Dragon Ball Super Anime Energy of Destruction Revision

[Orange]

Whether the proposed abilities get accepted or not, I have few question.
1) do we assume that every hakai user get the sane abilities
2)when someone does a hakai, does the person who gets effected by it, experience all said abilities simultaneously.
3) if someone survives the hakai, does he get regeneration, or resistance to only one of the abilities of hakai or all of them.

 

[DivineAura44]

Because it's not a technique, it's the energy,
Maybe?
Resistance to the types used.

 

[Axxtentacle]

Depends on how they survive the Hakai. Do they get Hakai'd and then come back afterwards, or does it just not work?

 

[Orange]

They just overpowered it, not get hurt by it at all or nullify it. And if they regenerate from it, what kinda regeneration is it?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

1) do we assume that every hakai user get the sane abilities

While I'm personally against every other God of Destruction having Corrosion Inducement and Deconstruction for feats that Beerus and Champa performed without any suggestion of Power of Destruction being used outside their aura color—which is always purple, by the way—every God of Destruction getting Existence Erasure, Void Manipulation, and the energy-erasing Aura is all sound, since those are all stated to be done using the Power of Destruction.

2)when someone does a hakai, does the person who gets effected by it, experience all said abilities simultaneously.

No. The Hakai is just Existence Erasure.

3) if someone survives the hakai, does he get regeneration, or resistance to only one of the abilities of hakai or all of them.

Resistance to Existence Erasure. If they are erased but then regenerate, then they have Mid-Godly Regeneration.

 

[Axxtentacle]

They just overpowered it, not get hurt by it at all or nullify it. And if they regenerate from it, what kinda regeneration is it?

Resistance.

Regenerating from complete body and soul destruction. Aka, what, Mid-Godly?

 

[Orange]

Resistance.

Regenerating from complete

While I'm personally against every other God of Destruction having Corrosion Inducement and Deconstruction for feats that Beerus and Champa performed without any suggestion of Power of Destruction being used outside their aura color—which is always purple, by the way—every God of Destruction getting Existence Erasure, Void Manipulation, and the energy-erasing Aura is all sound, since those are all stated to be done using the Power of Destruction.

No. The Hakai is just Existence Erasure.

Resistance to Existence Erasure. If they are erased but then regenerate, then they have Mid-Godly Regeneration.

Why they only get existence erasure resis and not the other abilities, hakai does it all

 

[Nullflowerblush]

do we give them resistance to aura?

 

[Vietthai96]

I'm back, but have a little time before work again, so just left a piece of my mind, i'm fine with either Deconstruction or Corrosive Inducement, we have only 1 feat after all. Aside from that, did anymore ability got rejected, if not then we conclude this and process to edit the profile. Personally i want to done this fast cause a big cosmology thread out there. Also the Xeno Goku Abilities thread need to be done

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

do we give them resistance to aura?

We currently do, yes.

 

[Antvasima]

This can probably be applied, yes, but the edits would need to be very carefully and properly applied by members who know what they are doing in that regard.

If somebody writes a list of the EXACT titles for ALL of the pages that need to be unlocked, my automated script can unlock them for you.

Anyway...

 

[Vietthai96]

Alright Do you guys have anything more to say, i don't want to rush thing or people will think i'm being unfair and trying to make this through so DBS will have more hax, but this CRT have been dragging for too long. We should conclude this

 

[CR_Catinho]

People think this is a hakai CRT when it's not .
This is about energy of destruction as a whole which has many applications such as BOTH deconstruction and EE ( which is hakai ) the OP wasn't arguing that it's the hakai technique that does both , it's just the most advanced application of the energy of destruction

Anyway @Vietthai96 can you make the list that ant requested ? I'm not currently at home

 

[DivineAura44]

I don't think anyone would mind this waiting one more day. Unless they would. I just don't see any other way those abilities could do that, that's why nobody has really argued too much.

 

[Antvasima]

There is no stress, yes. It is better to handle this revision properly than hastily.

 

[Vietthai96]

Anyway @Vietthai96 can you make the list that ant requested ? I'm not currently at home

Hmmm, i could make but still waiting for people to agree, i can't make it if people continuing to disagree

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.

 

[Vietthai96]

Okay. No problem.

Hmmm i think we wait for 1 more day, if no one have anymore imput we settle this thing.

And for people who want to comment, i'm not trying to be a jerk, but no more dragging, unnecessary long question to make the thread longer than it should be, trying to have simple, solid answer

 

[VinnyXD]

Whether the proposed abilities get accepted or not, I have few question.
1) do we assume that every hakai user get the sane abilities
2)when someone does a hakai, does the person who gets effected by it, experience all said abilities simultaneously.
3) if someone survives the hakai, does he get regeneration, or resistance to only one of the abilities of hakai or all of them.

1. I would say yes because I believe we currently do that with GODs abilities when it comes to Hakai. And I don't think it's been mentioned in the anime that any GOD is better than the other when it comes to using Destruction energy.
2. I would say no but but depends on the user.
3. He would get Resistance

 

[Orange]

1. I would say yes because I believe we currently do that with GODs abilities when it comes to Hakai. And I don't think it's been mentioned in the anime that any GOD is better than the other when it comes to using Destruction energy.
2. I would say no but but depends on the user.
3. He would get Resistance

For 2) I mean if an experienced user from it hit you with the energy of destruction like beerus, wouldn't you get resistance to all those sub abilities, because I am not sure if the energy or destruction cause all the other side effects simultaneously or not

 

[VinnyXD]

For 2) I mean if an experienced user from it hit you with the energy of destruction like beerus, wouldn't you get resistance to all those sub abilities, because I am not sure if the energy or destruction cause all the other side effects simultaneously or not

Beerus has show just about all these (he's also the only GOD we use lol). Some of the effects have been done just by he's aura tho. So I'm not sure here. I believe tho someone like the Angels should get Resistance to all.

 

[Orange]

I see, so he has all of the abilities and if someone got hit by it and survived he gets a res to all of them

 

[CR_Catinho]

Hmmm i think we wait for 1 more day, if no one have anymore imput we settle this thing.

And for people who want to comment, i'm not trying to be a jerk, but no more dragging, unnecessary long question to make the thread longer than it should be, trying to have simple, solid answer

Fine by me

 

[VinnyXD]

Wrong thread

 

[CR_Catinho]

Wrong thread my guy

 

[Rez]

I didn't read the whole thing but also add the Chou Goku in the list of characters who will be affected by this

 

[Rez]

Some people seems to be in disagreement with matter destruction So here is beerus explaining it

 

[Vietthai96]

I didn't read the whole thing but also add the Chou Goku in the list of characters who will be affected by this

We can't cause currently manga doesn't established the whole Hakai Energy thing, right now only anime does this

 

[Rez]

Ok for some reason the link above isn't working properly so here is anotherHere

 

[Rez]

We can't cause currently manga doesn't established the whole Hakai Energy thing, right now only anime does this

Oh

 

[Vietthai96]

Also Matter Destruction is including in EE effect, so if manga char get EE they doesn't need Matter Destruction

 

[AKM sama]

I don't know what has been accepted and rejected here, so a summary would be nice.

Although, talking about the first video linked in the OP, we have no proof that the energy coming out of Beerus and Champa is energy of destruction. It could just be their normal energy which is also more likely because we don't see the same effects as hakai energy has on objects and stuff. There are no sparkles and it doesn't erase anything, only turns them to dust which could easily be the result of their power.

 

[Vietthai96]

I don't know what has been accepted and rejected here, so a summary would be nice.

Although, talking about the first video linked in the OP, we have no proof that the energy coming out of Beerus and Champa is energy of destruction. It could just be their normal energy which is also more likely because we don't see the same effects as hakai energy has on objects and stuff. There are no sparkles and it doesn't erase anything, only turns them to dust which could easily be the result of their power.

It the same purple aura , also it not like each time they use energy of destruction there should be purple spark, only when they EE something or someone purple spark appear as an after-effect

Alright i will outline what happen so far:
Accepted Abilities:

• Deconstruction (although Nullflowerbush think that feat should be Corrosion Inducement)
• Spatial Manipulation (God900 think it should be limited spatial manip, some want to list it as non-combat applicable)
• Void Manipulation
• Non-Physical Interaction
• EE (well this is obvious but i still list it here

Rejected Abilities:

• Transmutation
• Power Nullification (this thing is very tricky, half agree, half disagree)

Affected Characters:

• All GoDs and GoD Mode Toppo will get all of Power of Destruction abilities and Resistance to it
• Pre-Top Goku, SSBE Vegeta, Golden Frieza will get resistance to all of Power of Destruction abilities except Spatial Manip
• Angels and GP get Possibly/Likely cause Angels taught GoDs and GP is father of angel race (one or two person disagree with this, and GP case is special because he already have EE, Non-Physical Interaction, Void and Spatial Manip, the only thing left he doesn't have is Deconstruction)

 

[Nullflowerblush]

It the same purple aura

I don't know if you've noticed this or not, but Beerus and Champa's generic aura is purple.

 

[Vietthai96]

I don't know if you've noticed this or not, but Beerus and Champa's generic aura is purple.

All GoDs aura is purple, and also GoD Mode Toppo

 

[Nullflowerblush]

And, is the assumption here that their auras are always Energy of Destruction-based?
If that's the case, Battle of Gods Goku would have Resistance too.

 

[VinnyXD]

And, is the assumption here that their auras are always Energy of Destruction-based?
If that's the case, Battle of Gods Goku would have Resistance too.

That was actually brought up on one of the threads where it was mention that GODs should have resistance for fighting each other

 

[Vietthai96]

And, is the assumption here that their auras are always Energy of Destruction-based?
If that's the case, Battle of Gods Goku would have Resistance too.

No, it not like they can't use that just as normal ki, beside we already know what is Hakai Energy through Toppo, so what Beerus did in BoG is not debunk the aura/energy

 

[AKM sama]

It the same purple aura , also it not like each time they use energy of destruction there should be purple spark, only when they EE something or someone purple spark appear as an after-effect

Purple is their base aura. Unless it is explicitly evidenced that it is in fact energy of destruction, we cannot assume that. It just looks like things got turned to ash as a result of their massive energies, that's all.

• Deconstruction (although Nullflowerbush think that feat should be Corrosion Inducement)
• Spatial Manipulation (God900 think it should be limited spatial manip, some want to list it as non-combat applicable)

Can I ask what the reasons for these points are? I am sorry, I didn't read the entire thread, so I will be thankful if you can state them again.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Deconstruction came from Beerus and Champa's mental battle, where their auras caused the floor beneath them to "rust" and crumple once Goku put his foot down, although this is more akin to Corrosion Inducement, as I pointed out. Aside of that, there is Beerus reducing an egg to dust. I objected to either of these being Power of Destruction feats.

And, Space Manipulation comes from Toppo's Hakai against Frieza exploding and altering the color of the World of Void.