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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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TMaakkonen said:
Is S2 really hard carried by its best, or could it be that its worst eps are actually not as bad when compared to worst of later seasons? How many bad eps does S2 have?
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If we’re talking strictly fight animations.
Ivy vs Orchid, Fulgore vs Sektor, Beast vs Goliath, and Vader vs Doom are all pretty bad for their own reasons. Analysis is probably where a lot of people’s gripes with this season come from, especially Gaara vs Toph and Yang vs Tifa.

To me though, it just seems like some really rotten apples spoiling an otherwise fantastic bunch, cause a lot of the sprite and 3D fights have plenty of their own merits.

And frankly, Season 7 is what everybody thinks Season 2 is. A few bangers out of an otherwise mid to bad batch of episodes.
 
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Mostly talking fight animations, yeah.

They already admitted that S1 didnt start as real research, it slowly became serious once they realized how many people actually cared about it.

But does this make it fair to mellow out against early DB research? Is it fine for old eps to get better overtime, simple because "even with bad info they its mostly due to being done earlier, we can be generous". Hell, S7 & technically S8 data are probably outdated as well.

And further more, which S1-4 eps are "technically stats are really bad, but the general idea and logic for the winner makes sense"? How generous should we be to old DB research, and should fun analysis and fun fights be far more important than bad research? To which answer probably might be kinda.

DB as entertainment vs being accurate in research can be conflicting.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Mostly talking fight animations, yeah.

They already admitted that S1 didnt start as real research, it slowly became serious once they realized how many people actually cared about it.

But does this make it fair to mellow out against early DB research? Is it fine for old eps to get better overtime, simple because "even with bad info they its mostly due to being done earlier, we can be generous". Hell, S7 & technically S8 data are probably outdated as well.

And further more, which S1-4 eps are "technically stats are really bad, but the general idea and logic for the winner makes sense"? How generous should we be to old DB research, and should fun analysis and fun fights be far more important than bad research? To which answer probably might be kinda.

DB as entertainment vs being accurate in research can be conflicting.
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Personally, it's never really mattered to me if the research is accurate, I've always regarded DB as the shallow pool of versus debating, something to get your feet wet and used to the idea of it.

It's sort of like how science class for kids don't really explain the technical details behind something, they present it in a way that's technically wrong but simple enough for children to understand before they get old enough to understand the real explanation.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Is S2 really hard carried by its best, or could it be that its worst eps are actually not as bad when compared to worst of later seasons? How many bad eps does S2 have?
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Fight animation wise?
Grey brought up good examples on the sprite animations side being ass
Batman vs Captain America was shit
Luigi vs Tails is meh
Gaara vs Toph be ass
MegaMan vs Astro Boy,Guts vs Nightmare,Shao Kahn vs Bison and Sol vs Ragna were Decent
Ryu vs Scorpion was good
Ryu Hayabusa vs Strider decent too
Kirby vs Buu, Knuckles vs Donkey Kong, Hercules vs Dan and He-Man vs Lion-O were the best of the season in terms of Sprite fights
So overall quality was decent on it's end

3D side it's damn solid for the most part
Despite suffering a bit in age and some parts being stiff most of em hold up well

In terms of lows well there's a reason why peeps latched on to episodes like Goku vs Superman 2,Tifa vs Yang and Gaara vs Toph especially how Death Battle handled em
 
TMaakkonen said:
But does this make it fair to mellow out against early DB research? Is it fine for old eps to get better overtime, simple because "even with bad info they its mostly due to being done earlier, we can be generous". Hell, S7 & technically S8 data are probably outdated as well
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Well folks do have to understand Vs is never quite static and alot of shit change

S1 I give leeway and a bit of S2 in a sense of comparing how they handle things to now

But even giving leeway it doesn't completely excuse the asinine reasonings and such back then
TMaakkonen said:
And further more, which S1-4 eps are "technically stats are really bad, but the general idea and logic for the winner makes sense"? How generous should we be to old DB research, and should fun analysis and fun fights be far more important than bad research? To which answer probably might be
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I can tolerate a fight being wrong as long the fight slaps or be decent at least

Vs will never have peeps agree on everything

Death Battle I see nowadays as pretty decent entertainment
 
Tipper17 said:
Ah S7
how can i put this way
mjf-aew.gif

yeah im not gonna sugercoat it
when it was good it was good and when it was bad oof
point of any season is to make sure there's enough good to outweigh the bad and sadly S7 pros weren't strong enough to ignore the shit we got in it

for the Good/Decent(Hulk vs Broly,Obi Wan vs Kakashi,Goro vs Machamp,Static vs Miles,Cable vs Booster,Flash vs Sonic (despite some of it wasted potential) Red hood vs Winter Soldier,Leonardo vs Jason, Sabre vs Jon and Danny vs Jake IMO

the rest were either Average,utter shit or me just not caring at all for it

S7
and back in old era S3

S7 mainly because despite having many episodes half of them were spent of Capeshit and some of those Capeshit MU were ZZZZ

S7 should've been wat S9 be and introduce tons of new franchises instead only a few were introduced and we had the least used Vidya reps in a season
it baffles me how they didn't realize that were going balls deep in Capeshit until it was too late
it thanks to S7 folks developed PTSD anytime an episode features a Capeshit MU they may hate the annoyance and complaints but guess what
when you do dumbshit it always come back to bite u


S3 was also disappointing because when you came off from the shows suppose peak season and start off hot with Dante vs Bayonetta u think "oh boy we are getting another great season" man u be surprise how ass the season was

Hulk vs Doomsday, Ratchet and Clank vs Jak an Dexter and Dante vs Bayo are the only episodes that reach Great
while only like two or maybe three episodes were decent with the rest being meh to outright ass

Mewtwo vs Shadow and Bowser vs Ganondorf had two characters(Shadow and Bowser) get treated like utter shit and said episodes were among the worst of the shows history

doesn't help the season ending off in one of the worst finales that was Deadpool vs Pinkie Pie
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Bruh, didn't Beerus vs Galaxia come out in that season too? Kinda surprised that episode isn't in your good/decent roundup.
 
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That's a neat and surprisingly nostalgic one.

But god forsake this MU not just is Primal and Princess Mononoke super obscure to modern ACGN fans, Fang (Primal) and Spear (Primal) stomps over Moro and San (Princess Mononoke) so hard - the surprisingly there speed advantage of San and Moro barely matters.

But the animation will actually be cool. Real cool. Some pure human and beast melee combat.
 
greymerlion2 said:
Alright, I wanna see something.

If you could make an entire 16-episode season out of matchups Yates has made commissioned tracks for, what would your lineup be?
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Episode 1: Megatron vs Freiza (Season Opener)
Episode 2: Star-Lord vs Shepard
Episode 3: Eren vs Lelouch
Episode 4. Robotboy vs Jenny
Episode 5. Ridley vs Vilgax
Episode 6. Medusa vs Orochimaru
Episode 7. Tsunayoshi Sawada vs Ikki Minami
Episode 8. Yusuke vs Yoh (Mid Season Finale)
Episode 9: Ed Edd n Eddy vs The Animaniacs
Episode 10: Guts vs Dimitri
Episode 11: Hisoka vs Doflamingo
Episode 12: Roxas vs Kirito
Episode 13: Clare vs Saber
Episode 14: Voldemort vs Saruman
Episode 15: Kira vs Adachi
Episode 16: Simon vs Kyle (Final)
 
greymerlion2 said:
Alright, I wanna see something.

If you could make an entire 16-episode season out of matchups Yates has made commissioned tracks for, what would your lineup be?
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I asked the question so I might as well answer too. Hell, I'll even include the specific animation styles for each.

1: Hiccup vs Claude (Season Opener) (3D)
2: Yamcha vs Sayaka (2D)
3: Solidus Snake vs King Bradley (3D)
4: Kira vs Adachi (2D)
5: Osmosis Jones vs White Blood Cell (Hand-Drawn)
6: Sans vs Ness (2D)
7: Jason Voorhees vs Michael Myers (Live-Action)
8: Bill Cipher vs Discord (Mid-Season Finale) (Mix of Styles like Saitama vs Popeye)
9: Bowser vs Eggman (2D)
10: Dunban vs Baiken (3D)
11: Teddie vs Monokuma (2D)
12: Kiryu Kazuma vs Wei Shen (3D)
13: Tenya Iida vs A-Train (2D)
14: Handsome Jack vs General Ironwood (3D)
15: Sonic vs Rainbow Dash (2D)
16: Kyle vs Simon (Mix of Styles like Saitama vs Popeye)
 
Tipper17 said:
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Define 'worst MU'?
Because I can call any unrelated two characters 'worst MU', and call it a day. In the same way I've called P4 'the worst game I've played to completion', a distinction I'll make because I can call any amount of shovelware objectively worse if I were looking to pick a low-hanging fruit.
 
I guess at the end of the day, fights are only thing that truly matter cause a bad analysis & verdict can be salvaged by a great fight. Technically this is still a show that claims it does research, so I still criticize it, even thou I can be generous on occasion.

Oh, and is that still ******** on Ridley vs Vilgax?
 
fandom_0ホルスファルコン将軍0 said:
And I need to give her a career-ending pregnancy.

Imma keep it 100 real talk I'm finna give her some kids bruh I ain't even gonna lie to ya I ain't never wanted to bend a bitch over and dump multiple loads in a chick so bad in my life man I don't care what nobody think I'm tired of holding my tongue **** it
I deadass plan to save and screenshot all the best Zatanna images when the episode comes out of youtube so I can stare at those succulent hips and delicious ass smile I'm down apocalyptic rn
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Congrats(?) on getting a shoutout from Nem.
 
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