn’t exist in U6vU7, because, according to Hit himself, he’s never needed more than basic Time Skip to win fights and thus never cultivated the power beyond that, and only started doing so BECAUSE he fought Goku. (Meaning this mechanic simply couldn’t have existed in that Tournament.)
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This, in addition to the hit dimension in the rematch, is recognized as a new time skip ability By hit and goku
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Funny how the only in-universe explanations of Time-Skip,—like "時間を飛んでいるのです" ("time" + indicates an area traversed + to jump; to leap; to spring; to bound; to hop; "leap through time"), as per the words of Vados, an Angel (i.e., time travel experts)—are completely ignored in favor of tertiary canon webpage promotional material.
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What it means?
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There are definitely inconsistencies with the technique tbh, but when vados explained his abilities, she asked Champa why he thought it was called timeskip and then explained why it's called that, and this included the dimension, meaning it was always part of it, it could be that hit could only use the basic version of timeskip at first, but there was definitely a slight alteration in his his ability works
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Isn't vados the same one that explained why it was called timeskip?
Hit manipulates time as Whis noted but I don't remember when hit was stated to fly through time, when did Vados say that?
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Episode 72 (14:09).
The definition of そして ("soshite") includes "and; and then; thus; and now; and finally", but, per the words of Kanagawa University, japaneseprofessor.com, jtest4you, George Trombley of FromZero (formerly YesJapan), Hasisi of HiNative, and JLPTsensei, a simple "and" is the most common use case.
But, odds are that Hit never used the Tides of Time during the Tournament of Destroyers, if he even had the capacity.
He was strictly forbidden from killing, and the Tides of Time is the basis for Hit's sure-to-kill assassin technique: the Time Release. Plus, the Tides of Time grants complete intangibility, whereas, during the Tournament of Destroyers, Hit was forced numerous times to evade incoming attacks, and only by a hair.
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I mean, wasn’t that only against Jiren, because Jiren was able to sense and punch Hit despite the Tides of Time? Because against Dyspo, he used full on phasing.
Edit: Whoops, wrong Tournament.
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