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Dimensional travelSorry if this is a derail but wouldn't Champa and Vados jumping from the Living Realm to The Kaioshin Realm be a Infinite Speed feat?
dimensional travel, it is not even speed in the first placeSorry if this is a derail but wouldn't Champa and Vados jumping from the Living Realm to The Kaioshin Realm be a Infinite Speed feat?
Exactly, I think you can do a CRT to upgrade manga characters to 2-C, everyone who scales with 3-A will be affected to 2-CEnough about speed, that's for another thread this is for a scaling chain, literally everyone is 2-C via base goku and vegeta also being 2-C
This CRT already upgrades them....Exactly, I think you can do a CRT to upgrade manga characters to 2-C, everyone who scales with 3-A will be affected to 2-C
yes, everyone scales to one feat now, we need that for clarity's sakeSo what's needed is a scaling chain right?
so it's too goodThis CRT already upgrades them....
yeah, but how many times is, say, jiren above the BoG feats in comparisson to, say, Hit? that is why we need a blogthis is very simple, all 3-A's become 2-C's in the manga.
This is correct.yeah, but how many times is, say, jiren above the BoG feats in comparisson to, say, Hit? that is why we need a blog
Why don't you blog?yeah, but how many times is, say, jiren above the BoG feats in comparisson to, say, Hit? that is why we need a blog
i do not have enough knowledge on the manga scaling to do soWhy don't you blog?
oh broi do not have enough knowledge on the manga scaling to do so
Are you going to blog too?Okay I am gonna be doing the scaling chain for Manga Goku and Anime Goku for the following sagas:
Both Manga Goku and Anime Goku are similar in stats, except Anime Goku got that after fight with Beerus when he absorbed the SSG into his base form as CSS which Manga Goku didn't after he absorbed the SSG into his base form. Anime Goku > Manga Goku.
- God of Destruction Beerus Saga (Chapters 1-4)
Both Manga Goku and Anime Goku used SSB against Golden Frieza during their fight so there is nothing different going on between the two Gokus. Anime Goku >= Manga Goku.
- Golden Frieza Saga (DBZ Movie 15 + That promo manga)
Unlike Manga Goku, Anime Goku took the fight one step further against Hit by going SSBKK which Manga Goku didn't do. Anime Goku >> Manga Goku.
- Universe 6 Saga (Chapters 5-13)
I believe Manga Goku for once has an edge against Anime Goku during this saga, and the reason given is that Manga Goku went PSSB against Fused Zamasu whereas Anime Goku remained the same. PSSB to SSB is the equivalent of CSS to SS, therefore PSSB > SSBKK. Anime Goku > Manga Goku.
- "Future" Trunks Saga (Chapters 14-26)
Manga Goku once again had the edge over Anime Goku due to going PSSBKK which Anime Goku doesn't have, but other than that they both wield the same PUI that they used against Jiren, but because of PSSBKK, Manga Goku has the edge. Anime Goku < Manga Goku.
- Universe Survival Saga (Chapters 27-42)
Same event for both Manga Goku and Anime Goku, so they once again tie up on the scaling. Anime Goku =< Manga Goku.
- Broly Saga (DBS Movie 1)
Anime Goku doesn't exist for this saga, so by default Manga Goku has the edge but not only that but prop to Manga Goku for being able to transform into PUI at will which Anime Goku can't do. Anime Goku << Manga Goku.
- Galactic Patrol Prisoner Saga (Chapters 42-67)
Manga Goku unlocked a new transformation called TUI so by default he has the edge over Anime Goku who has yet to appear in this saga. Anime Goku <<< Manga Goku.
- Granolah the Survivor Saga (Chapters 67-87)
I am going to be ignoring this for now since the saga for the manga hasn't been concluded, but assuming Manga Goku's role is the same as Anime Goku's role, so I guess a tie over here. Anime Goku =<< Manga Goku.
- SUPER HERO Saga (Chapters 88-Present)
In conclusion here is the final result;
Anime Goku =<< Manga Goku, Manga Goku is three times stronger than Anime Goku right now.
Note:
SSG = Super Saiyan God
CSS = Chou Super Saiyan
SSB = Super Saiyan Blue
SSBKK = Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken
PSSB = Perfected Super Saiyan Blue
SS = Super Saiyan
PSSBKK = Perfected Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken
PUI = Perfected Ultra Instinct
TUI = True Ultra Instinct
anime goku scale to the GoD in the anime, who scale to 2 macrocosms aka 6 universes, so he is stronger than manga goku by the universal survival sagaOkay I am gonna be doing the scaling chain for Manga Goku and Anime Goku for the following sagas:
Both Manga Goku and Anime Goku are similar in stats, except Anime Goku got that after fight with Beerus when he absorbed the SSG into his base form as CSS which Manga Goku didn't after he absorbed the SSG into his base form. Anime Goku > Manga Goku.
- God of Destruction Beerus Saga (Chapters 1-4)
Both Manga Goku and Anime Goku used SSB against Golden Frieza during their fight so there is nothing different going on between the two Gokus. Anime Goku >= Manga Goku.
- Golden Frieza Saga (DBZ Movie 15 + That promo manga)
Unlike Manga Goku, Anime Goku took the fight one step further against Hit by going SSBKK which Manga Goku didn't do. Anime Goku >> Manga Goku.
- Universe 6 Saga (Chapters 5-13)
I believe Manga Goku for once has an edge against Anime Goku during this saga, and the reason given is that Manga Goku went PSSB against Fused Zamasu whereas Anime Goku remained the same. PSSB to SSB is the equivalent of CSS to SS, therefore PSSB > SSBKK. Anime Goku > Manga Goku.
- "Future" Trunks Saga (Chapters 14-26)
Manga Goku once again had the edge over Anime Goku due to going PSSBKK which Anime Goku doesn't have, but other than that they both wield the same PUI that they used against Jiren, but because of PSSBKK, Manga Goku has the edge. Anime Goku < Manga Goku.
- Universe Survival Saga (Chapters 27-42)
Same event for both Manga Goku and Anime Goku, so they once again tie up on the scaling. Anime Goku =< Manga Goku.
- Broly Saga (DBS Movie 1)
Anime Goku doesn't exist for this saga, so by default Manga Goku has the edge but not only that but prop to Manga Goku for being able to transform into PUI at will which Anime Goku can't do. Anime Goku << Manga Goku.
- Galactic Patrol Prisoner Saga (Chapters 42-67)
Manga Goku unlocked a new transformation called TUI so by default he has the edge over Anime Goku who has yet to appear in this saga. Anime Goku <<< Manga Goku.
- Granolah the Survivor Saga (Chapters 67-87)
I am going to be ignoring this for now since the saga for the manga hasn't been concluded, but assuming Manga Goku's role is the same as Anime Goku's role, so I guess a tie over here. Anime Goku =<< Manga Goku.
- SUPER HERO Saga (Chapters 88-Present)
In conclusion here is the final result;
Anime Goku =<< Manga Goku, Manga Goku is three times stronger than Anime Goku right now.
Note:
SSG = Super Saiyan God
CSS = Chou Super Saiyan
SSB = Super Saiyan Blue
SSBKK = Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken
PSSB = Perfected Super Saiyan Blue
SS = Super Saiyan
PSSBKK = Perfected Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken
PUI = Perfected Ultra Instinct
TUI = True Ultra Instinct
bro this is wrong, anime goku scales to 6U 2-C while the manga only scales to 3U 2-C.
Are you going to blog too?
anime goku scale to the GoD in the anime, who scale to 2 macrocosms aka 6 universes, so he is stronger than manga goku by the universal survival saga
I am basing off my information through cross scaling, so it isn't meant to be accurate.Anime and manga xters can't cross scale
Although downplaying the GoDs cause they don't show environmental damage once still irks me when we had Toppo completely warp the WoV with a casual hakai
Thank you very muchI'm currently attempting to make a scaling blog for the manga but it will take awhile
I mean during BOG-Whis training wouldn’t it be 3 universes=BOG Goku<Base Goku (using the power of ssjg into base)<Final Form Frieza<=Base Goku and Vegeta<Blueku and Bluegeta<Golden Frieza
- God of Destruction Beerus Saga (Chapters 1-4)
SSG Goku = Baseline
- Golden Frieza Saga (DBZ Movie 15 + That promo manga)
(Trained with Whis for a few months)
Final Form Frieza =< SBG Goku and Vegeta <<<< SSJB Goku and Vegeta < Golden Frieza
- Universe 6 Saga (Chapters 5-13)
(Trained with Whis post Frieza and had 3 years HTC training)
SBG/Base Goku and Vegeta = Cabba < Final Form Frost < SSJ Cabba < Mageta =< MSSJ Goku and Vegeta <<< SSJB Vegeta (Post Cabba Fight) < SSJG Goku < Hit (No Killing Techniques) < SSJB Goku
"Future" Trunks Saga (Chapters 14-26)
(The arc starts with Goku and Vegeta training so not sure how strong they would be prior)
Base Trunks < Base Goku < Future Zamas << SSJ3 Goku (initial power or possibly holding back) =< SSJ2 Trunks (Max Power) < SSJ2 Vegeta (Probably Trained with Trunks making him higher than Go) << SSJB Vegeta =< SSJ Black (Post Zenkai) <<< SSJ Rose Goku Black < SSJB Goku and Vegeta (rematch) << Gamma Burst Flash SSJB Vegeta =< CSSJB Goku =< Fusion Zamasu =< Base Vegito <<<< SSJB Vegito
I hope this helps in some way I only went up to the black arc because scaling beyond this point isn’t as clear to me you can obviously improve it and make it fit all together and stuff
Magetta would actually be far superior to SSJ Vegeta / Goku
- SBG/Base Goku and Vegeta = Cabba < Final Form Frost < SSJ Cabba < Mageta =< MSSJ Goku and Vegeta <<< SSJB Vegeta (Post Cabba Fight) < SSJG Goku < Hit (No Killing Techniques) < SSJB Goku
Mind telling us which ones?
Here is a better website for better scansOk so far I've just finished the Resurrection F to the Universe 6 saga, and here's a rough draft
Resurrection F:
Goku and Vegeta at this point have learned to use God ki without transforming into a Super Saiyan God, making them Universal in base form
Universe 6 saga:
- Final Form Frieza is weaker but somewhat comparable to Saiyan Beyond God / base form Vegeta or Goku
- Golden Frieza could contend with Super Saiyan Blue Goku, and SSJB Vegeta should be comparable to Goku
NOTE: Hit only stomped Vegeta because he was only at 1/10th the power of a Super Saiyan Blue. If Vegeta was in better condition he would have defeated Hit via SSJ Blue. Goku in Super Saiyan Blue shattered Hit's time skip and could have easily beaten him.
- Botamo could fight against an overfed Goku, although he was noticably weaker and slower than "normal" base Goku, but durable enough to survive all of his attacks.
- First Form Frost could slightly contend with base Goku, Second Form Frost overpowered base Goku, and Final Form Frost could barely contend with Super Saiyan Goku with the aid of his poison
- Piccolo could put up a good fight against Final Form Frost but was ultimately weaker
- Magetta was too strong for Super Saiyan Vegeta and easily canceled out his attacks with magma spit
- Base form Cabba could pressure and fight against base form Vegeta, in Super Saiyan he could negate an attack from Super Saiyan Vegeta (although Vegeta was likely holding back)
- A restrained holding back Hit easily defeated SSJB Vegeta at 1/10th strength and overpowered base form Goku. After getting serious he matched Super Saiyan Goku. After he stopped holding back and showed his true strength, he completely stopped Super Saiyan God Goku within the time skip
So nobody but Vegeta and Goku scale to their Super Saiyan Blue forms during this arc
Hmm yeah I'm gonna switch to that sitemangasee Dragon Ball Super