Yeah no, the ground never fragmented in the first place that's an anime-only thing we're given like 40 shots of the ground which is perfectly intact in the manga, the aftermath in the anime shows that the ground is intact too. Gyutaro's 8-B calc assumes that 7 inches of the ground in a 126.37 meter radius was split into fragments which is evidently wrong.
that's a none factor?
none factor again, and i already said why above, the art consistency is lack luster and attack marks literally disappear in the same god damn page, your position requires for the damage done to just disappear
i don't know about the calc, but the ground was literally getting fragmented to little peices anyone with eyes can see it happening, if you can't slow the vid down
you would kinda need evidence for that, the end result was the same, the anime really only showed the process
The manga does not show the ground erupting and fragmenting in any way shape or form as Gyutaro's slashes initially rose up like the anime does. This is not an inconsistency on Gotouge's part when Gotouge never showed the ground cracking at all.
Some scratches on the ground likely from debris aren't the same as the ground being split into fragments.
The calc assumes that all of the ground in a 126 meter radius was cracked down by 7 inches some ground in the vicinity of Uzui and Tanjiro being cracked does not substantiate that assumption especially when the anime shows that the ground elsewhere was solid and not turned into literal pebbles.i don't know about the calc, but the ground was literally getting fragmented to little peices anyone with eyes can see it happening, if you can't slow the vid down
edit: here is a random shot i took
i don't even know how anyone even tought the houses could be destroyed with the ground staying perfectly intact but you learn something new everyday i guess?
all the pillars are miraculously healed right after, you're catching on straws, i proved that the art is as inconsistent as it gets, using it as an argument is simply unreliable, even from a common sens prespective the houses being all destroyed but the grounf staying prefectly intact doesn't even make sens, the ground isn't immune to deformations and damage yet that what it seems like
which makes zero sens, because the slashes don't just phase trough the ground as i've shown you, you're still arguing in the sens that the backround is inconsistent therefore the damage done to it was a myth, if anything the slashes literally come from below the ground
The manga panel of Gyutaro's slashes shows the slashes rising dozens of meters off the ground and already destroying houses with the ground being unaffected, the anime shows the ground cracking as soon as the slashes get fired and before they start destroying any houses. That's 2 different showings of the same scene, the manga takes precedent over the anime.
I'm not sure how this is relevant in any way because Gotouge never drew the damn ground cracking.
Gyutaro's slashes never came off the ground, they came off his body then rose into the air in the manga.
...literal semantics, that's what you'r arguing, the only "different" showing visible is the buildings started to get destroyed in the manga before the blood blades started coming of the ground (which is arguibly just a change of prespective since the manga provides a bird's POV while the anime focuses on gyutaro's body from the ground)
the anime did, and that's important why?
how many times do i have to quote this
the anime, showed, the god damn process, the manga just skipped it, use that as a reference
what are they tho?
Gyutaro's slashes had already been fired and started destroying things with no depiction of the ground being fragmented.
The anime is inconsistent with itself when it goes back to adapting manga scenes because the ground cracking is an anime-only addition.
The scene of Gyutaro's slashes cracking the ground is literally the same scene as this.
because that part was skipped, cool i guess?
an addition that actually shows the process of how the district was destroyed that was wholly skipped in the mang, as i said, like right above, even with literal common sens the buildings getting destroyed but the ground staying perfectly intact is bullshit the ground isn't immune to damage, and it goes bacl to inconsistent backround showings
..no it isn't?
and i was never even trying to, what i was proving, is the ground cracking and getting fragmented is literal ******* common sens, which appearently you've failed to understand?
So we gonna ignore a major feat for the verse? Just because the anime gave more depth on the same feat that was shortened in the manga? Sounds oddd + making everyone scale from gyutaros DC feat is much better than scaling to rengoku's durability BEFORE he became a hashira
Then in that case as an example we can use Part 1 Dio's anime feat with cutting the clouds with his eye laser...since its very close to the manga's fight, and didn't change much at all.
ok....then do it?
so there was a change with the end result, nice, that explains why
Yes, there is enough staff agreements at this point.
these two, i believe.
Demon Slayer: Kyojuro Rengoku tanks an explosion
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Kimetsu no Yaiba - Wooden Dragons
not to be too much of a silly billy, but I thought you said don't use anything from you pre-2022?
This is a flurry of attacks, like how Sukuna's DE sends out a lot of slashes across and area. For AP we don't care about how many attacks you can shoot out a second like we would for a video game with DPS, we want to know how much each of those strikes does individually. The number of times it hits something per second is part of the speed. There are some attacks in fiction that do impart the full thing all at once fundamentally and then deal the damage afterwards or at once, however Gyutaro's blast of slashes (plural) is more akin to multiple swings at once, like Sukuna shooting multiple slashes off at the same time.
Even the opposing viewpoint...
well, that's nice we all agree it is multiple emissions.
We also do not know how much the demon's neck is good for on a UTS. Why did you bring it up? We've established Gyutaro doesn't have a UES, emits his Blood Demon Art and does not inherently scale to the end result.
If it isn't a UES then it does not scale, there is no proof of it being a UES so there for it does not scale... If you have proof of it being a UES I encourage you to provide them.
It is an explosion we see something resembling TNT. I do believe that needs to be considered, we should try and get it recalced if we get a chance.
What sort of questions about the latter one? (Because I don't know if he generates the wood dragons or uses existing plants to make them).
i was arguing said multiple emmissions destrory the ground and not phase trough it, not sure what your point is here?
....once again, i was arguing that the ground is physcally being destroyed, not sure what the inverse square law has anything to do with this?
by definition then gyutaro's feat counts as AP because it was a single skill that unleashed those blood blades, so he scales to the destruction that they caused
...that has nothing to do with the point i was arguing in the post you quoted, and trough the entire fight i didn't see anything that suggests the blood blades were several orders of magnitudes stronger than than gyutaro since tengen was dealing with them and was also physically contending with gyutaro without the latter being in a single disatvantage
...this is the demon slayer mark, what are you even addressing in that post?
..oh, this, no it's just physics, if tanjiro for example was only able to cut trough, say, 1cm^2 while putting in maximum effort, then unlocks the mark, and shears trough 100cm^2 of the same material, that would be about 100 times more force than his previous strike, and that's without even considering that the distance of applied force would be multiple times longer, so the energy needed to do that is the force x the distance of applied force, aka several orders of magnitudes worth
he appears to be (roughly) in the center of where they were all dropped, which is why i'm not sure if ISL should be used - is that enough to consider him at the epicenter or not, i'll have to ask.
the wood dragon calc supposes that, in bursting out of the ground, the dragons fragmented a volume of rock equal to their own volume
