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The majority already agree with this. Should the upgrades take place?The Everlasting said:@Assalt
Yes, I meant spite. Sorry if I sounded rude with that.
And I have still yet to see a legitimate reason why this is inconsistent.
That isn't even true. We can easily get timeframes in manga. In Dragon Ball proper, we can get a timeframe for Piccolo's moon beam based on falling rocks.Akreious said:Actually, if we take Manga as still 100% more canon then all of our arguments are moot since there isn't any "Timeframe" to examine.
If the characters are demonstrably not moving at infinite speed, they shouldn't have infinite speed. How is this bad logic?The Everlasting said:Seriously, 90% of the argent against Infinite speed is the characters not actually moving at demonstrably infinite speed. This is just stupid.
Because that'd downgrade 90% of ALL infinite speed characters on this site. You're saying most infinite-speed characters SHOULDN'T BE. That's the logic being applied.Matthew Schroeder said:If the characters are demonstrably not moving at infinite speed, they shouldn't have infinite speed. How is this bad logic?The Everlasting said:Seriously, 90% of the argent against Infinite speed is the characters not actually moving at demonstrably infinite speed. This is just stupid.
And the scans of such is... Where?Akreious said:Dragon Ball Heroes is basically Dragon Ball Xenoverse Extended. Heroes isn't canon to Xenoverse but Xenoverse is canon to Heroes, if that makes any sense.
Edit: Which doesn't change any of our ratings since the focus is on Heroes, but still.
A. But why though?Matthew Schroeder said:@Ever.
A. But Cinematic Timing for Infinite Speed would require a frozen background, by sheer basic logic.
B. This is part of the reason the standards will be reworked.
Exactly! Exactly this!Bluetrekking said:Downgrading the speeds of characters because "muh fiction does not depicts them a certain way" is overly strict and mostly comes from people overthinking things, and this would eventually restrict Infinite speeds to characters that display extremely specific showings of velocity that aren't found in many fictional verses.
Strongly agreed.The real cal howard said:Guys, we're all better than this. As someone who has acted like this before, I can tell it's not worth it. We'll just get mad at each other, spite each other, and lose credibility and trust in future threads. It's simply Dragon Ball. And not even canon Dragon Ball.
Akreious said:What kind of argument is this, exactly?Bluetrekking said:Downgrading the speeds of characters because "muh fiction does not depicts them a certain way" is overly strict and mostly comes from people overthinking things, and this would eventually restrict Infinite speeds to characters that display extremely specific showings of velocity that aren't found in many fictional verses.
"Our standards shouldn't change because that would mean less people would have Infinite Speed".
Like, why is this an argument? It sounds like you have pity for the verses, or simply don't want characters to have lower speeds.