Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Seventy96]

IH

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[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Spoiler

They really didn't factor in Fa Jin or Gearshift at all for this fight, or even Deku's fighting style and intelligence. the calcs by themselves are fine though I would've emphasised an argument being made for pro-Deku with a miniscule gap like that but fine. Both country level and FTL-FTL+. But this fight felt like it was pre-final act/part 2 War Deku which does make sense since the episodes production would've started when the second halve of the War didn't start or just started.

To be fair, I haven’t watched the episode yet but Gearshift was literally last month was it not? That’s just, way too new to even consider black boxing, considering how episode production works.

Season 9 bros, we got too cocky. We should’ve seen the signs at Fettdator, but we just brushed it off as a fluke. Then JohnWick came along, we made excuses for the odd matchup choice. Then Jason VS Michael happened with and we began to wake up. Now we are at Asta VS Deku, we should’ve known better but we coped thinking the finale would save this Season’s “flawless“ record, only for any remaining hopes to be dashed in a ki blast.

Hey I like BondWick!!!! That episode came out great despite its issues.

per ultraguy
"It's composite Goku + composite Vegeta with Potara vs Composite Goku + Composite Vegeta with Metamoran fusion"

Oh boy this will be the first time Goku is analyzed since S2. This will be a nice frame of reference for where Goku’s higher ends could land against some of his opponents down the line ngl.

 

[Ultraguy_9000]

In house

 

[Chronicplane]

To be fair, I haven’t watched the episode yet but Gearshift was literally last month was it not? That’s just, way too new to even consider black boxing, considering how episode production works.

Spoiler

Yes Gearshift came out last month so it's pretty recent, they did mention it in the episode but it was very, very downplay like much worse than the Ultra Ego form in thor vs vegeta

 

[RiloKileyFan]

I mean eh at the beginning of the year the RT, animators and IH staff will normally suggest fights and then the IH narrow those down based on what they think will perform and be well received. Then they have to get approval from those above them. We (the RT) aren't involved in final decisions. I'm pretty sure somebody just took interest in this fight after seeing the strong performance of the DBX.

im interested in how those meetings go, has there been any backlash from the higher ups when an episode doesn't do well as predicted?

 

[Epsilon_R]

Spoiler

So with the stats given it makes me think Shigaraki could actually whoop Asta's ass fr, with his numerous broken quirks, hyper regeration, reactive evolution and decay which he wouldn't be able to survive. And Asta wouldn't be able to shut him down since quirks ain't magic and he's not strong enough to end him in one shot, not an easy fight but I'd back Shigaraki under DB's calcs

Now do Shigaraki vs Lucius

 

[Tots_Real]

Hey I like BondWick!!!! That episode came out great despite its issues.

Bonds charactization was off, he's to snarky instead of swave which isn't helped that they used a Daniel Craig model.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Gearshift got far more explanation than I thought in analysis itself. It was mostly ignored in verdict tho lul

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Ultraguy_9000]

im interested in how those meetings go, has there been any backlash from the higher ups when an episode doesn't do well as predicted?

I mean nobody on that level has any involvement in outcomes tbh.

Edit: we're not involved with any of Ben's bosses is what i'm saying.

 

[SuperStar]

Spoiler

Ironic how they wanked Asta way more than Deku, but I still liked the fight.

 

[Tipper17]

Season 9 bros, we got too cocky. We should’ve seen the signs at Fettdator, but we just brushed it off as a fluke. Then JohnWick came along, we made excuses for the odd matchup choice. Then Jason VS Michael happened with and we began to wake up. Now we are at Asta VS Deku, we should’ve known better but we coped thinking the finale would save this Season’s “flawless“ record, only for any remaining hopes to be dashed in a ki blast.

BobaPredator was just okay
Average at worse but nothing beyond decent

BondWick was nice after the rough start

Haven't watched Asta vs Deku yet

I already express my thoughts on JvM

 

[SuperStar]

Spoiler: Deku Vs. Asta

So one of Deku's cons was that he couldn't safely use max power, but they brought up the panel where Deku says he can compete with All Might without hurting himself. Weird how they gave him gear shift but didn't showcase any of his abilities with it.

 

[Tipper17]

we're not involved with any of Ben's bosses is what i'm saying.

So they have to approve on the MU as well

 

[Tipper17]

Spoiler: Deku Vs. Asta

So one of Deku's cons was that he couldn't safely use max power, but they brought up the panel where Deku says he can compete with All Might without hurting himself. Weird how they gave him gear shift but didn't showcase any of his abilities with it.

Apperently he did in the fight according to one of the reseachers

 

[TMaakkonen]

On a positive note, this season we got 16 new IP debuts, best out of all seasons after S1+S2.

Good job.

 

[Chronicplane]

Spoiler: Deku Vs. Asta

So one of Deku's cons was that he couldn't safely use max power, but they brought up the panel where Deku says he can compete with All Might without hurting himself. Weird how they gave him gear shift but didn't showcase any of his abilities with it.

Would become outdated in like a few months regardless lol. But yes Deku can use his upper echelons of OFA with no recoil at this point.

 

[Tots_Real]

Honestly I would have perfered Goku Vs Vegita as a match.

 

[SuperStar]

Apperently he did in the fight according to one of the reseachers

Spoiler

I must be blind then because all I saw was Deku spamming Detroit smash

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Alright so I’m gonna cope post for a bit, maybe they could be saving Omnimon for Xeno Gogeta

This matchup will be including Xeno stuff tho. Omnimon v Gogeta isn’t off the table yet tho

 

[Ninten65]

Honestly they should have just waited for black clover and mha to end, they both are in their end stages rn, it would only take about 2-3 years for this matchup to have been truly complete

 

[Tipper17]

Spoiler

I must be blind then because all I saw was Deku spamming Detroit smash

He used it on one of the building butt I'll have to check to be sure

 

[TMaakkonen]

Spoiler

I must be blind then because all I saw was Deku spamming Detroit smash

Now now.

He spammed tentacles too

 

[Tipper17]

Man the wait period gonna be painful

 

[Chronicplane]

Spoiler

So if you're not for Gogeta vs Vegito does waiting for DB to come back start now lol

 

[Tots_Real]

Since next match isn't a debate here's a question, Goku or Vegeta? Who wins?

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Since next match isn't a debate here's a question, Goku or Vegeta? Who wins?

Vegeta exists to jobb who do you think?

 

[TMaakkonen]

Since next match isn't a debate here's a question, Goku or Vegeta? Who wins?

Something something 3-0 something something

 

[Tots_Real]

Vegeta exists to jobb who do you think?

I mean he beat Goku in their last fight.

 

[Quantu]

Since next match isn't a debate here's a question, Goku or Vegeta? Who wins?

Current Goku is stronger than Current Vegeta

 

[Epiccheev]

Spoiler

So Dragonball vs Dragonball.

Wonder there is any chance if they actually do Marvel vs Marvel or DC vs DC then

Spoiler

They should do us a Solid and replace Wiz and Boomstick for Bulma and Chichi so the entire episode is purely Dragon Ball

 

[Sero]

Alright so I’m gonna cope post for a bit, maybe they could be saving Omnimon for Xeno Gogeta

This is a composite Gogeta with Heroes stuff, so I doubt there gonna use that version.
But Ultra did say that there is always a possibilty that they'll bring Gogeta back

 

[Tipper17]

I want to say right now

How did anyone expect Kyle vs Simon to be finale material

 

[Tots_Real]

Both characters can just nullify the others fusion lol.

 

[Chronicplane]

Since next match isn't a debate here's a question, Goku or Vegeta? Who wins?

 

[TMaakkonen]

I want to say right now

How did anyone expect Kyle vs Simon to be finale material

• Unofficial fandom hype king
• Finales are big and they are stronk.... and GL is big
• Will of the drill hype

 

[Tots_Real]

 

[Tots_Real]

Honestly the more I think about it the more I think Goku vs Vegeta could be a cool match.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

This matchup will be including Xeno stuff tho. Omnimon v Gogeta isn’t off the table yet tho

Didn't they say this is composite Gogeta and Vegito? Wouldn't Xeno be part of that?

Damn, there goes my cope

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

I feel so empty, tired, resentful. I legitimately haven’t felt this dejectedly salty about an episode since Raven VS Twilight. I can’t believe a silly internet show is making me feel this way, I’m not as emotionally mature as I thought. Why this season, why the finale if they HAD to do it? My head hurts…